Re: Dishonest Science

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"BeiYin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Rich Shewmaker said:

--Rich --> Does anyone else reading this comprehend the article as a
condemnation of science?

Quoting this article doesn't mean that there is a condemnation. It
points out that it is necessary to be realistic and be critical, not
putting science on a pedestal so that it becomes an untouchable
authority.

Science is ABOUT being "realistic and critical"!

Science and scientists are used and misused from people
interested, for power games or materialistic purposes. Just the fact
that science is mostly materialistic in its purpose and thinking makes
it a tool for materialistic goals. This by itself could be a reason
for condemnation...
BeiYin

Science is a method of discovery of the material world. That is a purpose in and of itself, and a worthy one. As for "power games" and "materialistic purposes," science is science. To the extent that it advances human knowledge of the universe, it is good. Criticism of the uses to which that knowledge is put is for the philosophers and theologians. To condemn misused science is like condemning a hammer because it was used as a weapon.

--Rich

BeiYin said:

Rich Shewmaker said:

--Rich --> Does anyone else reading this comprehend the article as a
condemnation of science?

Quoting this article doesn't mean that there is a condemnation. It
points out that it is necessary to be realistic and be critical, not
putting science on a pedestal so that it becomes an untouchable
authority. Science and scientists are used and misused from people
interested, for power games or materialistic purposes. Just the fact
that science is mostly materialistic in its purpose and thinking makes
it a tool for materialistic goals. This by itself could be a reason
for condemnation...
BeiYin

BeiYin...SOme common sense here...Ritalin is still used and is being
used
incorrectly in my estimation. Theis so-called "Deficit disorder" is
another
way of escaping responsibility in raising children with RULES and
some
"consequences" for being a rebel! B-0b1

In article <[email hidden]>,

Robert McCarty said:

BeiYin...SOme common sense here...Ritalin is still used and is
being used incorrectly in my estimation. Theis so-called "Deficit
disorder" is another way of escaping responsibility in raising
children with RULES and some "consequences" for being a rebel! B-0b1

Your "estimation" is based on ignorance, just like the rest of your
claims on any topic thus far.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Dishonest Science
From: Robert McCarty [email hidden]
Date: 9/18/2003 10:14 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

BeiYin said:

Rich Shewmaker said:

--Rich --> Does anyone else reading this comprehend the article as a
condemnation of science?

Quoting this article doesn't mean that there is a condemnation. It
points out that it is necessary to be realistic and be critical, not
putting science on a pedestal so that it becomes an untouchable
authority. Science and scientists are used and misused from people
interested, for power games or materialistic purposes. Just the fact
that science is mostly materialistic in its purpose and thinking makes
it a tool for materialistic goals. This by itself could be a reason
for condemnation...
BeiYin

BeiYin...SOme common sense here...Ritalin is still used and is being
used
incorrectly in my estimation. Theis so-called "Deficit disorder" is
another
way of escaping responsibility in raising children with RULES and
some
"consequences" for being a rebel! B-0b1

You got that right!! What did parents use instead of drugs??

DISCIPLINE!! RESPONSIBILITY!! CONSEQUENCES!! WORK!!

And that may INCLUDE a swift kick on the bottom if needed. ALL done with love,
and none of this, if you spank me, I'll call the cops!!

Jan

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Dishonest Science
From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 9/18/2003 11:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>,

Robert McCarty said:

BeiYin...SOme common sense here...Ritalin is still used and is
being used incorrectly in my estimation. Theis so-called "Deficit
disorder" is another way of escaping responsibility in raising
children with RULES and some "consequences" for being a rebel! B-0b1

Your "estimation" is based on ignorance, just like the rest of your
claims on any topic thus far.

Enter Satan.

Jan

In said:

Quoted message said:

From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 9/18/2003 11:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Your "estimation" is based on ignorance, just like the rest of your
claims on any topic thus far.

Enter Satan.

There you have it, people: disagreeing with Jan over
anything is pure evil.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

D. C. Sessions said:

In said:

Quoted message said:

From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 9/18/2003 11:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Your "estimation" is based on ignorance, just like the rest of your
claims on any topic thus far.

Enter Satan.

There you have it, people: disagreeing with Jan over
anything is pure evil.

Wow! Has she referred to me as Satan before? Am I starring in this
role? Given her amazing hatred for, e.g., Peter Bowditch, I figured
he'd be a shoo-in for the postion.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Dishonest Science
From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 9/18/2003 8:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>,

D. C. Sessions said:

In said:

>From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
>Date: 9/18/2003 11:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

>Your "estimation" is based on ignorance, just like the rest of your
>claims on any topic thus far.

Enter Satan.

There you have it, people: disagreeing with Jan over
anything is pure evil.

What you have is DC not paying attention in his eagerness to slam Jan. David
wasn't talking to me, therefore DC's saying David was disagreeing is par for
the course.

And of course being the good ole boy and girl club, David didn't notice.

Quoted message said:

Wow! Has she referred to me as Satan before?

Nope.

Quoted message said:

Am I starring in this
role? Given her amazing hatred for, e.g., Peter Bowditch, I figured
he'd be a shoo-in for the postion.

There ya go. Another lie. I don't hate Peter, I do hate his lying.

I am also tired of your one liners of how everyone who disagrees with you is
stoopid.

See there, you are guilty of what DC falsely accused me of.

Give them enough rope,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Jan

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"Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

There ya go. Another lie. I don't hate Peter, I do hate his lying.

Jan

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(Jan) said:

DISCIPLINE!! RESPONSIBILITY!! CONSEQUENCES!! WORK!!

Jawohl, mein Führer.

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