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  1. Zee has steadfastly maintained that you read her posts despite your
    **false** claims to the contrary, dear Frank.

    Please consider yourself irrevocably defeated by the truth that is with
    Zee.

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Frank whom I love, in Lord Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    listener said:


    Ouch. [censored]-slapped by zee.

    Best not to respond, Nel.

    L.

    "outrider" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Hey Nel

    Your posting history to sci.med.cardiology shows 14 posts in the past
    four years asking Dr. Chung his opinion of your cardiology related
    symptoms. Most people would prefer to see a real flesh and blood
    physician for such serious concerns, but since you repeatedly ask Dr.
    Chung his opinion consider being appropriately grateful for the time he
    takes with you.

    Zee

    Nel said:

    Hi,
    I talked to the Nurse Practitioner this morning and she seems to


    think

    Quoted message said:

    that everything is find and not to get excited over something someone


    tells

    Quoted message said:

    me on the PC. She said syncopal episode meant fainting spell and she


    will

    Quoted message said:

    tell Dr. about this and he will call me later, but for me not to


    worry about

    Quoted message said:

    it. That I would be having more things going on if the QT wasn't


    right.(in

    Quoted message said:

    my words).
    I'll let you know what my Cardio has to say..
    Thanks....Nel

    >
    > Nel wrote:
    > > I just read this and it's too late now....Yes, that does scare me


    to

    Quoted message said:

    > > death. I'll have to wait till morning and I have to take my
    > med...This
    > > happened before I took it this morning....Nel
    > >
    > >
    > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > > I have Atrial Fibrillation. I was recently put on Tikosyn
    > after a
    > > > 5 day
    > > > > > stay at the hospital. This morning during breakfast I felt


    like

    Quoted message said:

    > my
    > > > heart
    > > > > > stopped and I felt faint....very scary...was this a
    > palpitation? I
    > > > have a
    > > > > > feeling if I had coughed, it would have gone away. Haven't


    had

    Quoted message said:

    > > > these with
    > > > > > AFib before though. I use to have palpitations when I has


    very

    Quoted message said:

    > > > young. I
    > > > > > think it was the same thing......what are your thoughts on
    > this....
    > > > >
    > > > > You need to inform your cardiologist right away.
    > > > >
    > > > > Tell him/her that you ran this by an American cardiologist on


    the

    Quoted message said:

    > > > > internet who told you that you had what sounds like a
    > near-syncopal
    > > > > episode and that the concern is significant QT prolongation


    and

    Quoted message said:

    > > > Torsade
    > > > > de Pointes.
    > > > >
    > > > > Would suggest you **stop** the Tikosyn **now**, in the


    interim.

    Quoted message said:

    > > > >
    > > > > > Thanks so much.......Nel
    > > > >
    > > > > You are welcome.
    > > > >
    > > > > All praises belong to my heavenly Father, Whom I love with


    all my

    Quoted message said:

    > > > heart,
    > > > > soul, mind, and strength :-)
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > At His service,
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    > > > > Board-Certified Cardiologist
    > > > <<snip ad>>
    > > >
    > > > Well, you probably just gave her a cardiac event. It might


    prove to

    Quoted message said:

    > be
    > > > nothing.
    > > >
    > > > OTOH, the wisest course of action is to follow Dr. Chung's


    advice

    Quoted message said:

    > in
    > > > this matter.
    > > >
    >
    > Dear Nel,
    >
    > I don't feel it was necessary for Dr. Chung to scare you so - he


    meant

    Quoted message said:

    > well. Just give your cardiologist a call and explain the whole


    thing.

    Quoted message said:

    > There is no sense in risking it. You cannot depend on a ng Dx.
    >
    > Please, do come back and tell us of your experience. Even if it is
    > nothing, we will feel better knowing you are over it.
    >
    > -elgoog
    >

  2. Cheri said:


    One of the few times I'm on your side Andy...I hate the "C" thing, and
    any time these little turds resort to that stuff, they have no
    credibility either.

    You are certainly more than welcome to join me in my continued walk with
    Lord Jesus Christ :-)

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  3. Sorry, it remains my choice to answer only to the Lord God Almighty who
    has given me the strength and resolve to continue this ad infinitum:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?D3DE219AA

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

    11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
    say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
    because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
    persecuted the prophets who were before you.

    You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Lord
    Christ's holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Bunky42 said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:
    Bunky42 said:

    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

    >gman99 wrote:
    >
    >
    >>>Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you.

    Once again you're totally lost. No one cares that you are a Christian.

    -People care when it is your only answer for your mistakes and lack of
    knowledge.
    -People care when you fill our newsgroups with your garbage.
    -People care when you continue to cross-post when asked not to.
    -People care when you give advice that’s potentially dangerous to people
    without actually seeing them.
    -People care when you are so BLINDED by your faith that you can’t see
    the truth.

    You are a supposedly educated person, you should know better yet you
    continue. And blame it on God to boot. Shame on you!!!!

    Quoted message said:

    <Snip [censored]>
    At His service,

    Andrew

  4. Bunky42 said:


    Andrew B. Chung said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bunky42 wrote:
    Either it's *Jesus* or it's *you* that [censored] people off. If it's


    Jesus, >>then maybe religion has a problem. If it's you, then you have
    the >>problem. How can you serve him if he is the problem? Even worse,
    how >>can you serve him if you're the problem?

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, it remains my choice to answer only to the Lord God Almighty who
    has given me the strength and resolve to continue this ad infinitum:


    Your lack of responce only adds credence to most people opinion of you.

    Your not liking my response is not equivalent to lack thereof.
    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic for these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?L26062048
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

  5. I am no doc, but a near syncopal episode with those
    symptoms could easily be Torsades and pretty damned
    dangerous, the med could be cation depleting and Torsades
    can be the kiss of death quite literally.

    Frankly, internet or not, weather you like him or not, Dr, Chung
    is right on target when you see the medical expertise he posts,
    I have said this before and been flamed, I really don't care about
    the flames, I am Christian but don't flaunt it in my posts nor does
    it bother me when others choose to discuss their Christianity
    in their posts, if it offends you, take what you like and leave the
    rest behind. Dr. Chung has some brilliant medical expertise.

    --
    Patrick H. Mason M.S. OHST, NREMT-P
    "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Zee has steadfastly maintained that you read her posts despite your
    **false** claims to the contrary, dear Frank.

    Please consider yourself irrevocably defeated by the truth that is with
    Zee.

    Truth is simple:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

    The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A

    You will remain in my prayers, dear Frank whom I love, in Lord Christ's
    holy name.

    May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
    Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
    fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

    Here's how:

    http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
    the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
    is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
    arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
    Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
    2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
    His presence known here on Usenet :-)

    Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
    oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
    "omer" literally means in Hebrew.

    Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
    thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

    http://www.heartmdphd.com/wtloss.asp

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:

    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B2B851EFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

    listener said:


    Ouch. [censored]-slapped by zee.

    Best not to respond, Nel.

    L.

    "outrider" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Hey Nel

    Your posting history to sci.med.cardiology shows 14 posts in the past
    four years asking Dr. Chung his opinion of your cardiology related
    symptoms. Most people would prefer to see a real flesh and blood
    physician for such serious concerns, but since you repeatedly ask Dr.
    Chung his opinion consider being appropriately grateful for the time


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    takes with you.

    Zee

    Nel wrote:
    > Hi,
    > I talked to the Nurse Practitioner this morning and she seems to
    think
    > that everything is find and not to get excited over something someone
    tells
    > me on the PC. She said syncopal episode meant fainting spell and she
    will
    > tell Dr. about this and he will call me later, but for me not to
    worry about
    > it. That I would be having more things going on if the QT wasn't
    right.(in
    > my words).
    > I'll let you know what my Cardio has to say..
    > Thanks....Nel
    >
    >
    > >
    > > Nel wrote:
    > > > I just read this and it's too late now....Yes, that does scare me
    to
    > > > death. I'll have to wait till morning and I have to take my
    > > med...This
    > > > happened before I took it this morning....Nel
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > > > > Hi,
    > > > > > > I have Atrial Fibrillation. I was recently put on Tikosyn
    > > after a
    > > > > 5 day
    > > > > > > stay at the hospital. This morning during breakfast I felt
    like
    > > my
    > > > > heart
    > > > > > > stopped and I felt faint....very scary...was this a
    > > palpitation? I
    > > > > have a
    > > > > > > feeling if I had coughed, it would have gone away. Haven't
    had
    > > > > these with
    > > > > > > AFib before though. I use to have palpitations when I has
    very
    > > > > young. I
    > > > > > > think it was the same thing......what are your thoughts on
    > > this....
    > > > > >
    > > > > > You need to inform your cardiologist right away.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Tell him/her that you ran this by an American cardiologist on
    the
    > > > > > internet who told you that you had what sounds like a
    > > near-syncopal
    > > > > > episode and that the concern is significant QT prolongation
    and
    > > > > Torsade
    > > > > > de Pointes.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Would suggest you **stop** the Tikosyn **now**, in the
    interim.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > > Thanks so much.......Nel
    > > > > >
    > > > > > You are welcome.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > All praises belong to my heavenly Father, Whom I love with
    all my
    > > > > heart,
    > > > > > soul, mind, and strength :-)
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > At His service,
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Andrew
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    > > > > > Board-Certified Cardiologist
    > > > > <<snip ad>>
    > > > >
    > > > > Well, you probably just gave her a cardiac event. It might
    prove to
    > > be
    > > > > nothing.
    > > > >
    > > > > OTOH, the wisest course of action is to follow Dr. Chung's
    advice
    > > in
    > > > > this matter.
    > > > >
    > >
    > > Dear Nel,
    > >
    > > I don't feel it was necessary for Dr. Chung to scare you so - he
    meant
    > > well. Just give your cardiologist a call and explain the whole
    thing.
    > > There is no sense in risking it. You cannot depend on a ng Dx.
    > >
    > > Please, do come back and tell us of your experience. Even if it is
    > > nothing, we will feel better knowing you are over it.
    > >
    > > -elgoog
    > >

  6. Patrick said:


    I am no doc, but a near syncopal episode with those
    symptoms could easily be Torsades and pretty damned
    dangerous, the med could be cation depleting and Torsades
    can be the kiss of death quite literally.

    Frankly, internet or not, weather you like him or not, Dr, Chung
    is right on target when you see the medical expertise he posts,
    I have said this before and been flamed, I really don't care about
    the flames, I am Christian but don't flaunt it in my posts nor does
    it bother me when others choose to discuss their Christianity
    in their posts, if it offends you, take what you like and leave the
    rest behind. Dr. Chung has some brilliant medical expertise.

    --
    Patrick H. Mason M.S. OHST, NREMT-P

    May the Lord protect you from the hatred folks will have for you because
    of your choice to make a stand for the truth, in Lord Jesus' most
    precious and holy name.

    At His service,

    Andrew

    --
    Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist

    **
    Suggested Reading:
    (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
    (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?B5CE25FFA
    (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
    (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
    (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
    (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
    (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

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