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Re: Best chain lube?

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  1. Curtis ??? said:

    Is the dry type with teflon better than regular oil?

    That is like asking what is the best religion, political system,
    economic system, etc. You will find vigorous proponents of various systems.

    The main point is that chains were from contamination between the moving
    parts - therefore you do not want to lubricate a dirty chain, which
    transports contamination into the chain.

    The proponents of chain saw lube (fine if one does not mind a bit of
    gunk on the outside), specialty bicycle chain lubes, motor oil, wax,
    etc. can all contribute their opinions and experiences. A search of the
    Google Groups archives will also return many threads on the subject.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

  2. ATF

  3. datakoll said:

    ATF

    Where do the firearms fit into the scheme?

  4. used brake fluid

  5. datakoll said:


    used brake fluid

    Does it work better after it has aged in my brakelines? Say, a vintage
    1990 DOT 4?

    Mark J.

  6. Crisco

  7. datakoll aka gene daniels said:

    Crisco

    Lard: <http://www.lileks.com/institute/gallery/misc/lard.html>.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    "Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
    differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
    excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter

  8. http://www.cachebeauty.com/wholsale/036954719804.main.jpg

  9. Tom Sherman said:
    datakoll aka gene daniels said:

    Crisco

    Lard: <http://www.lileks.com/institute/gallery/misc/lard.html>.


    Lanolin
    Buy it as LLoyds AD3000.

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  10. Sheepish?

    everyone knows LLoyds AD 3000 lanolin is a typo.
    by coincidents, that sequence goes to year one.

    I'm working with Buytl rubber and urethane.
    several crawl thru's revealed thin brown lines.

    wanna try jojobaaaa?

  11. forget jojobaaaa?

    http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/

  12. datakoll said:


    http://www.cachebeauty.com/wholsale/036954719804.main.jpg

    Keeps your machine running smoothly and your coif looking snappy.

    Also, it helps maintain the slippery emulsion in your chamois. High
    speed, low drag!

    Chalo

  13. Chalo said:
    datakoll said:

    http://www.cachebeauty.com/wholsale/036954719804.main.jpg

    Keeps your machine running smoothly and your coif looking snappy.

    Also, it helps maintain the slippery emulsion in your chamois. High
    speed, low drag!

    Chalo

    To make your chain shiny and manageable I recommend:
    <http://www.brylcreemusa.com/products.shtml>

    --

    Paul D Oosterhout
    I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

  14. On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:29:37 -0800 (PST), datakoll <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Sheepish?

    everyone knows LLoyds AD 3000 lanolin is a typo.
    by coincidents, that sequence goes to year one.

    What's the Typo?
    AD3000 is a product of Lloyd's Laboratories in Peterborough Ontario.

    www.lloydslaboratories.com

    Quoted message said:


    I'm working with Buytl rubber and urethane.
    several crawl thru's revealed thin brown lines.

    wanna try jojobaaaa?

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  15. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    jojoba, flax seed, lanolin, BEESWAX! diluted with lemon turpenes...

    the search goes on.

  16. On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:12:40 -0600, Tom Sherman

    may have said:
    Curtis ??? said:

    Is the dry type with teflon better than regular oil?

    That is like asking what is the best religion, political system,
    economic system, etc. You will find vigorous proponents of various systems.

    AFAIAC, the best chain lube would have these qualities:

    -- Never needs to be reapplied.
    -- Does not entrap dirt, grit, moisture, or other contaminants.
    -- Does not wipe off or wear off.
    -- Does not stink.
    -- Makes chain last forever without making noise.
    -- Has a trivially low cost.
    -- Comes with the chain.

    This product does not exist.

    Everything else is a compromise.

    Everyone has to choose their chain lube based on their own
    preferences.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  17. Werehatrack wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Everyone has to choose their chain lube based on their own
    preferences.

    Perhaps, but there are people making really bad choices and paying a lot
    for lubrication products that are either no better than the lower cost
    products or that don't do a good job of lubricating the chain.

    As several posters have pointed out, for a low-cost product that works
    well, use DuPont Multi-Use Lubricant, which is also sold industrially as
    DuPont Teflon Chain Saver. Some people have bought this at Lowe's.

    Another excellent low cost product is the motorcycle chain lubes for
    non-O ring chains, i.e. PJ1 Black Label Chain Lube which you can get at
    a motorcycle parts store.

    For soaking a chain in lubricant, chainsaw oil works well, as does plain
    SAE30 oil (not multi-weight 10W30).

    Clean your chain with kerosene or other non-water based solvent, and
    lube it with oil or one of the penetrating spray on chain lubricants.

    See "http://bicyclechain.info/" for information on cleaning and
    lubricating bicycle chains when you don't want to waste money on exotic
    lubricants and cleaning products.

  18. SMS ???• ? said:

    Werehatrack wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Everyone has to choose their chain lube based on their own
    preferences.

    Perhaps, but there are people making really bad choices and paying a lot
    for lubrication products that are either no better than the lower cost
    products or that don't do a good job of lubricating the chain.

    As several posters have pointed out, for a low-cost product that works
    well, use DuPont Multi-Use Lubricant, which is also sold industrially as
    DuPont Teflon Chain Saver. Some people have bought this at Lowe's.

    Another excellent low cost product is the motorcycle chain lubes for
    non-O ring chains, i.e. PJ1 Black Label Chain Lube which you can get at
    a motorcycle parts store.

    For soaking a chain in lubricant, chainsaw oil works well, as does plain
    SAE30 oil (not multi-weight 10W30).

    Clean your chain with kerosene or other non-water based solvent, and
    lube it with oil or one of the penetrating spray on chain lubricants.

    See "http://bicyclechain.info/" for information on cleaning and
    lubricating bicycle chains when you don't want to waste money on exotic
    lubricants and cleaning products.

    Any of those work, though several duPont engineers have told me over
    the years that they consider any use of Teflon in a fluid-based
    lubricant to be a marketing ploy, not based on anything that duPont
    knows about the substance. (This does not mean that those lubes are
    worthless; the rest of what's in them could very well be excellent,
    but just don't take the Teflon term's presence as meaning anything
    important in either direction.) The main thing is to make sure the
    chain has a lubricant applied, and that it's one suitable for the
    usage. That's a really wide range to select from, and the bill is
    filled by a lot of things.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  19. rumored J-B epoxy is leftover scraped from tanks then reliquified.
    Teflon? but tiny little teflon particles as lube devices?
    same trick as a Moly disulfide?

    Valvo synthetic trans oil is like Epic from Finish Line, decant into
    Epic bottles.

    please reuse kerosene and thinner cleaners. Pour into CHOH isopropyl
    bottles, let sit in sun. Dirt congeals at bottom.

  20. datakoll said:

    rumored J-B epoxy is leftover scraped from tanks then reliquified.
    Teflon? but tiny little teflon particles as lube devices?
    same trick as a Moly disulfide?

    Valvo synthetic trans oil is like Epic from Finish Line, decant into
    Epic bottles.

    please reuse kerosene and thinner cleaners. Pour into CHOH isopropyl
    bottles, let sit in sun. Dirt congeals at bottom.

    Just filter the used kerosene through a piece of filter paper (use a
    coffee filter).

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