Re: Damages Over Brain Surgery Delay

(Jan) said:

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Note how the negligence involved failing to do an X-ray. Not failing to do
muscle testing. Not failure to use a Synchrometer. Not failure to examine
the iris. Not failure to CHECK THE TEETH!

And your reason for posting this??

Jan Drew is advertizing quackery. He tries to belittle persons who
critizise the mafia. Again and again, he does it. Here again, as you
can see.

Jan Drew is part of the naturopath mafia and lures people into buying
quackery and sharlatanism.

More about Jan Drew and his methods of operation you can find in the
FAQ about Jan Drew, which is published in this news-group.

Aribert Deckers
--
Schwerer Pfusch Arzneimittelprüfung

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_amp.htm

(Jan) said:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2773203.stm

Damages over brain surgery delay

Morley Benstead suffered as a result of the delay

A man discharged from hospital without an X-ray after his skull was
fractured in an attack, has won £1.78m damages. Morley Benstead was
hurt after trying to break up a fight in Torbay in May 1998.

Note how the negligence involved failing to do an X-ray. Not failing to do
muscle testing. Not failure to use a Synchrometer. Not failure to examine
the iris. Not failure to CHECK THE TEETH!

And your reason for posting this??

And your reason for posting the original article??

Tsu

--
To doubt everything or to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both
dispense with the necessity of reflection.
- Jules Henri Poincaré

Seems the quackery is supported by the Doctors as well dumbo.

It is interesting to read the responses to recent postings on vitamins.
Dr Kerryn Phelps is a former President of The Australian Medical
Association.
http://domino.ama.com.au/AMAWeb/about.nsf/0/aeef1123a8f357cd4a2568e1000df561?OpenDocument
Dr Phelps's message is contained in the acrobat download at the end of this
site. It was also published in every major newspaper in Australia last
weekend.
http://www.metagenics.com.au/

Dr Phelps's advises all Australians that "it is important that we understand
the potential benefits of nutritional supplements, potential side-effects,
or possible interactions with your prescription drugs."

She also points out that "Complementary medicines and therapies that are of
high quality and are known to work, should not be dragged down by the recent
scandal. there are now literally thousands of scientific studies supporting
the use of nutritional supplements such as multivitamins, folic acid, iron,
zinc, magnesium, probiotics and a vast range of herbal preparations in
helping to prevent disease and recover from illness."

Rod.

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(Jan) said:

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Note how the negligence involved failing to do an X-ray. Not failing to

do

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muscle testing. Not failure to use a Synchrometer. Not failure to

examine

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the iris. Not failure to CHECK THE TEETH!

And your reason for posting this??

Jan Drew is advertizing quackery. He tries to belittle persons who
critizise the mafia. Again and again, he does it. Here again, as you
can see.

Jan Drew is part of the naturopath mafia and lures people into buying
quackery and sharlatanism.

More about Jan Drew and his methods of operation you can find in the
FAQ about Jan Drew, which is published in this news-group.

Aribert Deckers
--
Schwerer Pfusch Arzneimittelprüfung

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_amp.htm

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The question is WHY??

Indeed. The whole thread seems to have nothing to do with
alternative medicine, so why WAS it posted?

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Rod said:

Seems the quackery is supported by the Doctors as well dumbo.

The naturopath mafia needs a disguise. Once they are hanged, life for the
patients will be much safer again.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Jan) said:

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Subject: Re: Damages Over Brain Surgery Delay
From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
Date: 8/22/2003 9:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2773203.stm

Damages over brain surgery delay

Morley Benstead suffered as a result of the delay

A man discharged from hospital without an X-ray after his skull was
fractured in an attack, has won £1.78m damages. Morley Benstead was
hurt after trying to break up a fight in Torbay in May 1998.

Note how the negligence involved failing to do an X-ray. Not failing to do
muscle testing. Not failure to use a Synchrometer. Not failure to examine
the iris. Not failure to CHECK THE TEETH!

And your reason for posting this??

And your reason for posting the article to begin with???

[Snip]
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Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
|
|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"

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Subject: Re: Damages Over Brain Surgery Delay
From: Eric Bohlman [email hidden]
Date: 8/22/2003 9:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2773203.stm

Damages over brain surgery delay

Morley Benstead suffered as a result of the delay

A man discharged from hospital without an X-ray after his skull was
fractured in an attack, has won £1.78m damages. Morley Benstead was
hurt after trying to break up a fight in Torbay in May 1998.

Note how the negligence involved failing to do an X-ray. Not failing to do
muscle testing. Not failure to use a Synchrometer. Not failure to examine
the iris. Not failure to CHECK THE TEETH!

And your reason for posting this??

To point out the obvious, which you still missed.

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His head was hit by a brick in the attack, but the 51-year-old was

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discharged on the same day from Torbay Hospital.

Two days later, the hospital X-rayed his skull and spotted a fracture,
the High Court in London heard.

Further delay

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He was transferred to Derriford Hospital in Plymouth.

But there was a further delay, and surgery was not carried out until
the next day, 27 May.

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It was surgery that was delayed. Not a liver cleanse. Not zapping. Not
administration of colloidal silver. Not a glass of his own urine. Not
supplements.

And your reason for posting this??

To point out the obvious, which you still missed.

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As a result of the delays to his treatment, Mr Benstead, of Paignton,
Devon, suffers from epilepsy, memory loss, and lack of coordination in
his limbs.

He has also suffered 60% loss of sight and physical scarring.

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He is unable to drive, will never work again, and has to rely on his
elderly parents, carers and therapists.

Profound regret

His counsel, Robin Oppenheim, told Mr Justice Davis that, had an early

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X-ray been carried out, the fracture would have been detected and
there would have been earlier referral for neurosurgery.

But Mr Benstead developed a brain abscess due to dirt getting into the

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fracture and causing an infection.

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An investigation at Torbay Hospital led to the South Devon Healthcare
NHS Trust admitting an error in Mr Benstead's treatment.

Plymouth Hospitals NHS Trust also admitted that there were errors in
the treatment it provided.

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Margaret Bowron, QC, said that both trusts had profound regret that
their treatment had made Mr Benstead's injury worse.

The judge echoed Miss Bowron's admiration for the way Mr Benstead and
his family had coped.

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Looks like someone who suffered because he didn't receive the
*conventional*, *science-based* treatment that he should have.

That's correct.

The question is WHY??

Because doctors are human, and do make errors. However, it would be
interesting to find out what histroy the patient provided and, whether
the fracture was palpable or not.

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Subject: Re: Damages Over Brain Surgery Delay
From: Tsu Dho Nimh [email hidden]
Date: 8/23/2003 3:37 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

(Jan) said:

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[email hidden] (Jan) wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2773203.stm
>
> Damages over brain surgery delay
>
> Morley Benstead suffered as a result of the delay
>
> A man discharged from hospital without an X-ray after his skull was
> fractured in an attack, has won £1.78m damages. Morley Benstead was
> hurt after trying to break up a fight in Torbay in May 1998.

Note how the negligence involved failing to do an X-ray. Not failing to do

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

muscle testing. Not failure to use a Synchrometer. Not failure to examine

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the iris. Not failure to CHECK THE TEETH!

And your reason for posting this??

And your reason for posting the original article??

Tsu

To show the many needless mistakes and deaths. To try and get our piece meal
system at best changed. This is my concern, how about you?

Jan

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil,
but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
Albert Einstein

In article <[email hidden]>,

Rod said:

Seems the quackery is supported by the Doctors as well dumbo.

"Dumbo" is more appropriately applied to those idiots like Rod who
post the same thing ten times in a row.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

Quoted message said:

Subject: Re: Damages Over Brain Surgery Delay
From: [email hidden] (David Wright)
Date: 8/23/2003 11:50 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

In article <[email hidden]>,

Rod said:

Seems the quackery is supported by the Doctors as well dumbo.

"Dumbo" is more appropriately applied to those idiots like Rod who
post the same thing ten times in a row

Interesting.

Nothing said about the others who posted more than 1o times in a row.

Selective.

Jan

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil,
but because of the people who don't do anything about it."
Albert Einstein