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ROFLMAO!!!!!

So MHA's rb's "written up this little article for you"??? Then why was it
so stinkin' easy to find this on the 'net at lifeextensionvitamins.com?

Word for word, rb pilfered other people's work & claimed it as his/her own.
What a piece of squirrel [censored] s/he is!

Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

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ROFLMAO!!!!!

So MHA's rb's "written up this little article for you"??? Then why was

it

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so stinkin' easy to find this on the 'net at lifeextensionvitamins.com?

Word for word, rb pilfered other people's work & claimed it as his/her

own.

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What a piece of squirrel [censored] s/he is!

Did you really think I wrote that you twit?

Gee rb, it was obvious you couldn't have strung that together -- why do you
think several people immediately realized it?

Have you ever heard of a

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joke-(besides cabg's or chemo or radiation)?

Sure -- chelation for CAD & your ideas of religious tolerance.

Posting that piece of nonsense as evidence of *your* knowledge of EECP was a
lie, not a joke. You were asked to post *your* explanation of EECP, not
copy somebody else's. (To actually tell someone "it's so straightforward
even someone as dumb as you should understand it"-- when you haven't the
foggiest idea of what 99% of it meant -- was just more of your terminal
idiocy, not a joke.)

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You couldn't tell I was being
sarcastic?

You presented somebody else's words instead of your own because you don't
know what you're talking about. [Seems you make a habit out of doing that.
Pity.] Hardly "sarcasm". Look it up -- unless you're as unfamiliar with a
dictionary as you are with an anatomy text.

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Where's your reading comprehension skills you twit?

Plagiarizing, lying, & unable to support your POV -- nope, no problem
comprehending your pathetic behavior. Backpedaling doesn't change it.

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Get off this board you anti alter. Go away. Leave us alone. This NG

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for us, not you guys.--rb

Your frustration is showing, rb. It's nobody's fault but yours that you've
been shown to be a know-nothing & completely unaware of what's going on
around you. Your reference to "This NG is for us, not you guys" is one of
your funniest lines of all -- get used to the idea that this NG is for
anybody who feels like being here. You can utilize your kill file -- ignore
the posters who peg you for the moron you are -- or keep on being the
Simpleton of the Year you've been so far. If you can't handle any of those
choices, there's always a rope & a rafter for ya somewhere.

Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

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ROFLMAO!!!!!

So MHA's rb's "written up this little article for you"??? Then why was it
so stinkin' easy to find this on the 'net at lifeextensionvitamins.com?

Word for word, rb pilfered other people's work & claimed it as his/her

own.

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What a piece of squirrel [censored] s/he is!

Did you really think I wrote that you twit? Have you ever heard of a
joke-(besides cabg's or chemo or radiation)? You couldn't tell I was being
sarcastic? Where's your reading comprehension skills you twit?

Rubber, listen, if one of the Realmed folks were to do what you did, you
can bet your last herb that jan would be all over them whining how they
are admitted liars. However, being the hypocrite that she is, she will
give you a free pass.

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Get off this board you anti alter. Go away. Leave us alone. This NG is
for us, not you guys.--rb

Pure closemindedness.

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ROFLMAO!!!!!

So MHA's rb's "written up this little article for you"??? Then why was

it

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so stinkin' easy to find this on the 'net at lifeextensionvitamins.com?

Word for word, rb pilfered other people's work & claimed it as his/her

own.

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What a piece of squirrel [censored] s/he is!

Did you really think I wrote that you twit?

Then why did you say that you did??

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Have you ever heard of a
joke

Yep. And the joke is on you. Actually it is more appropriate to say
that you ARE a joke.

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You couldn't tell I was being
sarcastic?

What is sarcastic about saying that you wrote something?? Or were you
talking about the *content* of the post being sarcastic??

No,.......the answer to Hawki was sarcastic. It was a response to her
wanting me to write an explanation of EECP in my own words to show I knew
what it was so rather than waste time like that i just posted that concise
explanation of what EECP was. --rb

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Where's your reading comprehension skills you twit?

I do love these self referential posts. Rb says that he wrote
something and then accuses those who believe what he said as being a
twit with poor reading comprehension skills. I love it!!!

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Get off this board you anti alter. Go away. Leave us alone. This NG

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for us, not you guys.--rb

You are a bit confused. Those who are skeptical about alt medicine
have just as much of a right to post as those who are true believers.
Read the charter for this newsgroup; unless your reading comprehension
is as bad as what you accuse others of.

This is a group for alters to discuss(pro and con) alternative
treatments, not for anti alt pro meds to come in and bash and lie and insult
and impugn alt med and everyone that believes in it.--rb

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Time to create a new pseudonym and come back from under some other
rock, unless of course you are a glutton for punishment. Time will
tell.

My name remains the same. I don't mind what you guy's say to or about me.
I am impervious to your flames and insults. I haven't felt a thing yet. I
realise after all who they're coming from.--rb

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> So MHA's rb's "written up this little article for you"??? Then why

was

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> so stinkin' easy to find this on the 'net at

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Did you really think I wrote that you twit?

Then why did you say that you did??

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Have you ever heard of a
joke

Yep. And the joke is on you. Actually it is more appropriate to say
that you ARE a joke.

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You couldn't tell I was being
sarcastic?

What is sarcastic about saying that you wrote something?? Or were you
talking about the *content* of the post being sarcastic??

No,.......the answer to Hawki was sarcastic. It was a response to her
wanting me to write an explanation of EECP in my own words to show I knew
what it was so rather than waste time like that i just posted that concise
explanation of what EECP was. --rb

So rather than show you actually don't know EECP from PEEK-A-BOO, you posted
somebody else's explanation of the treatment??? LOL! Unfortunately, your
"strategy" showed exactly what Hawki & others here predicted it would --
that you don't have the foggiest idea of what EECP is, or what it can &
can't do.

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Where's your reading comprehension skills you twit?

I do love these self referential posts. Rb says that he wrote
something and then accuses those who believe what he said as being a
twit with poor reading comprehension skills. I love it!!!

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Get off this board you anti alter. Go away. Leave us alone. This NG

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for us, not you guys.--rb

You are a bit confused. Those who are skeptical about alt medicine
have just as much of a right to post as those who are true believers.
Read the charter for this newsgroup; unless your reading comprehension
is as bad as what you accuse others of.

This is a group for alters to discuss(pro and con) alternative
treatments,

This is not a NG for everyone who believes in the validity of every alt.
product, therapy, & idea to sit around & nod their heads in glassy-eyed
agreement, loser. It's for people with an interest in the subject to
discuss, debate, & even argue about it.

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not for anti alt pro meds to come in and bash and lie and insult
and impugn alt med and everyone that believes in it.--rb

It's not for ad space. It's not for trying to stop others from speaking
their minds. It IS for *anyone* who wants to enter into the forum of ideas &
opinions posted. You really need to deal with that reality. It's not going
to change because you whine about it. Your feeble attempts to silence those
who recognize your ignorance waste valuable time you could be spending to
educate yourself about the various subjects you've proven yourself
completely uninformed about, rb.

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Time to create a new pseudonym and come back from under some other
rock, unless of course you are a glutton for punishment. Time will
tell.

My name remains the same. I don't mind what you guy's say to or about

me.

For someone who doesn't mind, you're awful quick to cry & moan that people
who know more about -- well, just about anything -- than you should go
elsewhere. There seems to be a bit of a contradiction there......

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I am impervious to your flames and insults. I haven't felt a thing yet. I
realise after all who they're coming from.--rb

Yeah -- they're coming from people who see you for the worthless flotsam you
are

Michele
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> So MHA's rb's "written up this little article for you"??? Then why

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Did you really think I wrote that you twit?

Gee rb, it was obvious you couldn't have strung that together -- why do

you

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think several people immediately realized it?

Have you ever heard of a

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joke-(besides cabg's or chemo or radiation)?

Sure -- chelation for CAD & your ideas of religious tolerance.

Now nursie, stop showing your ignorance. We'll all think,....errr i

mean

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know you have a bone in your head for a brain.--rb

ROFLMAO!!! The Plagiarizer & Liar speaks -- unfortunately he has NO idea
what he speaks of........

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Posting that piece of nonsense

Why would you call it nonsense, you humourless nothing?--rb

Gee, my mistake. After reading it again, I DO see why you posted it as a
joke. Sorry, I thought you were presenting it as serious information.

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as evidence of *your* knowledge of EECP was a

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lie, not a joke. You were asked to post *your* explanation of EECP,

So to prove you know what EECP is, why don't you write up a big piece to
show us all that you understand it yourself, which you don't? --rb

I've observed the procedure & spoken with those who provide the treatment.
As a temporary reliever of angina pain it has its place. It won't hurt most
people. It's not painful. As a "cure" for heart disease & circulatory
problems for cardiac patients, it doesn't cut it. As Hawki already pointed
out, patients receiving EECP have often had surgery & are usually on meds
for their cardiac insufficiency. I've seen patients claim they feel better
after the course of therapy, as well as those who don't.

It isn't the brainchild of a vitamin company, dingbat -- it's certainly not
"natural" -- it requires medical supervision (the same nurses & doctors you
resent for their knowledge & skill) -- & it isn't done for free. [And now
that some insurance companies cover it, rest assured there will be plenty of
$$ made from it.]

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copy somebody else's. (To actually tell someone "it's so straightforward
even someone as dumb as you should understand it"-- when you haven't the
foggiest idea of what 99% of it meant -- was just more of your terminal
idiocy, not a joke.)

What 99% is that?

Everything but "What is EECP" -- I'll concede you understood *that*.

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As for yourself, do you understand even 10% about how your heroes

You may have heroes, nitwit -- I don't. No need for make believe.........

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in
organised medicine rip off everybody

Yeah, all those people who are alive after surgery to correct their
congenital heart defects, the people with diabetes who would be dead without
their insulin (before which the average lifespan after the onset of Type 1
DM was less than 2 years), burn victims who survive because of advances in
medical care -- sure, rb. they all got "ripped off". What a piece of
excrement you are! Your use of the term "organized medicine" shows your
blind belief in some sort of fairy tale good/evil, us/them [censored]. Come
back to reality, rb. It's plain that you have a hard time dealing with it,
but it's time......

Your ideas about "rip offs" is funny coming from someone who touts chelation
& EECP as some sort of pie-in-the-sky miracles.

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and do you know nursie idiot you are
aiding and abetting it you half witted dupe,

Coming from a ninny who doesn't even know what specialty of health care I
work in as a nurse, that's funny. But we've already seen that not knowing
what you're talking about hasn't stopped you before.......

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all this despite your supposed
knowledge of A & P which you think makes you one of the elite-( your just

a

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wee little nursie you know)-who can feel better than and talk down to

those

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who don't know the names etc of this and that.

Aaaaaah, now the real resentment & bitterness resulting from your own
feelings of inadequacy begin to swell like a pustulating carbuncle......

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An attitude of I'm so
important, look what i know.

As opposed to your "I'm so important, look what I don't know"? <G>

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This feeling of superiority you have over the ignorant masses-

Got that one wrong, rb -- it's my superiority to YOU. And it's not a
feeling, it's a fact.

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(whom you
purport to help while really holding them in barely concealed contempt)

ROFLMAO!! Not knowing the patients I deal with, once again you're rambling
about things you are clueless about. It's becoming a really bad habit of
yours........

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-has
filled you with such loathsome pride and arrogance that your ego has

become

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so puffed up that it won't allow you to see the truth about the means and
methods of pharmaceuticals to maximise profits which is their main reason
for existence over all other considerations

Use an archive to get some background before you attribute opinions &
statements to people that are as erroneous as the rest of the drivel you go
on about.

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versus alternative medicines
proven efficacious treatments for all sorts of things that conventional
medicine with all their drugs etc can't even come close to reversing.

Suuuuure -- let's name these "cures", these "reversals" for some common
health problems. [[censored], I'll even settle for the names of alt. treatments
that only halt the *progression* of a disease or even just prolong the
patient's life.] Diabetes? Nope. Asthma? Naaah. HIV/AIDS? Hardly.
Hepatitis B or C? In your dreams. ESRD? Nyet.

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So the
reason you won't believe in alternative med is because you would have to
admit you are a fool and a wee mere nursie that wasn't all that superior
after all, isn't it?

I believe in the efficacy of some alt. therapies. Once again, talking out
your butt only demonstrates how out of touch with reality you are. Your
resentment of those more knowledgable than you, those who have the brains
you can only wish you had is interesting to see, rb.

You have to grimly fight to hang on to your image of

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yourself as this wise know it all nurse because outside of it you have no
other basis to have any self esteem at all do you? You have to keep up

your

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appearances after all, don't you? Better you to keep up your image of
yourself than to really help people get well, isn't it? You have no shame

do

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you?--rb

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You couldn't tell I was being
sarcastic?

You presented somebody else's words instead of your own because you

don't

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know what you're talking about. [Seems you make a habit out of doing

that.

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Pity.] Hardly "sarcasm". Look it up -- unless you're as unfamiliar

with

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a

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dictionary as you are with an anatomy text.

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Where's your reading comprehension skills you twit?

Plagiarizing, lying, & unable to support your POV -- nope, no problem
comprehending your pathetic behavior. Backpedaling doesn't change it.

Now Nursie know it all, I didn't "plagarise" nor lie and did indeed

support

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my POV and did not backpedal at all. --rb

Another lie. You have repeatedly copied the words of others. You backpedal
constantly -- "I was being sarcastic", "I was joking" -- as if anybody
can't see through such nonsense.

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Get off this board you anti alter. Go away. Leave us alone. This

NG

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for us, not you guys.--rb

Your frustration is showing, rb. It's nobody's fault but yours that

you've

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been shown to be a know-nothing & completely unaware of what's going on
around you.

Sounds more like twits like you nursie know it all!--rb

Your reference to "This NG is for us, not you guys" is one of

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your funniest lines of all -- get used to the idea that this NG is for
anybody who feels like being here. You can utilize your kill file --

ignore

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the posters who peg you for the moron you are -- or keep on being the
Simpleton of the Year you've been so far.

I think you're the simpleton and I'm right, you are.--rb

If you can't handle any of those

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choices, there's always a rope & a rafter for ya somewhere.

If I were Fred I'd suspect I'd gladly take the rope and rafter and hang
you on it.--rb

It's probably a good thing that you're as sharp as a bowling ball & as
bright as a 4 watt bulb -- you might actually be able to infect others with
your twisted views WRT religion & health care if you weren't so stupid that
most people spot you for a misguided loon pretty quickly.

[And BTW, you could never be Fred -- I would never married an unintelligent,
bigoted man like you. Life is far too short to be that bored.]

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Would you please massage that bone in the center of your head. You

know,

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where your brain should be.

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Gee, now all can see exactly where rb's coming from. The resentment &
bitterness he has directed toward those who are educated & intelligent oozes
from every pore of his body.

His views of equating knowledge with elitism shows he resents his own lack
of knowledge. His inability to show anyone that he has any factual
information about the topics he discusses leave him angry. Unable to do
more than stew about all the people who are smarter than he (MOST here), he
spews his religious bigotry, lies about what he knows, takes other people's
words as his own because he's too dull witted to come up with anything, &
rants that those who don't go along with his game of "rb's Make Believe"
should go elsewhere to post.

I hope rb finds a nice quiet place where he can calm down, let go of his
feelings of frustration WRT his inadequacies, & maybe understand why his
deity has "been of no use" to him in MHA. <G>

Michele
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I am impervious to your flames and insults. I haven't felt a thing yet. I
realise after all who they're coming from.--rb

Yeah -- they're coming from people who see you for the worthless flotsam you
are

Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

rb sounds more like jetsam to me.
YMMV

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> So MHA's rb's "written up this little article for you"??? Then why

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his/her

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> What a piece of squirrel [censored] s/he is!
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Did you really think I wrote that you twit?

Then why did you say that you did??

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Have you ever heard of a
joke

Yep. And the joke is on you. Actually it is more appropriate to say
that you ARE a joke.

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You couldn't tell I was being
sarcastic?

What is sarcastic about saying that you wrote something?? Or were you
talking about the *content* of the post being sarcastic??

No,.......the answer to Hawki was sarcastic. It was a response to her
wanting me to write an explanation of EECP in my own words to show I knew
what it was so rather than waste time like that i just posted that concise
explanation of what EECP was. --rb

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Where's your reading comprehension skills you twit?

I do love these self referential posts. Rb says that he wrote
something and then accuses those who believe what he said as being a
twit with poor reading comprehension skills. I love it!!!

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Get off this board you anti alter. Go away. Leave us alone. This NG

is

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for us, not you guys.--rb

You are a bit confused. Those who are skeptical about alt medicine
have just as much of a right to post as those who are true believers.
Read the charter for this newsgroup; unless your reading comprehension
is as bad as what you accuse others of.

This is a group for alters to discuss(pro and con) alternative
treatments, not for anti alt pro meds to come in and bash and lie and

insult

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and impugn alt med and everyone that believes in it.--rb

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Time to create a new pseudonym and come back from under some other
rock, unless of course you are a glutton for punishment. Time will
tell.

My name remains the same. I don't mind what you guy's say to or about

me.

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I am impervious to your flames and insults. I haven't felt a thing yet. I
realise after all who they're coming from.--rb

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why

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his/her

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do

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> Sure -- chelation for CAD & your ideas of religious tolerance.

Now nursie, stop showing your ignorance. We'll all think,....errr i

mean

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know you have a bone in your head for a brain.--rb

ROFLMAO!!! The Plagiarizer & Liar speaks -- unfortunately he has NO

idea

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what he speaks of........

You have no idea of what you speak!--rb

You copy the words of others -- Plagiarizer. You lie when you make claims
of knowledge you don't possess -- Liar. So far, right on the mark......

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> Posting that piece of nonsense

Why would you call it nonsense, you humourless nothing?--rb

Gee, my mistake. After reading it again, I DO see why you posted it as

a

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joke. Sorry, I thought you were presenting it as serious information.

I was.--rb

LOL! Go with the option of posting it as a joke -- it doesn't make you look
quite so naive.

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as evidence of *your* knowledge of EECP was a
> lie, not a joke. You were asked to post *your* explanation of EECP,

So to prove you know what EECP is, why don't you write up a big

piece

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show us all that you understand it yourself, which you don't? --rb

I've observed the procedure & spoken with those who provide the

treatment.

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As a temporary reliever of angina pain it has its place.

Do cabg's do much more than temporarily relieve angina, for those it
don't kill on the table?

For many, yes. And perhaps you can quote for us the statisitics on those
who die despite receiving what you tout as some sort of miracle treatment?

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But yet you downplay what a great treatment eecp
is. Talk about dumb. Who made you a nurse?--rb

Yes, let's talk about dumb -- like how dumb you are to think EECP is soooo
effective for long term succes in cardiac disease, how you insist it's
somehow "natural" (as if it's natural to have large air filled cuffs
controlled by a machine alternating pressure to one's limbs!!), & how a
person like you -- completely uninformed about basic physiological functions
of the body & the etiology of simple pathologies, let alone interventions to
treat them. Just because *you* wouldn't make the grade to be a candy
striper much less a nurse, don't let that frustration WRT your own
intellectual shortcomings gnaw at the few brain cells you have left, rb. In
both conventional & alt health care there are people who are able to do
things & people who can't. You are in the latter group & keep people in the
former group (like me) busy & feeling good while making a nice living.

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people. It's not painful. As a "cure" for heart disease & circulatory
problems for cardiac patients, it doesn't cut it.

You mean cabg's cut it? They certainly do and don't--rb

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out, patients receiving EECP have often had surgery & are usually on

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for their cardiac insufficiency. I've seen patients claim they feel

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after the course of therapy, as well as those who don't.

Who brainwashed you? --rb

ROFLMAO! I know that education & learning are dirty words to you rb, but
substituting "brainwashed"??? Tooo funny! Once again, you equate knowledge
with sinister motives & evil conspiracies -- no wonder you avoid it at all
costs........

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It isn't the brainchild of a vitamin company, dingbat -- it's certainly

not

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"natural" -- it requires medical supervision (the same nurses & doctors

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resent for their knowledge & skill) -- & it isn't done for free.

Whats not natural about it dopey?

See above. The equipment used, the medical supervision that goes with it,
the drugs the patients often still need -- "all natural", eh? Good one.
Clown.

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I don't resent any Doctor's or Nurses

Sure you do. Otherwise your comments would be directed specifically at me,
not MD's & nurses as a group. But your resentment of those able to
understand what you sadly can't will only serve to keep you in the bonds of
ignorance, rb. Let it go.

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except those that are wilful dupes and stooges-(like you and Fred)

Gee rb, just when it looks as if your stupidity has peaked you reach higher
altitude!! Your repeated mentionings of my husband is interesting. Tell us
what you know about him -- his profession, his interest in health care, his
opinions about alt. vs. conventional medicine. You know as much about him
as you do about most things -- zip.

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-of the
Medical-Pharma-Industrial Complex. I know it isn't done for free you
halfwitted twit.--rb

As opposed to you being a twit lacking any wit?

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[And now

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that some insurance companies cover it, rest assured there will be

plenty

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of

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$$ made from it.]

Now you must be jumping for joy?--rb

Avoidance of the point noted, rb. EECP is a money maker, just as other
treatments are. I don't make my money from CABG's, cardiac meds, or EECP,
so the source of funding for those therapies makes little difference to me..

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straightforward

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> even someone as dumb as you should understand it"-- when you haven't

the

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> foggiest idea of what 99% of it meant -- was just more of your

terminal

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> idiocy, not a joke.)

What 99% is that?

Everything but "What is EECP" -- I'll concede you understood *that*.

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As for yourself, do you understand even 10% about how your heroes

You may have heroes, nitwit -- I don't. No need for make

believe.........

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in
organised medicine rip off everybody

Yeah, all those people who are alive after surgery to correct their
congenital heart defects, the people with diabetes who would be dead

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their insulin (before which the average lifespan after the onset of Type

1

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DM was less than 2 years),

Banting and Best discovered Insulin, not one of your hero drug companies.

Who the hell do you imagine produces insulin, you cretin?? Are you so
stupid you think that there is ONE kind of insulin -- are you so uninformed
that you've never heard of insulin pumps -- do you suppose that people GUESS
what their blood glucose levels are? Pharm companies put out a variety of
insulins, both natural & synthetic. There are a multitude of glucose
monitors to help diabetics manage their condition. Type 2 DM is often
treated with oral meds to control glucose levels. Alt. health care will not
successfully manage brittle IDDM cases.

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Correcting congenital defects may be a good reason for invasive

surgery.--rb

There are lots of good reasons for invasive surgery. Some surgeries are
performed too much, for inappropriate situations. It doesn't negate the
fact that many surgical interventions are of great benefit to the patient.

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burn victims who survive because of advances in

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medical care -- sure, rb. they all got "ripped off". What a piece of
excrement you are! Your use of the term "organized medicine" shows your
blind belief in some sort of fairy tale good/evil, us/them [censored].

Come

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back to reality, rb. It's plain that you have a hard time dealing with

it,

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but it's time......

Your the one thats out of touch with reality. Cripes lady, get a
grip.--rb

Avoidance of the point once again noted.

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Your ideas about "rip offs" is funny coming from someone who touts

chelation

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& EECP as some sort of pie-in-the-sky miracles.

As I said, your a nursie idiot and don't know it! Who takes you to

these

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training seminars where they fill your head full of drug company

propaganda

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and thoroughly brainwash an unthinking you. The drug companies, that's

who!

You're a comedian, rb. I rarely attend any pharm sponsored seminars -- I
prefer the university research project seminars I go to as well as
participating in studies related to my particular field sponsored by various
entities.

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I think you prostitute yourself very cheaply. What a shameless hussy you
are.

Twisted sexual ideas are common in narrowminded bigots like you when they
are frustrated in their attempts to silence those who showcase them for the
little monkeys they are.

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A straightforward hooker most likely has more decency than you.--rb

Visiting hookers again, rb? Thanks for sharing your little picadilloes with
us.......

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and do you know nursie idiot you are
aiding and abetting it you half witted dupe,

Gee, & you don't resent nurses & doctors??? Along with the "aiding &
abetting" silliness, quite funny!

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I

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work in as a nurse, that's funny. But we've already seen that not

knowing

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what you're talking about hasn't stopped you before.......

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all this despite your supposed
knowledge of A & P which you think makes you one of the elite-( your

just

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wee little nursie you know)-who can feel better than and talk down to

those

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who don't know the names etc of this and that.

Aaaaaah, now the real resentment & bitterness resulting from your own
feelings of inadequacy begin to swell like a pustulating carbuncle......

No my dear, I don't at all feel at all inadequate to or envious of any
Doctors or Nurses,

Yeah, you are -- 'cause we know "this & that" -- too funny! especially
those whom are stooges of the

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Pharma-Medical-Industrial Complex.--rb

Oooooh, the EEEEVIL conspiracy always rears its head when the stupid ones
like you can't come up with something logical & coherent -- it's the
trademark of the paranoid.

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An attitude of I'm so
important, look what i know.

As opposed to your "I'm so important, look what I don't know"? <G>

Your elitist [censored] again. "Now run along little ignorant patient who

doesn't

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know your A&P and get out of the way with your ignorant questions" type of
attitude.--rb

Spoken as someone who's seething with bitterness towards those he can't
actually debate.......

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This feeling of superiority you have over the ignorant masses-

Got that one wrong, rb -- it's my superiority to YOU. And it's not a
feeling, it's a fact.

I do stuff in the toilet thats superior to you!--rb

You will always be inferior to most people, rb. You are a nothing, a toad,
a loser. Pudding skin is superior to you. Being superior to you brings a
smile to my face.

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(whom you

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purport to help while really holding them in barely concealed

contempt)

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ROFLMAO!! Not knowing the patients I deal with, once again you're

rambling

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about things you are clueless about. It's becoming a really bad habit

of

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yours........

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-has
filled you with such loathsome pride and arrogance that your ego has

become

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so puffed up that it won't allow you to see the truth about the means

and

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methods of pharmaceuticals to maximise profits which is their main

reason

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for existence over all other considerations

Use an archive to get some background before you attribute opinions &
statements to people that are as erroneous as the rest of the drivel you

go

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on about.

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versus alternative medicines
proven efficacious treatments for all sorts of things that

conventional

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medicine with all their drugs etc can't even come close to reversing.

Suuuuure -- let's name these "cures", these "reversals" for some common
health problems. [[censored], I'll even settle for the names of alt.

treatments

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that only halt the *progression* of a disease or even just prolong the
patient's life.] Diabetes? Nope. Asthma? Naaah. HIV/AIDS?

Hardly.

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Hepatitis B or C? In your dreams. ESRD? Nyet.

I've already told you of Chelation for heart disease and diabetes. Why do
you not believe?

ROFLMAO!!! Chelation for IDDM?! I suppose you'll tell us how it kick
starts the pancreatic islets?

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You've been brainwashed maybe?--rb

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So the
reason you won't believe in alternative med is because you would have

to

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admit you are a fool and a wee mere nursie that wasn't all that

superior

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after all, isn't it?

I believe in the efficacy of some alt. therapies. Once again, talking

out

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your butt only demonstrates how out of touch with reality you are.

You seem to talk out of your butt continually.--rb

Avoidance of admitting you don't know what you're talking about noted......

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resentment of those more knowledgable than you, those who have the

brains

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you can only wish you had is interesting to see, rb.

I'm quite intelligent. I don't resent any (mis)education you or anybody
else has more than me.--rb

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You have to grimly fight to hang on to your image of

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yourself as this wise know it all nurse because outside of it you

have

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no

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other basis to have any self esteem at all do you? You have to keep up

your

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appearances after all, don't you? Better you to keep up your image of
yourself than to really help people get well, isn't it? You have no

shame

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do

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you?--rb

> > You couldn't tell I was being
> > sarcastic?
>
> You presented somebody else's words instead of your own because you

don't

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> know what you're talking about. [Seems you make a habit out of

doing

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that.
> Pity.] Hardly "sarcasm". Look it up -- unless you're as unfamiliar

with

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a
> dictionary as you are with an anatomy text.
>
> > Where's your reading comprehension skills you twit?
>
> Plagiarizing, lying, & unable to support your POV -- nope, no

problem

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> comprehending your pathetic behavior. Backpedaling doesn't change

it.

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Now Nursie know it all, I didn't "plagarise" nor lie and did indeed

support

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my POV and did not backpedal at all. --rb

Another lie. You have repeatedly copied the words of others. You

backpedal

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constantly -- "I was being sarcastic", "I was joking" -- as if anybody
can't see through such nonsense.

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> > Get off this board you anti alter. Go away. Leave us alone.

This

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NG

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> is
> > for us, not you guys.--rb
>
> Your frustration is showing, rb. It's nobody's fault but yours that
you've
> been shown to be a know-nothing & completely unaware of what's going

on

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> around you.

Speaking of yourself again?--rb

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Sounds more like twits like you nursie know it all!--rb

Your reference to "This NG is for us, not you guys" is one of
> your funniest lines of all -- get used to the idea that this NG is

for

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> anybody who feels like being here. You can utilize your kill

file --

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ignore
> the posters who peg you for the moron you are -- or keep on being

the

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> Simpleton of the Year you've been so far.

I think you're the simpleton and I'm right, you are.--rb

If you can't handle any of those
> choices, there's always a rope & a rafter for ya somewhere.

If I were Fred I'd suspect I'd gladly take the rope and rafter and

hang

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you on it.--rb

It's probably a good thing that you're as sharp as a bowling ball & as
bright as a 4 watt bulb -- you might actually be able to infect others

with

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your twisted views WRT religion & health care if you weren't so stupid

that

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most people spot you for a misguided loon pretty quickly.

You must mean people like you who have been thoroughly brainwashed at
these drug company "educational"seminars?--rb

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[And BTW, you could never be Fred -- I would never married an

unintelligent,

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bigoted man like you. Life is far too short to be that bored.]

Well if Fred was any good he wouldn't be a brainless turd from the

pmic.--rb

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Would you please massage that bone in the center of your head. You

know,

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where your brain should be.

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Gee, now all can see exactly where rb's coming from. The resentment &
bitterness he has directed toward those who are educated & intelligent

oozes

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from every pore of his body.

Thats the way "YOU" see it. Wrong as per usual.--rb

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His views of equating knowledge with elitism shows he resents his own

lack

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of knowledge. His inability to show anyone that he has any factual
information about the topics he discusses leave him angry. Unable to do
more than stew about all the people who are smarter than he (MOST here),

he

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spews his religious bigotry, lies about what he knows, takes other

people's

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words as his own because he's too dull witted to come up with anything,

&

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rants that those who don't go along with his game of "rb's Make Believe"
should go elsewhere to post.

I hope rb finds a nice quiet place where he can calm down, let go of his
feelings of frustration WRT his inadequacies, & maybe understand why his
deity has "been of no use" to him in MHA. <G>

Your God is dead! Mine is alive! Your's is useless, mine is not! I
believe in my God! You don't put much weight by your's at all! Your God is
worthless! Mine isn't! He's been of great use to me! --rb

OVERALL I HAVE TO SAY.......
Sheesh, get to know me. On second thought don't bother. Lady, you
seriously have your head so far up inside yourself that it's a wonder.

With

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uneducated uninformed nurses like you around it's no wonder the US public

is

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losing confidence in the US health care system! They may as well be

saying,

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here we sit, broken hearted, paid a fortune and only farted, as regards to
the "Health care" they've received as compared to the "Health care

dollars"

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they've spent for almost nothing. I daresay you've caused 10% of it
yourself. You've got to stop listening to the propaganda that your drug
company rep of an heroised husband is telling you. For shame. Get that

rope

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and hang him. --rb

LOLOLOLOLOL!! Fred -- a drug rep??????? You're deluded, bigoted, & no
doubt the one of the most uninformed people here on MHA. If you can
actually find out any accurate information about anything it would be a
first. Try, okay?

[Fred -- a drug rep -- wiping tears of laughter from my eyes -- thanks for
the laughs, rb!]

Michele
I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

--

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mean

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know you have a bone in your head for a brain.--rb

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organised medicine rip off everybody and do you know nursie idiot you are
aiding and abetting it you half witted dupe, all this despite your

supposed

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knowledge of A & P which you think makes you one of the elite-( your just

a

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wee little nursie you know)-who can feel better than and talk down to

those

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who don't know the names etc of this and that. An attitude of I'm so
important, look what i know.
This feeling of superiority you have over the ignorant masses-(whom you
purport to help while really holding them in barely concealed

contempt)-has

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filled you with such loathsome pride and arrogance that your ego has

become

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so puffed up that it won't allow you to see the truth about the means and
methods of pharmaceuticals to maximise profits which is their main reason
for existence over all other considerations versus alternative medicines
proven efficacious treatments for all sorts of things that conventional
medicine with all their drugs etc can't even come close to reversing. So

the

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reason you won't believe in alternative med is because you would have to
admit you are a fool and a wee mere nursie that wasn't all that superior
after all, isn't it? You have to grimly fight to hang on to your image of
yourself as this wise know it all nurse because outside of it you have no
other basis to have any self esteem at all do you? You have to keep up

your

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appearances after all, don't you? Better you to keep up your image of
yourself than to really help people get well, isn't it? You have no shame

do

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you?--rb

Tired of slandering Jews, now? Time offend nurses, too? Is there no limit to
your bigotry? For your information, your life may someday depend on some
"little nursie" knowing what to do, and how and when to do it. When you get
your chelation, who do you think is going to start your intravenous line? Do
you imagine that a doctor is going to do EECP for you without the assistance
of educated, skilled nurses? As for knowledge, with your lack of even junior
high level science, you wouldn't have a ghost of a chance of getting into a
nursing education program, but if you did, you wouldn't last two weeks with
your attitude. Nurses know far more than you can possibly imagine. And they
work brutal hours on all shifts for low pay because they care about helping
people. You think you have the right to belittle nurses because your
half-baked altie theories have been challenged? You don't have the right to
kiss a nurses shoe, you little insignificant [censored] ant.

--Rich

| > rb took a dump and left us with..
| >
| > a lot of ignorant hateful horse [censored].
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| Rich Shewmaker responded...
|
| Tired of slandering Jews, now? Time [to] offend
| nurses, too? Is there no limit to your bigotry?
| For your information, your life may someday
| depend on some "little nursie" knowing what to
| do, and how and when to do it. When you get
| your chelation, who do you think is going to
| start your intravenous line? Do you imagine
| that a doctor is going to do EECP for you
| without the assistance of educated, skilled
| nurses? As for knowledge, with your lack of
| even junior high level science, you wouldn't
| have a ghost of a chance of getting into a
| nursing education program, but if you did,
| you wouldn't last two weeks with your attitude.
| Nurses know far more than you can possibly
| imagine. And they work brutal hours on all shifts
| for low pay because they care about helping
| people. You think you have the right to belittle
| nurses because your half-baked altie theories
| have been challenged? You don't have the right
| to kiss a nurses shoe, you little insignificant [censored] ant.
|
| --Rich
| ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks, Rich. I pity the nurses who will have
to care for this twisted waste of protoplasm
when he finds himself in the hospital...
Fortunately for him the nurses WILL care for
him no matter what his prejudices are.

If he remains competent he will be free to
refuse care, though I doubt he will. However
when he becomes mentally incompetent (legally,
that is) EEEEEEEEVIL organized medicine will
have him just where they want him... in their
clutches. Unless, of course, EMS doesn't
get him there in time.

I wonder, is there ANY group of people on
whom this guy wouldn't spew bile? Aside
from alties, of course.

Regards,
Snidely

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
From: "Snidely F Whiplash" [email hidden]
Date: 7/17/2003 11:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
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| > rb took a dump and left us with.

That; says about all I need to know about you. Yout momma would be so proud!!

Jan

Jan

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Subject: Re: A vote for Mark
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Date: 7/17/2003 11:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
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| > rb took a dump and left us with.

That; says about all I need to know about you. Yout momma would be so proud!!

Boy-oh-boy, Jan, you let rubber brain off the hook after his diatribe
with a kindly admonition, and here you really bash Rich for telling it
like it is.