Re: Attn: Re structure of R.S.U.

I very much like the idea, and I will do whatever I can to help further
this movement of organization, and removal of unnessescary posts. I
personally would like to see the forums broken up more like this:

Muni/Trials
Street(maybe its own category)
Freestyle/Skills
Distance/Big Wheel
Upcoming Events/Upcoming Products
Product reviews
Questions thread
Misc. Stuff(doesnt fit anywhere stuff)
JC

Then all the tech threads.
Mine isn't really refined either but I feel that the more categories the
better. Also to alieve the problem of "Which does this go in?" make a
misc group so that cross categorized things and odd/ irrelevant stuff
can chill without being slaughtered by flamers...

Good Idea Chex,
Eric P. for a Better Newsgroup...

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I agree with Mike totally. If you miss a day, you're way out of the
loop, and you have to sift through so much stuff to find relevant
postings. I think pinkbike is an awesome site and we should definitely
look into Mike's suggestions. Please🙂

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Might as well label one somewhere in the range of 'n00bs-r-us' in an
attempt to contain some of the repetative clutter.

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Max_Dingemans said:

*Might as well label one somewhere in the range of 'n00bs-r-us' in an
attempt to contain some of the repetative clutter. *

Like make a newb thread that is for stuff like "Ask questions on what
unicycle to buy, how to ride, and introduce yourself..." etc??

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a couple more catagorys i think would be ok, but what we really need is
a moderator who has more time to "moderate" or isnt afraid to let others
help.

Gilby seems to be hit or miss with moderating. whats wrong one day goes
without discipline for the next 3 weeks? i was banned for a short time
last year for rapid fire posting in a spam thread. BANNED? that happens
all the time now.....and also in the good threads without action from
anyone except the posters themselves coming out to say knock it off.

we also need a limit on the attached picture size limit. im so tired of
loading a page with multiple huge images because the post was to lazy to
resize them.

getting everyone to move from here to another site doesnt seem very
likly but i wish it could happen. this place is just to neglected for
everyday readers.

i think the phrase "out grown" is spot on.

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jagur said:

* need is a moderator who has more time to "moderate" or isnt afraid
to let others help.
*

I think having a crew of moderators are key, people that use the forum
often and contribute meaningful posts. All mods dont need complete
control just the ability to sort stuff and limit users who have blatent
disregard for civil discussion.

[B]>

Quoted message said:

we also need a limit on the attached picture size limit. im so tired
of loading a page with multiple huge images because the post was to
lazy to resize them.
[/B]

Quoted message said:

getting everyone to move from here to another site doesnt seem very
likly but i wish it could happen. this place is just to neglected for
everyday readers.

i think the phrase "out grown" is spot on. [/B]

I like all these ideas.

I do think we need more mods too just so that the junk that shows up
gets taken care of quickly.

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Maybe if we had 10 mods. 3 with super athority(ultimate). 2 with
semi-athority(referalls and threadlocking), and 5 with selective
athority(Spam removal and threadlocking of only their subject(s)).

I think Gilby deserves to appoint these mods, alone. No matter what
choice he makes, I would stand by him in the decision. Bull on the
election process. Gilby should appoint whoever he feels responsible.
But basically(as far as the complete rennovation goes) we should create
and revise a group of ideas, that we can all suggest/compile on and
deliver them to Gilby. He can make his own final revisons, and I am sure
he will choose things that will better the newsgroup.

Sounds like a plan???

But first we have to come up with a cool name, like

Operation: Anti-Clutter, or U.B.N.T.
Unicyclists for the Betterment of the Newsgroups of Tomorrow.

But if nobody likes my idea 🙁... I guess we can come up with something
different...:p

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So far nobody's said anything I disagree with.

From the point of view of a poster, I think the forums would benefit
from being split up into several seperate boards. All the hot topics I
was looking at at 5.00 last night have disappeared into the void by
now.

From the point of view of a mod(i'm a mod on a different forum-see sig)
I agree that we need more mods, and more boards, If your average poster
can't read all the posts then your average mod isn't likely to be able
to either.

We're about to try the mod-spreading idea on Random Forums, although I
don't think we're big enough to need it yet, and I don't think it will
really work because 2 of our mods havent been n for weeks and havent
done anything useful for months.
Anyway, what we're gonna do is give all mods power over the two main
boards (kinda like RSU and JC) and then split up all the smaller boards
between the mods. The admin still has control over the whole lot, and
maybe on Unicyclist.com another mod should as well, seeing as it's got
so big.

That way a mod doesn't feel they have to read every post on the site,
they'll only have one board which they *have* to read all the time.

If more mods are going to be appointed, they should be as wide a
cross-section of the unicycling community as possible, and if they are
spread out across boards, it's a good idea to give each person a board
they're interested in to look after... There's nearly 9,000 users on
here, admittedly a lot of them don't post, but there must be 10 or so
people who are suitable as mods.

I don't know how all this would affect newsgroup readers, but somebody
must know how to sort that out.

and, finally, who's to say that Gilby wants to restructure all by
himself, or at all? There must be some of you who have the skills to
help with this if needed. Well, get volunteering!

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Personally, I hate the idea of splitting up into multiple categories.

I've used two bike sites, singletrack and bikemagic, one is split into
categories, the other is just everything in one and I find the all in
one view is much better.

Categories are okay for people who are only interested in one type of
riding, but if you do multiple types, you spend all your time checking
multiple categories.

Joe

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I can agree with you on that, but it's impossible to read everything
that gets posted, now that unicyclist.com has grown so much

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If it has multiple categories then it'll need a 'view new posts' button.
Most multi thread fora have these. Just press it and the forum will
look exactly like the current one.

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Checkernuts said:

*Comments, Additions, Counter arguments, and all other thoughts are
encouraged. *

i prefer the suggestion u made on a simmilar thread not so long agoCheckernuts wrote:*What about instead of catagories

Quoted message said:

as a header you put them as a side icon or text to the left of the
thread topic in the thread listing. When creating a thread the author
can choose one of a few number of options to put next to the thread. (
like the smiles are now)*

that strikes me as a kewl idea as it won't mess with the basic newsgroup
gateway (ref john foss's post on 'this' (http://tinyurl.com/4dubg)
thread) but will add the categorised searchabillity that should see off
the problem of threads dissapearing too soon
pete's suggestions also seemed quite workable
this discussion's popped up a couple of time in the recent past
i just can't for the life of me remember what killed the idea before
anyone?

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Can we have an "Old Farts on One Wheel" category???? 😄

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zod said:

*Can we have an "Old Farts on One Wheel" category???? 😄 *

Only if we can subdivide it to include "Increasingly Fat Old Farts on
One Wheel Sidelined Temporarily by Knee Problems."

That is only partly a joke.

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GILD said:

*i just can't for the life of me remember what killed the idea before
anyone? *

Usually it's been the resistance to change, people wanting to see it all
and the possible loss of contributers that may only be active in one
topic... the loss of -unity- in the forums.

In any case, the number of posts has been getting more overwhelming and
it'll have to be broken down here.

Keep the ideas coming.

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I believe that creating additional topical forums is an exercise in
futility. I speak, again ad nauseum, as an information professional
(librarian, content manager, knowledge management expert, a**hole, you
pick the label). In the absence of paid staff to manage the content of
this site or deeply committed volunteers (and even often with such
staff) only a few people will pay attention to where they post. And even
then posts will go way off topic.

That said, one step that can be taken is an interim preview page forced
on anyone *creating a new thread* that has the following elements:

a) The statement of the intent of the forum in which the post is being
created
b) A direct instruction/request to evaluate whether the new thread fits
that intent
c) Links to the other forums, ideally, which when clicked on shift the
entire new message to a similar preview page for the forum so that the
message need not be retyped. (Otherwise, of course, this mechanism will
be largely ignored).

This, at least, forces those creating new threads to consider what
they're doing.

Raphael Lasar
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my only reservations are where there are cross-over topics - where
should I look for offroad Cokering being a good example. I guess it
would be down to the thread starter's viewpoint.

Also some poor soul should perhaps go back through all 19434 (as of a
few moments ago) and move them into the new categories. So many times
have I wanted to start threads asking questions or giving ideas, only to
find them comprehensively covered before.

These excellent resources do not want to be placed in some
hidden/forgotten archive. Although leaving this forum as is & starting
afresh would be alot easier administratively!

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I agree that we should only have these in sub-catagorys. If we had
totally new catagorys a lot of posts would be missed by people who
either don't know where to go (which catagory to pick) or by people that
decide to stick with just one catagory.

I only kinda agree with the Noobs-R-us catagory. Its not a bad idea, but
a possible problem is that I think most non-noobs/experts/good-uniists
would not go to this seperate catagory. Meaning that we would get a lot
less unicyclers coming to this new sport because they either gave up
trying (without your guys support, look at the unifarmer threads you
guys were a great support to him, telling him not to quit) or because
they did not know what uni to get and got a total [censored] one that they
can't learn on.

And also, with different catagorys, I wonder if we would get problems
with misplaced posts from people who really don't know whats what (like
me and other noobs) and where the limit to these subjects are.

Juggling_Arcs

ps: If unifarmer has learned to ride I would like to congratulate him
and also thank him for posting the quistion about the gravity unicycle
which helped me to decide what uni to get.

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