Re: Come on group, DON"T FEED THE TROLLS.

Kill them Trolls while their still under the bridge.

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... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Jim McNamara

<snip of more troll [censored]>

AHHH, I love the smell of a good ass-kicking in the morning!!!

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Mike Vandeman said:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[...]

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Jim McNamara is one of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust
me
on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most
longwinded
adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a
candle
to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.

It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike.

... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.

Here is Jim playing at being the [censored] yet once again - or is he one for
real?

Quoted message said:

Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing.

The Great Ed Dolan posts mainly to ARBR to tweak all the idiots, morons and
imbeciles who infest the group like the plague. Jim is about par for the
group, although he is into nothing but his vendettas and has become that
most pitiful of all creatures, a stalker. Very sad!

Beyond

Quoted message said:

the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Jim should never attempt wit as it is the one thing he sorely lacks. He does
best at being earnest, the importance of which never seems to escape him.
Hmm ... I think someone once wrote a play entitled "The Importance of Being
Earnest." This is required reading for Jim if you ask me.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:53:12 -0400, "Sven Hobenstein" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

<Snip of troll drivel>

Quoted message said:

... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Jim McNamara

<snip of more troll [censored]>

AHHH, I love the smell of a good ass-kicking in the morning!!!

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:16:33 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:53:12 -0400, "Sven Hobenstein" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

<Snip of troll drivel>

Quoted message said:

... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Jim McNamara

<snip of more troll [censored]>

AHHH, I love the smell of a good ass-kicking in the morning!!!

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

If we have learned only thing from Clinton's approach to managing
public lands, we have learned, when you alienate people to using
public land, they will not learn to appreciate open space, and land
conservation.

Unused land, is generally useless land.

:\

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:34:57 -0400, Tom The Great <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:16:33 GMT, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:53:12 -0400, "Sven Hobenstein" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

<Snip of troll drivel>
>
> ... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
> describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
> has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
> Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
> prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
> (particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
> his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
> of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
> audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
> the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
> differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
> Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.
>
> Jim McNamara
>
<snip of more troll [censored]>

AHHH, I love the smell of a good ass-kicking in the morning!!!

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

If we have learned only thing from Clinton's approach to managing
public lands, we have learned, when you alienate people to using
public land, they will not learn to appreciate open space, and land
conservation.

Unused land, is generally useless land.

Thanks for demonstrating mountain bikers' attitiude toward public
land: they think it belongs to them.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

"Tom The Great" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

[...] when you alienate people to using public land,
they will not learn to appreciate open space, and land
conservation.

True, -urban tendencies apply, too. Property values,
population and development pressures, sprawl, life-style
choices, value systems, etc, all play...

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Unused land, is generally useless land.

If you mean, land that heretofore is largely undeveloped,
then for some value of "useless", that's true.

But no-so-true for some fundemental values of "useless"...

If we want to have any wild land left for recreation 20
years from now, or 50, or 100, if we want the earth's
climate to remain stable, if we want it to be safe to
go out in the sun, if we want to have clean air and
water, we must understand the relationship between
civilization and wilderness better. We must recognize
that people have the power to destroy the wild world and,
in the process, ourselves.

-- Ed Salmon, rec.backcountry, '94

Jon Meinecke
net.subtle-apteryx

Edward Dolan said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:37 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

[...]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>Jim McNamara is one of the most sensitive souls God ever created. Trust
>me
>on this Mike, if Jim decides to take you on he will be the most
>longwinded
>adversary you have ever met in your life. Even Curtiss can't hold a
>candle
>to him. However, your one-liners are perfect for him.

It's a fun game!: Try to see how many pages of drivel you can force
them to write, for each of your lines. It's utterly AMAZING how many
long posts a single one-liner or good subject heading will generate! I
have even seen them continue to discuss ME, long after I have left on
a trip to some scientific conference or pleasure trip. Obviously, none
of them have a real life, outside alt.mountain-bike.

... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.

Here is Jim playing at being the [censored] yet once again - or is he one for
real?

Opinion state ad fact. Truth hurts doesn' t, Ed???

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing.

The Great Ed Dolan posts mainly to ARBR to tweak all the idiots, morons and
imbeciles who infest the group like the plague. Jim is about par for the
group, although he is into nothing but his vendettas and has become that
most pitiful of all creatures, a stalker. Very sad!

Yeah whatever ... same old nonsense and whining.

Quoted message said:

Beyond

Quoted message said:

the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Jim should never attempt wit as it is the one thing he sorely lacks. He does
best at being earnest, the importance of which never seems to escape him.
Hmm ... I think someone once wrote a play entitled "The Importance of Being
Earnest." This is required reading for Jim if you ask me.

You wouldn't know wit if it slppae up upside your hard head. Look ....
no one takes you seriously, so why bother offering your worthless
opinions? Here's a book for your reading pleasure ... How to Win
Friends and Influence People, speaking of required reading for the
HEADward the GRATE.

Jim McNamara

Quoted message said:

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Mike Vandeman said:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:53:12 -0400, "Sven Hobenstein" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

<Snip of troll drivel>

Quoted message said:

... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
(particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.

Jim McNamara

<snip of more troll [censored]>

AHHH, I love the smell of a good ass-kicking in the morning!!!

You must, because yours was just kicked. Per chance that escaped your
poor powers of perception ... brain dead.

Jim McNamara

=====

Quoted message said:

I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman said:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:53:12 -0400, "Sven Hobenstein" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

<Snip of troll drivel>
>
> ... and, just how are you and Dolan any differnent? Your description
> describes you both quite well. Ed Doaln is a sanctimonious hermit who
> has little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life.
> Usenet newsgroups (particularly ARBR) have assumed an exaggerated
> prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. Usenet newsgroups
> (particularly ARBR) have emerged as the source from which he garners
> his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his opinion
> of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet newsgroup
> audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing. Beyond
> the facade of your environmental evalengislism, you are little
> differnet than Dolan. Perhaps that is why you admire one another.
> Please send us all an invitation to your wedding.
>
> Jim McNamara
>
<snip of more troll [censored]>

AHHH, I love the smell of a good ass-kicking in the morning!!!

You must, because yours was just kicked. Per chance that escaped your
poor powers of perception ... brain dead.

Woops,

Sorry Sven. With all that snipping, I thought Mike Vandeman wrote
this. I appreciate your comments and yes they both got their butts
kicked, but the sad think is that niether are bright enough to realize
it.

Jim McNamara

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=====

Quoted message said:

I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande