Re: Clean eating

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

I like my life forces grilled with some garlic and butter. You?

In my gastronomic experiences, if you adulterate anything with
"garlic", including "life forces", all you get is garlic - I repeat
garlic, which contaminates the breath, exudes from the skin, makes the
toilet an unpleasant place to be and condemns farting from a high art
form to public disdain and humiliation!!

I was born and raised in the New York metropolitan area, in an area
populated by Jews, Irish, and Italians. Italian cooking, restaurants,
pizza joints (where they speak Italian, not Mexican, and where the flies
add spice to the calzones). I love garlic. Garlic is one one the
healthiest, most healthful, spices.

A Brit telling the Italians how to cook? Now THAT is silly.

Well, Chucky always did have problems with style and class. Leave him with
his blood pudding and fat fried foods. I am certain that anything with
flavor or taste would be objectionable to a troll brit.

JMW said:

Nobody? Never?

Exactly!! Nobody never gained *anything* from refined sugar except
perhaps weight and diabetes. What benefit does refined white sugar
provide other then a few calories? It has NO NUTRITIONAL VALUE.

Debate *that*. Come on...I *dare* you. :-)

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What is the special evil that changes a sugar from "good" to "bad" by
"refining"?

The fact that it is refined and has no nutritional value or benefit.

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You and Curt have such marvelous expertise on this
subject, I really want to hear all about it!

Well then get your head out of your [censored] and clean your ears so you
can understand us better. :-)

David Cohen said:

"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

I like my life forces grilled with some garlic and butter. You?

In my gastronomic experiences, if you adulterate anything with
"garlic", including "life forces", all you get is garlic - I repeat
garlic, which contaminates the breath, exudes from the skin, makes the
toilet an unpleasant place to be and condemns farting from a high art
form to public disdain and humiliation!!

I was born and raised in the New York metropolitan area, in an area
populated by Jews, Irish, and Italians. Italian cooking, restaurants, pizza
joints (where they speak Italian, not Mexican, and where the flies add spice
to the calzones). I love garlic. Garlic is one one the healthiest, most
healthful, spices.

A Brit telling the Italians how to cook? Now THAT is silly.

That is something of an overstatement David (you, not him - who I
miss), I suggested nothing at all that could be construed as "telling
the Italians how to cook".

What I did suggest was that "garlic" is probably the most
contemporarily overused spice, which leaves a whole host of casualties
in its wake. In 'essence' it stinks in its repercussions.

It is completely anti-social and the reek of the breath of someone who
has been over-indulging during the weekend, particularly in the gym on
a Monday morning (ugh!), is positively nauseating!!

I respect your right to eat just what you damn well please, but please
don't break wind on the elliptical machine next to mine, and expect to
escape my Monday morning withering look, twitching nostrils and
nauseous belching!!

Have a great weekend David - you know I am!! ;o)

Lee Michaels said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"Charles" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>I like my life forces grilled with some garlic and butter. You?

In my gastronomic experiences, if you adulterate anything with
"garlic", including "life forces", all you get is garlic - I repeat
garlic, which contaminates the breath, exudes from the skin, makes the
toilet an unpleasant place to be and condemns farting from a high art
form to public disdain and humiliation!!

I was born and raised in the New York metropolitan area, in an area
populated by Jews, Irish, and Italians. Italian cooking, restaurants,
pizza joints (where they speak Italian, not Mexican, and where the flies
add spice to the calzones). I love garlic. Garlic is one one the
healthiest, most healthful, spices.

A Brit telling the Italians how to cook? Now THAT is silly.

Well, Chucky always did have problems with style and class. Leave him with
his blood pudding and fat fried foods. I am certain that anything with
flavor or taste would be objectionable to a troll brit.

That is such a shame Lee, I almost thought you had given up this sort
of silliness.

Needless to say, the humorous exchanges between myself and Cohen have
gone completely over your head.

I have no quarrel with you old lad, and you are no match for me, so do
yourself a favour and bugger off!!

And don't call me "Chucky" - you know I hate it!! ;o)

Other than that Lee, do have a great weekend - I am!! ;o)

me said:

JMW said:

Nobody? Never?

Exactly!! Nobody never gained *anything* from refined sugar except
perhaps weight and diabetes. What benefit does refined white sugar
provide other then a few calories? It has NO NUTRITIONAL VALUE.

Debate *that*. Come on...I *dare* you. :-)

It provides glucose for energy and insulin release for muscle protein
synthesis. It works just fine with whey protein for timed nutrition.

Oh, wait. That's only important for those involved in strength
training and athletic endeavors. You wandered in from the porker
newsgroups, right? Never mind.
--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net

JMW said:

Oh, wait. That's only important for those involved in strength
training and athletic endeavors. You wandered in from the porker
newsgroups, right? Never mind.

Anyway, I got my answer and the *right* answer. No need for me to
stay here and take abuse from you.

Goodbye.

me said:

Debate *that*. Come on...I *dare* you. :-)

You're new here, aren't you?

me said:

JMW said:

Oh, wait. That's only important for those involved in strength
training and athletic endeavors. You wandered in from the porker
newsgroups, right? Never mind.

Anyway, I got my answer and the *right* answer. No need for me to
stay here and take abuse from you.

Goodbye.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out ...
--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net

JMW said:

And here's something interesting:

Sez you.

Frankly, I'd be bored to tears if I was one to cry easily.

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"Simple carbohydrates have one (single) or
two (double) sugars while complex carbohydrates
have three or more."

What, no (triple)? Yer slippin'.

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So "refined sugar," some folks call it sucrose,

THANK YOU, MISTER WIZARD!

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I think, is one of those "double sugar," right?
I think

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*I think* you talk too much.

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Help me out on this stuff, Curt

Well, you just can't help some people. I suspect that you're one of
those people.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote

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me said:

Debate *that*. Come on...I *dare* you. :-)

You're new here, aren't you?

His intellect and scathing debate skills ARE intimidating.

David

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(The Queen of Cans and Jars) said:

me said:

Debate *that*. Come on...I *dare* you. :-)

You're new here, aren't you?

How could you tell? 😉

--
Jim Seymour | "It is wrong always, everywhere and
WARNING: The "From:" address is a | for everyone to believe anything upon
spam trap. DON'T USE IT! Use: | insufficient evidence."
[email hidden] | - W. K. Clifford, ca. 1876

JMW said:

me said:

JMW said:

Oh, wait. That's only important for those involved in strength
training and athletic endeavors. You wandered in from the porker
newsgroups, right? Never mind.

Anyway, I got my answer and the *right* answer. No need for me to
stay here and take abuse from you.

Goodbye.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out ...

I wonder how many that would be, if we were able to count the number
of people you have driven away from here?

Have a great Sunday John - you know I will!! ;o)

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Curt James said:

JMW wrote (and wrote and wrote and wrote)

(judiciously snipped)

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please explain why sucrose (in your words,
"white death"😉 has no dietary value, and

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Feel free to cite Medline abstracts.

Medline it is. I'm sure you'll recognize these words, but fail to
understand (hey, you won't disagree with that statement, will you?) why
you'd question an anti refined sugar stance.

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From http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002469.htm

Refined sugars provide calories, but lack vitamins, minerals, and
fiber. Such simple sugars are often called "empty calories" and can
lead to weight gain. Also, many refined foods, such as white flour,
sugar, and polished rice, lack B vitamins and other important nutrients
unless they are marked "enriched." It is healthiest to obtain
carbohydrates, vitamins, and other nutrients in as natural a form as
possible -- for example, from fruit instead of table sugar.

All true, which is a far cry from "white death" and used in moderation,
sucrose will do you no harm at all.

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Refined sugar equals white death seems obvious.

Err, no, it would not.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Will Brink said:

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JMW said:

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Article Description: Dr. William Coda Martin classified refined sugar
as a poison because it has been depleted of its life forces,

Note to readers, ignore any doctor who actually uses terms like "life
forces" when talking about food. It's a tip off.

The proper medical term is "chi".

-----------
Proton Soup

"And all this peace has been deceiving,
I need some wind to get me sailing"

In article <[email hidden]>,

JMW said:

Quoted message said:

Article Description: Dr. William Coda Martin classified refined sugar
as a poison because it has been depleted of its life forces,

Note to readers, ignore any doctor who actually uses terms like "life
forces" when talking about food. It's a tip off.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

Will Brink said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

JMW said:

Quoted message said:

Article Description: Dr. William Coda Martin classified refined sugar
as a poison because it has been depleted of its life forces,

Note to readers, ignore any doctor who actually uses terms like "life
forces" when talking about food. It's a tip off.

Perhaps you would let us know on what authority, and with which
qualifications, you disparage the good doctor's findings Will.

Have a great Sunday - I am!! ;o)

Charles said:

Will Brink said:

JMW said:

>
>Article Description: Dr. William Coda Martin classified refined sugar
>as a poison because it has been depleted of its life forces,

Note to readers, ignore any doctor who actually uses terms like "life
forces" when talking about food. It's a tip off.

Perhaps you would let us know on what authority, and with which
qualifications, you disparage the good doctor's findings Will.

Should we start with the fact that his sugar screed is nearly 50 years
old, and that he died 13 years ago at the age of 92?

Of course, the fitness knowledge of John "Charles" Hudson comes from
the same era: http://www.fitnwell.net/JH%20PT%20School.jpg
--

JMW
http://www.rustyiron.net

JMW said:

Charles said:

Will Brink said:

JMW <[email hidden]> wrote:

> >
> >Article Description: Dr. William Coda Martin classified refined sugar
> >as a poison because it has been depleted of its life forces,

Note to readers, ignore any doctor who actually uses terms like "life
forces" when talking about food. It's a tip off.

Perhaps you would let us know on what authority, and with which
qualifications, you disparage the good doctor's findings Will.

Should we start with the fact that his sugar screed is nearly 50 years
old, and that he died 13 years ago at the age of 92?

I didn't know Will had published a "sugar screed", and I doubt that he
is dead, even if he does sometimes look a trifle decomposed!! ;o)

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Of course, the fitness knowledge of John "Charles" Hudson comes from
the same era: http://www.fitnwell.net/JH%20PT%20School.jpg

When you first saw that photo John Williams, which was taken very
early in my career, much to my surprise you sent a message to me via
the Group which said: "Good photograph"!!

It's one of my family's favourites also, and I'm quite proud of it; it
is a very elite branch and not many people get to qualify as a Staff
Physical Training Officer in the Royal Navy. I was the only one that
year!!

It is in fact about thirty years old, and you know that you have in
your treasured collection of various photographs of me, some which are
very much up to date, and remember John Williams, I'm only a few years
older than you!! ;o)

I think I certainly look a trifle better than this twee old chap:

www.webdesignsw.com/fitnwell (don't forget to click on the .jpeg to
get the big one) ;o)

I hope you're having a nice Sunday John - I am!! ;o)

Your chum

John "Charles" Hudson
www.fitnwell.net

Charles said:

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I like my life forces grilled with some garlic and butter. You?

In my gastronomic experiences, if you adulterate anything with
"garlic", including "life forces", all you get is garlic - I repeat
garlic, which contaminates the breath, exudes from the skin, makes the
toilet an unpleasant place to be and condemns farting from a high art
form to public disdain and humiliation!!

As a general rule of thumb, food without garlic isn't worth
eating.

--
Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

Helgi Briem said:

Charles said:

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I like my life forces grilled with some garlic and butter. You?

In my gastronomic experiences, if you adulterate anything with
"garlic", including "life forces", all you get is garlic - I repeat
garlic, which contaminates the breath, exudes from the skin, makes the
toilet an unpleasant place to be and condemns farting from a high art
form to public disdain and humiliation!!

As a general rule of thumb, food without garlic isn't worth
eating.

There's the 'hint' of garlic which can enhance a dish, or the eating
of it by the clove as if an entrée. The former is more than
acceptable, the latter a complete and utter social gaffe.

How are you Helgi my friend and has the Spring arrived in your fair
country yet?!! ;o)