Re: Beating the heat

"Olebiker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well here in south Florida, the temps are getting into the mid to

upper 80's
daily now. The temps are usually in the upper 70's by 9:00 am. With
humidity
in about the same range.

You call that hot? Reminds me of a headline from The Times of London
many years ago: "Seventy degrees again today. No relief in sight."

Our club rides here in Tallahassee start at 7:30 or 8:00 a.m. during
the summer to take advantage of cooler weather but, by the time we are
finished, it is usually well into the 90s. As other folks have
mentioned, wicking clothing like Coolmax jerseys do a good job of
helping the body cool itself. Be sure to drink long before you are
thirsty. Dehydration can cause a whole raft of problems.

[censored] Durbin

Well it's not like Arizona desert hot but still! Well this morning I went
out at 6:30 am for 1 of my 12 mile laps and I thought it was nice. I have
really just started cycling so I am still riding in a t-shirt and nylon
"work-out" pants. I know I would be more comfortable in cycling type
clothing, but I am a frugal living specialist (a.k.a. cheap [censored]). And
yeah I know all about dehydration!

Ken

I think that the humid Florida heat is at least as hard to deal with as
the dry heat we have here in southern AZ. With (only a little)
amusement I noted that yesterday as it hit 109 in Tucson the
"discomfort index" was only at 103.

And a comment about the cheapness thing. I think that "idea" of
expensive cycling specific clothing is way overblown. Yes, the initial
cost can be high but most of the expensive stuff is really well made
and lasts for a long time. So, a really comofortable state of the art
kit can be had for $200. It can last for years- so on a per ride basis
it is really quite inexpensive. Obviusly if the $200 is hard to come by
that is a real barrier. But if it only the idea of spendiing the money
that is the problem that should be overcome.

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gds said:

I think that the humid Florida heat is at least as hard to deal with as
the dry heat we have here in southern AZ. With (only a little)
amusement I noted that yesterday as it hit 109 in Tucson the
"discomfort index" was only at 103.

And a comment about the cheapness thing. I think that "idea" of
expensive cycling specific clothing is way overblown. Yes, the initial
cost can be high but most of the expensive stuff is really well made
and lasts for a long time. So, a really comofortable state of the art
kit can be had for $200. It can last for years- so on a per ride basis
it is really quite inexpensive. Obviusly if the $200 is hard to come by
that is a real barrier. But if it only the idea of spendiing the money
that is the problem that should be overcome.

There may be small differences between low-end and high-end gear, but I
think that once you get into cycling-specific shirts and shorts, you're
already at about 90% of the utility of any equipment.

I have several jerseys. the Hind one I have is superb, and cost me C$30
at a discount outlet. The RaceFace one is nice because it's much cooler
than any other jersey I own. The Louis Garneau team kit I have is
probably the warmest of the three, owing to heavier, more durable
material.

Shorts are probably more differentiated, but I suspect the difference
has everything to do with finding a comfortable chamois.

Workable kit should not cost more than $100, though by the time you add
arm warmers, leg warmers, and/or a nice jacket, it might be close to
your $200 number. But then, I wonder about the utility of warmers and
jackets in Florida. In BC? Essential. I own four different cycling
jackets to cover four jerseys.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Ryan Cousineau said:

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gds said:

I think that the humid Florida heat is at least as hard to deal

with as

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the dry heat we have here in southern AZ. With (only a little)
amusement I noted that yesterday as it hit 109 in Tucson the
"discomfort index" was only at 103.

And a comment about the cheapness thing. I think that "idea" of
expensive cycling specific clothing is way overblown. Yes, the

initial

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cost can be high but most of the expensive stuff is really well

made

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and lasts for a long time. So, a really comofortable state of the

art

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kit can be had for $200. It can last for years- so on a per ride

basis

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it is really quite inexpensive. Obviusly if the $200 is hard to

come by

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that is a real barrier. But if it only the idea of spendiing the

money

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that is the problem that should be overcome.

There may be small differences between low-end and high-end gear, but

I

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think that once you get into cycling-specific shirts and shorts,

you're

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already at about 90% of the utility of any equipment.

I have several jerseys. the Hind one I have is superb, and cost me

C$30

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at a discount outlet. The RaceFace one is nice because it's much

cooler

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than any other jersey I own. The Louis Garneau team kit I have is
probably the warmest of the three, owing to heavier, more durable
material.

Shorts are probably more differentiated, but I suspect the difference

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has everything to do with finding a comfortable chamois.

Workable kit should not cost more than $100, though by the time you

add

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arm warmers, leg warmers, and/or a nice jacket, it might be close to
your $200 number. But then, I wonder about the utility of warmers and

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jackets in Florida. In BC? Essential. I own four different cycling
jackets to cover four jerseys.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

Really no argument. My point is simply that the utility of the gear
comined with its intitial cost still works out to a pretty reasonable
per use cost.

I will say that my experience has been that the more expensive the
shorts the more comfortable they are on long rides. For shorter rides
I'd agree that most everything works fine.
Still I have PI bib shorts that have years and literally thousands of
miles on them and the only issue is that the leg grippers are getting
worn and loose. My guess is that on a per ride basis their cost is
about a quarter. And per mile less than a penny. Not much for comfort.

"Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rcousine-> >

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Workable kit should not cost more than $100, though by the time you add
arm warmers, leg warmers, and/or a nice jacket, it might be close to
your $200 number. But then, I wonder about the utility of warmers and
jackets in Florida. In BC? Essential. I own four different cycling
jackets to cover four jerseys.

I agree that it's not necessary to spend huge money. I own mainly
Performance and Nashbar house brand clothing, and I've been more than
satisfied. I do have a couple of team jerseys, but my commute gear is el
cheapo house brand, and it works fine.