Re: Cuba offers help

Gregory Morrow said:

JimLane said:

And here's more: the UN has offed aid and the US has accepted. The
story seems to point back to the fact that the US had been taking a
"no
thanks" stance with previous countries offers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050904/ts_nm/aid_un_dc

NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt, very
venal, and very evil organisation...

Interesting you should say that as since its inception the UN has been
controlled by the security council which was, in turn, controlled by the
'superpowers' including the USA.
Pot - kettle - eh?

Ken Davey said:

Gregory Morrow said:

JimLane said:

And here's more: the UN has offed aid and the US has accepted. The
story seems to point back to the fact that the US had been taking a
"no
thanks" stance with previous countries offers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050904/ts_nm/aid_un_dc

NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt, very
venal, and very evil organisation...

Interesting you should say that as since its inception the UN has been
controlled by the security council which was, in turn, controlled by the
'superpowers' including the USA.
Pot - kettle - eh?

Hardly, sport...

--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow said:

JimLane said:

And here's more: the UN has offed aid and the US has accepted. The story
seems to point back to the fact that the US had been taking a "no
thanks" stance with previous countries offers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050904/ts_nm/aid_un_dc

NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt, very venal,
and very evil organisation...

Yes, ever since they refused to kowtow to the US, a lot of people have
been saying that.

jim

JimLane said:

Gregory Morrow said:

JimLane said:

And here's more: the UN has offed aid and the US has accepted. The story
seems to point back to the fact that the US had been taking a "no
thanks" stance with previous countries offers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050904/ts_nm/aid_un_dc

NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt, very

venal,

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and very evil organisation...

Yes, ever since they refused to kowtow to the US, a lot of people have
been saying that.

Lemme tell ya, since the US is the single biggest donor to the UN they
*should* "kowtow" to the US. Someone is subsidising my nice lifestyle,
you'd better bet that I would pretty much do *anything* to keep them in my
good graces...it's how the Real World operates, "Show me the money,
honey...".

It's a certified FACT that the UN is corrupt, reams have been written on it.
Of course since the majority of it's member states are corrupt Third World
[censored] holes (in collusion with corrupt First World "do - gooders" like
France, etc.), whaddya expect...

The US should cut all funding for the UN, then the whole kit 'n caboodle of
the smarmy designer - suited slobbering pukes can decamp to Paris or Geneva
or wherever. We DON'T need that rabid scurrilous lot in this country and
their loss would be a net economic *gain* for the city of New York...and the
citizens of this country. Plus which just think what prime condos the UN
building would make...

--
Best
Greg

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NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt, very venal,
and very evil organisation...

And this implies that the food they might deliver is inedible, the
doctors incompetent, the money counterfeit ?
Your attitude is known as "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

Seamus said:

Quoted message said:

NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt, very

venal,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and very evil organisation...

And this implies that the food they might deliver is inedible, the
doctors incompetent, the money counterfeit ?
Your attitude is known as "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

Yet you failed to refute any single one of the points I brought up...

--
Best
Greg

"Gregory Morrow"
<[email hidden]> wrote
in news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And this implies that the food they might deliver is inedible,
the doctors incompetent, the money counterfeit ?
Your attitude is known as "cutting off your nose to spite your
face".

Yet you failed to refute any single one of the points I brought
up...

And which you did not substantiate, might I point out. They were
nothing more than innuendo.

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

Gregory Morrow said:

Seamus said:

Quoted message said:

NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt,
very venal, and very evil organisation...

And this implies that the food they might deliver is inedible, the
doctors incompetent, the money counterfeit ?
Your attitude is known as "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

Yet you failed to refute any single one of the points I brought up...

Umm.. points eh?
All the UN member states are incompetent (except the USA of course)?
- oh yah - they are also a "rabid scurrilous lot?
All the member states should bow down before the almighty US buck?
France is a 'third world' country?
The UN is corrupt?
Grain of truth here but you can rest assured that any corruption present has
USA 'interests' up to its elbow in it.

All the above 'points' fail to explain why the USA should deny offered
assistance for its present disasster.

Ken.

"Ken Davey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Gregory Morrow said:

Seamus said:

> NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt,
> very venal, and very evil organisation...

And this implies that the food they might deliver is inedible, the
doctors incompetent, the money counterfeit ?
Your attitude is known as "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

Yet you failed to refute any single one of the points I brought up...

Umm.. points eh?
All the UN member states are incompetent (except the USA of course)?
- oh yah - they are also a "rabid scurrilous lot?
All the member states should bow down before the almighty US buck?
France is a 'third world' country?
The UN is corrupt?
Grain of truth here but you can rest assured that any corruption present
has USA 'interests' up to its elbow in it.

All the above 'points' fail to explain why the USA should deny offered
assistance for its present disasster.

Ken.

The UN certanly has its share of problems and is far from functioning the
way it should, but it has had many resounding successes and is at least a
start toward the kind of international cooperation we need if the human race
is to survive. The UN haters are among the most ignorant of right-wingers,
full of bigotry and and a puzzling fear of anything "foreign." I sort of
pity them because they are in a dilemma now. On the one hand they want to
criticize other countries for not offering aid to the US because they love
any opportunity to knock "them thar furriners." On the other hand they do
not want to accept any aid that is offered because it indicates that the US
might actually need help at a time like this. What a pitiful bunch.

--
Peter Aitken

Peter Aitken said:

"Ken Davey" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Gregory Morrow said:

Seamus wrote:

>> NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt,
>> very venal, and very evil organisation...
>
> And this implies that the food they might deliver is inedible, the
> doctors incompetent, the money counterfeit ?
> Your attitude is known as "cutting off your nose to spite your
> face".

Yet you failed to refute any single one of the points I brought
up...

Umm.. points eh?
All the UN member states are incompetent (except the USA of course)?
- oh yah - they are also a "rabid scurrilous lot?
All the member states should bow down before the almighty US buck?
France is a 'third world' country?
The UN is corrupt?
Grain of truth here but you can rest assured that any corruption
present has USA 'interests' up to its elbow in it.

All the above 'points' fail to explain why the USA should deny
offered assistance for its present disasster.

Ken.

The UN certanly has its share of problems and is far from functioning
the way it should, but it has had many resounding successes and is at
least a start toward the kind of international cooperation we need if
the human race is to survive. The UN haters are among the most
ignorant of right-wingers, full of bigotry and and a puzzling fear of
anything "foreign." I sort of pity them because they are in a dilemma
now. On the one hand they want to criticize other countries for not
offering aid to the US because they love any opportunity to knock
"them thar furriners." On the other hand they do not want to accept
any aid that is offered because it indicates that the US might
actually need help at a time like this. What a pitiful bunch.

What you said.
Ken.

Ken Davey said:

Gregory Morrow said:

Seamus said:

> NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt,
> very venal, and very evil organisation...

And this implies that the food they might deliver is inedible, the
doctors incompetent, the money counterfeit ?
Your attitude is known as "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

Yet you failed to refute any single one of the points I brought up...

Umm.. points eh?
All the UN member states are incompetent (except the USA of course)?

The UN is largely ineffective, their staff have an "entitlement"
mentality...

Quoted message said:

- oh yah - they are also a "rabid scurrilous lot?

Just so you know, Ken, if you know me at all that is fairly "mild" language
I am using...

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All the member states should bow down before the almighty US buck?

Exactly - or else the member states should find ANOTHER funding source. The
UN is in NYC at our "grace and favour"...and they are welcome to take their
ungrateful asses elsewhere. Let 'em earn their own keep, bet they wouldn't
last two days without all the nice perks the US provides them.

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France is a 'third world' country?

IMNSHO...heck they don't have window screens and even during heat waves they
refuse to acknowledge the necessity for air conditioning (not to mention
bathing, at ALL times of the year...). Besides which they still boast about
failed French technologies like Minitel and the Concorde...

France (the premier member of the sclerotic "Old Europe" claque) is *barely*
in the 20th century, let alone the 21st. That's why it is increasingly
irrelevant and is in the process of being eclipsed by ever more dynamic
places like Eire, Scandianvia, the UK, Czechia, Slovenia, and even tiny
Estonia...

Quoted message said:

The UN is corrupt?
Grain of truth here but you can rest assured that any corruption present

has

Quoted message said:

USA 'interests' up to its elbow in it.

Au contraire, do yer homework...it's top news frex on the BBC website at the
moment.

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All the above 'points' fail to explain why the USA should deny offered
assistance for its present disasster.

I'd say you Canadians up there should consider yourself MIGHTY lucky that
you live right next to such a big, rich, and wonderful country as the
USA...your anti - US carping comes off as petty and paints you in a most
unflattering light.

--
Best
Greg

Peter Aitken said:

The UN certanly has its share of problems and is far from functioning the
way it should, but it has had many resounding successes and is at least a
start toward the kind of international cooperation we need if the human

race

Quoted message said:

is to survive. The UN haters are among the most ignorant of right-wingers,

Are you including me in that lot? If so, how to explain my ardent hatred of
the Shrub and the GOPee Christo - Corporate agenda that he and his cronies
have laid out for this country?

--
Best
Greg

"Peter Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

On the one hand they want to
criticize other countries for not offering aid to the US because
they love any opportunity to knock "them thar furriners." On the
other hand they do not want to accept any aid that is offered
because it indicates that the US might actually need help at a
time like this. What a pitiful bunch.

What's even more galling is that they're being offered aid by
countries and leaders they have until just yesterday vilified
publicly: Cuba, Venezuela and to some extent Canada. The recent
comments by the US ambassador [[censored], shurely?] on softwood lumber
were not well received.

It must really stick in their craw that aid is offered by Cuba but
that Kiribati and Vanuatu are not taking advantage of their "deep
friendship with the US" (tm pending) to send ten or twenty
warships...oh, wait, they don't have any...

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

"Gregory Morrow"
<[email hidden]> wrote
in news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Peter Aitken said:

The UN certanly has its share of problems and is far from
functioning the way it should, but it has had many resounding
successes and is at least a start toward the kind of
international cooperation we need if the human
race is to survive. The UN haters are among the most ignorant of
right-wingers,

Are you including me in that lot? If so, how to explain my ardent
hatred of the Shrub and the GOPee Christo - Corporate agenda that
he and his cronies have laid out for this country?

You're ambivalent? :-)

--
"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

"Gregory Morrow"
<[email hidden]> wrote in
message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Peter Aitken said:

The UN certanly has its share of problems and is far from functioning the
way it should, but it has had many resounding successes and is at least a
start toward the kind of international cooperation we need if the human

race

Quoted message said:

is to survive. The UN haters are among the most ignorant of
right-wingers,

Are you including me in that lot? If so, how to explain my ardent hatred
of
the Shrub and the GOPee Christo - Corporate agenda that he and his cronies
have laid out for this country?

--
Best
Greg

Did you say that the UN was an evil and venal organization? If so then the
answer is yes. Having some ignorant and foolish opinions does not preclude
you from having others that are right on target.

--
Peter Aitken

Gregory Morrow said:

Ken Davey said:

Gregory Morrow said:

Seamus wrote:

Quoted message said:

I'd say you Canadians up there should consider yourself MIGHTY lucky
that you live right next to such a big, rich, and wonderful country
as the USA...your anti - US carping comes off as petty and paints you
in a most unflattering light.

And I say you should know that we (Canadans) refer to your 'rich and
wonderful' country as
"the retarded giant to the south".

Ken.

Ken Davey said:

Gregory Morrow said:

Ken Davey said:

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Seamus wrote:

Quoted message said:

I'd say you Canadians up there should consider yourself MIGHTY lucky
that you live right next to such a big, rich, and wonderful country
as the USA...your anti - US carping comes off as petty and paints you
in a most unflattering light.

And I say you should know that we (Canadans) refer to your 'rich and
wonderful' country as
"the retarded giant to the south".

Ken.

Ken....you really needed to put a spew alert on that post. I've got to
clean the pinapple juice off the monitor now.

Sandi

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Gregory Morrow"

Quoted message said:

Seamus said:

Quoted message said:

NO reason we should be accepting UN "aid", it's a very corrupt, very

venal,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and very evil organisation...

And this implies that the food they might deliver is inedible, the
doctors incompetent, the money counterfeit ?
Your attitude is known as "cutting off your nose to spite your face".

Yet you failed to refute any single one of the points I brought up...

In this situation, your point is irrelevant. The assistance the United
Nations has offered is real and Bush has accepted their offer of help.
Beggars can't be choosers.

SD said:

Ken Davey said:

Gregory Morrow said:

Ken Davey wrote:

> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> Seamus wrote:

Quoted message said:

I'd say you Canadians up there should consider yourself MIGHTY lucky
that you live right next to such a big, rich, and wonderful country
as the USA...your anti - US carping comes off as petty and paints
you in a most unflattering light.

And I say you should know that we (Canadans) refer to your 'rich and
wonderful' country as
"the retarded giant to the south".

Ken.

Ken....you really needed to put a spew alert on that post. I've got to
clean the pinapple juice off the monitor now.

Sandi

Sorry.
I hate it when that happens.
Specially when the pineapple is fresh off the farm, Honduran!..
Ken.