Re: Chocolate

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 17:30:43 GMT, Priscilla Ballou <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ignoramus2605 said:

I happen to like chocolate. Lately, I have been eating unsweetened
chocolate (from the baking secion of the store, 2 net carbs per ounce,
no sugal alcohols etc), it does not seem to be doing any obvious
harm. Usually, 1 oz a day is what I eat, if I eat it at all. Since it
is concentrated, chocolate wise it may be equivalent to several ounces
of diluted "milk" chocolate. My question is, am I somehow "setting
myself up for failure", is there some good reason not to eat that
chocolate? One of the reasons why I eat it is that I do not get enough
sleep (due to having a certain project) and it keeps me up. Any
thoughts?

Below is the fitday.com breakdown for one ounce of unsweetened
chocolate. Looks like you're getting about four net grams of carb per
ounce, with a good amount of fiber. Plus chocolate has some chemicals
in it that are really good for you. (Specifics archived from brain.)
As long as you're not on induction and need to be spending those 4 grams
on vegies, I don't see a problem. Personally, I usually eat some dark
chocolate daily -- a few squares. The darker the chocolate the less
sugar in it and the higher the concentration of the good stuff.

Priscilla

Nutrition Facts

Amount Per 1 square (1 oz)
Calories 147.99
Calories from Fat 141.1

% Daily Value *
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Total Fat 15.68g 24%
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    Saturated Fat 9.24g 46%
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    Polyunsaturated Fat 0.499g  
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    Monounsaturated Fat 5.23g  
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Cholesterol 0mg 0%
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Sodium 3.97mg 0%
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Potassium 236.16mg 7%
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total Carbohydrate 8.02g 3%
------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Dietary Fiber 4.37g 17%
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Protein 2.92g 6%
------------------------------------------------------------------------

But see:

http://www.scharffenberger.com/nutri_info4.php

The values there are much different than the values quoted above.

--
Bob in CT

Not to mention it TASTES way better. Tastes like CHOCOLATE, by god.
Never got the attraction of "milk chocolate". Compared to dark, it just
tastes SWEET to me. Of course candy makers/bakers etc like it, because
it's CHEAP.

Dan

Priscilla Ballou said:

Personally, I usually eat some dark
chocolate daily -- a few squares. The darker the chocolate the less
sugar in it and the higher the concentration of the good stuff.

I like to add either some vanilla extract or peppermint extract to my cocoa
powder.

(I also add gray market carbless splenda, and saccharine.) (wish me luck!)

"Ignoramus2605" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 13:06:18 -0500, Dan

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Not to mention it TASTES way better. Tastes like CHOCOLATE, by god.
Never got the attraction of "milk chocolate". Compared to dark, it just
tastes SWEET to me. Of course candy makers/bakers etc like it, because
it's CHEAP.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks for saying it so well.

Compared to milk "chocolate", bakers chocolate is the real deal -- a
real chocolate for a much lower price per gram of pure chocolate, than
most chocolate bars. I do not care for sweetness any more.

i

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob M said:

But see:

http://www.scharffenberger.com/nutri_info4.php

The values there are much different than the values quoted above.

Yes, they do appear to be. They're also for 1.4 oz, not 1 oz.

I just pulled a package of Baker's unsweetened off my pantry shelf.
That says it has 4 grams carb gross less 2 grams fiber = 2 grams carb
per 1/2 square. 1 square = 1 ounce, so that's 4 grams net carb per
ounce and fits with the fitday figures I quoted upthread.

Sharffenberger may be putting something else into their unsweetened
chocolate, or their formula may be different. There are a wide variety
of chocolate varieties, and different chocolate specialty houses (like
Sharffenberger) will select specific varieties to use in their
chocolate. Possibly the chocolate they use is higher in carb than the
variety(ies) used in the Baker's product. I learned a lot about
chocolates the other day at chocosphere.com (while I was placing an
order!).

Priscilla
--
"You can't welcome someone into a body of Christ and then say only
certain rooms are open." -- dancertm in alt.religion.christian.episcopal

Cubit wrote:
:: I like to add either some vanilla extract or peppermint extract to
:: my cocoa powder.
::
:: (I also add gray market carbless splenda, and saccharine.) (wish me
:: luck!)

So exactly what is this stuff you make? As cocoa powder has lots of fiber,
this might be an interesting way to get more.

I change my recipe often. Sometimes I make a shake in about 100 ounces of
liquid. Sometimes I make a paste that is like thick cake frosting or bit
like the fudge brownies my grandmother used to make.

Typical paste version:
1 ounce coconut milk
1 ounce heavy cream
1 ounce cocoa powder
one raw egg yolk
15 grams of L-Glutamine powder
1 scoop of low carb Isopure protein powder (it comes with the scooper)
Liquid Splenda
Liquid Saccharine
10 drops of peppermint extract

I mix the powders and the liquids separately, and then combine them and mix
them manually into a very soft paste. After about an hour in the
refrigerator it hardens into a thick paste.

This is makes about 6 ounces of paste. I have between .8 ounce and 1.2
ounce of the paste per hour between about 9AM and 4 PM. It feels very
filling and seems indulgent. The whole bowl comes to around 400 calories.

Before 9AM I might have a cup of coffee and an ounce of cheese. 5 to 7PM
could be LC ice cream, salami, or whatever. The whole day can come to 1000
calories. This helps make the average about 1400 per day after dining out
on some other days.

Some folks might just not eat in preparation for a large evening dinner. If
I were eating a lot all week I would do that too. However, when I regularly
run restricted calories, I find it impossible to not eat in preparation for
a large dinner. So, the paste keeps me satisfied through the day until the
dinner. I dine out primarily for the social aspects of it. At home I
rarely eat after 7PM.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Cubit wrote:
:: I like to add either some vanilla extract or peppermint extract to
:: my cocoa powder.
::
:: (I also add gray market carbless splenda, and saccharine.) (wish me
:: luck!)

Quoted message said:

So exactly what is this stuff you make? As cocoa powder has lots of

fiber,

Quoted message said:

this might be an interesting way to get more.

Very interesting.

I do something similar, but different when running restricted (not all of
the time, though).

I make a pudding:

1 scoup Designer chocolate protein powder
7 Tbsp sour cream
Liquid splenda syrup base

That has 300 calories. I eat it as a meal, usually after the gym or evening
workout.

I also make cheese rollups using a LC tortilla.

1 LC torilla
2 slices kraft cheese.

That has 240 calories. I'll eat one of those along with a McD sausage
pattie (170 kcals) in the morning on the way to work. That brings me to 410
kcals for breakfast, plus coffee w/ 1 cream (34 kcals). Total: 434 kcals.

Lunch will be garden salad w/ 3 oz chicken breast: 264 kcals.

So by dinner I'm at about 700 kcals. On lifting nights I'll have another
cheese rollup before going to the gym. Then another after the gym along
with protein pudding.

Total: 1480 kcals.

Some days I'll skip a roll up to drop back to 1240 kcals.

I'll do 500-600 kcals worth of cardio spread over am/pm depending on time.
On weekends I typically more as I'm going out on dates and can't count that
closely. I eat a lot more veggies then, too. Sometimes I'll do a movie on
Tuesday or Thursday with a gf, so that alters things too (she likes
popcorn!).

If I know I'm going out to dinner on a given night, I just won't eat all day
prior. I'll do cardio too.

Cubit wrote:
:: I change my recipe often. Sometimes I make a shake in about 100
:: ounces of liquid. Sometimes I make a paste that is like thick cake
:: frosting or bit like the fudge brownies my grandmother used to make.
::
:: Typical paste version:
:: 1 ounce coconut milk
:: 1 ounce heavy cream
:: 1 ounce cocoa powder
:: one raw egg yolk
:: 15 grams of L-Glutamine powder
:: 1 scoop of low carb Isopure protein powder (it comes with the
:: scooper) Liquid Splenda
:: Liquid Saccharine
:: 10 drops of peppermint extract
::
:: I mix the powders and the liquids separately, and then combine them
:: and mix them manually into a very soft paste. After about an hour
:: in the refrigerator it hardens into a thick paste.
::
:: This is makes about 6 ounces of paste. I have between .8 ounce and
:: 1.2 ounce of the paste per hour between about 9AM and 4 PM. It
:: feels very filling and seems indulgent. The whole bowl comes to
:: around 400 calories.
::
:: Before 9AM I might have a cup of coffee and an ounce of cheese. 5
:: to 7PM could be LC ice cream, salami, or whatever. The whole day
:: can come to 1000 calories. This helps make the average about 1400
:: per day after dining out on some other days.
::
:: Some folks might just not eat in preparation for a large evening
:: dinner. If I were eating a lot all week I would do that too.
:: However, when I regularly run restricted calories, I find it
:: impossible to not eat in preparation for a large dinner. So, the
:: paste keeps me satisfied through the day until the dinner. I dine
:: out primarily for the social aspects of it. At home I rarely eat
:: after 7PM.
::
::
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: Cubit wrote:
::::: I like to add either some vanilla extract or peppermint extract to
::::: my cocoa powder.
:::::
::::: (I also add gray market carbless splenda, and saccharine.) (wish
::::: me luck!)
:::
::
::: So exactly what is this stuff you make? As cocoa powder has lots
::: of fiber, this might be an interesting way to get more.

Roger Zoul said:

Very interesting.

I do something similar, but different when running restricted (not

all of

Quoted message said:

the time, though).

I make a pudding:

1 scoup Designer chocolate protein powder
7 Tbsp sour cream
Liquid splenda syrup base

That has 300 calories. I eat it as a meal, usually after the gym or

evening

Quoted message said:

workout.

I also make cheese rollups using a LC tortilla.

1 LC torilla
2 slices kraft cheese.

That has 240 calories. I'll eat one of those along with a McD

sausage

Quoted message said:

pattie (170 kcals) in the morning on the way to work. That brings me

to 410

Quoted message said:

kcals for breakfast, plus coffee w/ 1 cream (34 kcals). Total: 434

kcals.

Quoted message said:

Lunch will be garden salad w/ 3 oz chicken breast: 264 kcals.

So by dinner I'm at about 700 kcals. On lifting nights I'll have

another

Quoted message said:

cheese rollup before going to the gym. Then another after the gym

along

Quoted message said:

with protein pudding.

Total: 1480 kcals.

Some days I'll skip a roll up to drop back to 1240 kcals.

I'll do 500-600 kcals worth of cardio spread over am/pm depending on

time.

Quoted message said:

On weekends I typically more as I'm going out on dates and can't

count that

Quoted message said:

closely. I eat a lot more veggies then, too. Sometimes I'll do a

movie on

Quoted message said:

Tuesday or Thursday with a gf, so that alters things too (she likes
popcorn!).

If I know I'm going out to dinner on a given night, I just won't eat

all day

Quoted message said:

prior. I'll do cardio too.

Cubit wrote:
:: I change my recipe often. Sometimes I make a shake in about 100
:: ounces of liquid. Sometimes I make a paste that is like thick

cake

Quoted message said:

:: frosting or bit like the fudge brownies my grandmother used to

make.

Quoted message said:

::
:: Typical paste version:
:: 1 ounce coconut milk
:: 1 ounce heavy cream
:: 1 ounce cocoa powder
:: one raw egg yolk
:: 15 grams of L-Glutamine powder
:: 1 scoop of low carb Isopure protein powder (it comes with the
:: scooper) Liquid Splenda
:: Liquid Saccharine
:: 10 drops of peppermint extract
::
:: I mix the powders and the liquids separately, and then combine

them

Quoted message said:

:: and mix them manually into a very soft paste. After about an hour
:: in the refrigerator it hardens into a thick paste.
::
:: This is makes about 6 ounces of paste. I have between .8 ounce

and

Quoted message said:

:: 1.2 ounce of the paste per hour between about 9AM and 4 PM. It
:: feels very filling and seems indulgent. The whole bowl comes to
:: around 400 calories.
::
:: Before 9AM I might have a cup of coffee and an ounce of cheese. 5
:: to 7PM could be LC ice cream, salami, or whatever. The whole day
:: can come to 1000 calories. This helps make the average about 1400
:: per day after dining out on some other days.
::
:: Some folks might just not eat in preparation for a large evening
:: dinner. If I were eating a lot all week I would do that too.
:: However, when I regularly run restricted calories, I find it
:: impossible to not eat in preparation for a large dinner. So, the
:: paste keeps me satisfied through the day until the dinner. I dine
:: out primarily for the social aspects of it. At home I rarely eat
:: after 7PM.
::
::
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: Cubit wrote:
::::: I like to add either some vanilla extract or peppermint extract

to

Quoted message said:

::::: my cocoa powder.
:::::
::::: (I also add gray market carbless splenda, and saccharine.)

(wish

Quoted message said:

::::: me luck!)
:::
::
::: So exactly what is this stuff you make? As cocoa powder has lots
::: of fiber, this might be an interesting way to get more.

Nice ideas!

Martha

http://www.camacdonald.com/lc/Cookbook/0804.html