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  1. Tony Raven said:

    "Nevertheless, when comparing the head injury
    rates, there is no evidence of a difference between male and
    female child cyclists. The lack of difference between male
    and female cyclists is not in any way consistent with what is
    known about helmet wearing."

    (Currently female helmet wearing rates are about double male wearing rates)

    The paper is very cautious about the reasons for this and gives a very
    balanced discussion of the possible reasons but very thought provoking.

    Interesting. Obviously, without the whole paper it's hard to comment,
    but my first thoughts on possible effects other than helmet
    non-effectiveness are:

    * relative competency of the genders - it may be non-PC, but maybe girls
    fall off more or vice-versa

    * risk-taking: I'd wager than boys do more idiotic things on their bikes
    than girls. I certainly did as a lad...

    --
    Mark.
    http://tranchant.plus.com/

  2. Mark Tranchant said:


    * risk-taking: I'd wager than boys do more idiotic things on their bikes
    than girls. I certainly did as a lad...

    If you think about that though, boys take more risks, are less likely to
    be wearing a helmet - should make the head injuries in boys even greater
    than girls, not the same.
    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  3. Tony Raven said:

    Mark Tranchant wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    * risk-taking: I'd wager than boys do more idiotic things on their
    bikes than girls. I certainly did as a lad...

    If you think about that though, boys take more risks, are less likely to
    be wearing a helmet - should make the head injuries in boys even greater
    than girls, not the same.

    Yes, but we don't have the data. It may be that girls are worse at
    riding a bike by an equal proportion, cancelling out the boys'
    stupidity. We just don't know.

    It's always tempting to look at results like this and jump to
    conclusions like "helmets don't work". That's just as bad as the default
    "helmets *must* be safer, surely" viewpoint.

    --
    Mark.
    http://tranchant.plus.com/

  4. In message <[email hidden]>, Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Mark Tranchant said:

    * risk-taking: I'd wager than boys do more idiotic things on their
    bikes than girls. I certainly did as a lad...

    If you think about that though, boys take more risks, are less likely
    to be wearing a helmet - should make the head injuries in boys even
    greater than girls, not the same.

    Asssuming:

    1 that the daft things the boys may be doing increase the risk of head
    injury

    2. That helmets reduce the head injuries
    --
    Chris French

  5. Tony Raven of said:
    Mark Tranchant said:


    * risk-taking: I'd wager than boys do more idiotic things on their bikes
    than girls. I certainly did as a lad...

    If you think about that though, boys take more risks, are less likely to
    be wearing a helmet - should make the head injuries in boys even greater
    than girls, not the same.

    Also need to factor in how much riding girls and boys do. I'd wager that on
    average boys spend a lot more time messing about on bikes than girls.
    --
    Theology is the effort to explain the unknowable in terms of the not worth knowing.
    Henry Louis Mencken
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  6. Steph Peters said:


    Also need to factor in how much riding girls and boys do. I'd wager that on
    average boys spend a lot more time messing about on bikes than girls.

    But they'd probably rather be messing about on girls ............
    --
    Michael MacClancy

  7. Michael MacClancy said:
    Steph Peters said:


    Also need to factor in how much riding girls and boys do. I'd wager
    that on average boys spend a lot more time messing about on bikes
    than girls.

    But they'd probably rather be messing about on girls ............

    or riding the village bike......

    pk

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