It's light (for its price range), straight bars, and with eight usable gears it has more gears than a 1970s 10 speed which actually 10 - about 3 gears which were duplicates or not usable due to chain crossover. Iain C
How in the world does the EBC justify not fitting mudguards as standard?
Not sporty and trendy: they don't want to put people off, and people who register comfort and laundry minimisation more than fashion and weightweenyism can retrofit them.
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Peter Headland <[email hidden]> wrote: : How in the world does the EBC justify not fitting mudguards as : standard?
It's a courier bike. Why would you want them?
Their traditional hybrids do come with mudguards as standard (which is also sensible)
Arthur
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Because it pisses it down here and Edinburgh has its own special form of cutting paste^h road grime which can destroy any substance known to man. Courier's spend all day, in all conditions riding on the road. I find it hard to imagine a group of people with greater need of guards. Interestingly enough, the majority of them ride hybrids (Of the home-bodged variety) fitted with mudguards.
Jon Senior <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote: : Arthur Clune wrote: :> It's a courier bike. Why would you want them?
: Because it pisses it down here and Edinburgh has its own special form of
It was a retoricial question really. I used to live in Edinburgh (and used 'guards). But those bikes aren't just sold in Edinburgh and there are good reasons to not have mudguards when you are throwing the bike around all the time.
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Jon Senior <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote: : Arthur Clune wrote: :> It's a courier bike. Why would you want them?
: Because it pisses it down here and Edinburgh has its own special : form of
It was a retoricial question really. I used to live in Edinburgh (and used 'guards). But those bikes aren't just sold in Edinburgh and there are good reasons to not have mudguards when you are throwing the bike around all the time.
I grew up mostly in Edinburgh and have cycled in Edinburgh in all weathers and conditions, and I've never had mudguards (apart from those six inch things which were briefly fashionable in the seventies which were of no earthly use) on any bike I've ridden there.
But I agree that for a commuting bike in Edinburgh there would be some point to them!
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Jon Senior <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote: : Arthur Clune wrote: :> It's a courier bike. Why would you want them?
: Because it pisses it down here and Edinburgh has its own special form of
It was a retoricial question really. I used to live in Edinburgh (and used 'guards). But those bikes aren't just sold in Edinburgh and there are good reasons to not have mudguards when you are throwing the bike around all the time.
And it was a joking response, but it has to be said that a courier (Or anyone who has to use their bike in any conditions for long periods) would be a little strange to not use guards. The feeling of muddy water trickling down the spine and into your shorts is not pleasant even when you know that in five minutes you'll be home and in the shower. My fixer has front guards front and rear. The shorter rear one means that I can still push it around vertically on the rear wheel without fouling anything, but it keeps me dry and clean.
