Re: 15-miler

Dan Cosley said:

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"kramer" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Okay, I have bumped my one hour ride from 13 to 15 miles.

For most beginners, I think bumping your 1 hour ride up to 2 hours is better
training than a faster 1 hour ride.

Why's that?

-- Dan

I think it would be hard to make a judgement not knowing anything about
the rider.

Dan Cosley said:

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Okay, I have bumped my one hour ride from 13 to 15 miles.

For most beginners, I think bumping your 1 hour ride up to 2 hours is better
training than a faster 1 hour ride.

Why's that?

-- Dan

What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours easily
but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride for one hour
then come back to the house and down about a half gallon of water on a
hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and repeat, sometimes all day.
That gets me in shape faster than any other one method I have tried, but
it may be a personal thing, getting up to near max HR for an hour, then
rest, repeat, etc. Something else might work better for someone younger.
I am not a trainer, so take this with a grain of salt.
Bill Baka

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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride
for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and
repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half hour
from home is that it?

Mike Latondresse said:

bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride
for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and
repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half hour
from home is that it?

That sounds *really* boring.

I don't know about that age dis. I was in my mid-40's when I got back
into riding. I worked up to 50-60 mile rides pretty quickly (couple of
months), did a century in about 6 months. If you don't have any medical
issues, this sort of progress seems pretty modest.

Mike Latondresse said:

bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride
for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and
repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half

hour

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from home is that it?

Nothing really wrong with that. I live next to a 2300 ft, 8 mile climb
and I do this sort of thing often.

Tom

"Mike Latondresse" <mikelat@no_spam_shaw.ca> wrote in message
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bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride
for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and
repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half hour
from home is that it?

Thats kind of funny I was thinking the same thing. 100 mile rides never more
than a half hour from home.

Ken

Ken said:

"Mike Latondresse" <mikelat@no_spam_shaw.ca> wrote in message
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bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I

ride

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for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go

and

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repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half

hour

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from home is that it?

Thats kind of funny I was thinking the same thing. 100 mile rides

never more

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than a half hour from home.

Ken

That Bill must ride in circles all the time explains a lot.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Mike Latondresse said:

bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride
for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and
repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half hour
from home is that it?

At least two hours and well out of cell phone range. That means about 30
miles of crappy gravel and pavement combined. Pavement is easy, but the
thick gravel is a [censored], sometimes like sand. Look at a map, someday,
and see how much it is to get all the way around Beale AFB. I assume you
know how to get a map on line. From the falls it doesn't matter whether
I come back north of the base or south, it is about 30 miles either way.
Bill Baka

Peter Cole said:

Mike Latondresse said:

bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride
for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and
repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half hour
from home is that it?

That sounds *really* boring.

I don't know about that age dis. I was in my mid-40's when I got back
into riding. I worked up to 50-60 mile rides pretty quickly (couple of
months), did a century in about 6 months. If you don't have any medical
issues, this sort of progress seems pretty modest.

True.
50-60 miles on pavement is no big deal except for finding someplace
interesting to go. I didn't start this as a plan but took my bike to
work so I could ride around a mountain at lunch time, 8 miles with about
a 1,000 foot climb every day. I started out slow, lost weight, gained
strength and speed and was exploring every place possible to ride after
work within about 3 months. This was on the old Huffy that got ragged on
even at work by the resident roadies, but it was better than walking to
McDonalds with the other cubicle residents.
Just do it, by whatever means you can, and it will pay off.

If you ever get bored with road riding you can try my style and take a
MTB to a park/preserve and try 20-30 miles on trails of dirt or gravel
and it will feel like a lot more.
Any exercise is good exercise.
Bill Baka

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Mike Latondresse said:

bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride
for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and
repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half

hour

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from home is that it?

Nothing really wrong with that. I live next to a 2300 ft, 8 mile climb
and I do this sort of thing often.

Tom

My 6 mile rides are around some farm fields that make a 6 mile rectangle
so that is my close to home riding. I have to go at least ten miles to
get into the rolling hills and after 5 miles of up/down/repeat I get to
the actual uphill grind of only 950 feet but it too is up and down,
mostly up. Lots of trees for shade if I do want to stop and have a drink
so I can do it even when it tops 100 around here, which is normal in the
summer. From May to September I just have to commit to the fact I am
going to need a shower and carry a lot of water.
Bill Baka

Ken said:

"Mike Latondresse" <mikelat@no_spam_shaw.ca> wrote in message
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bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I ride
for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go and
repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half hour
from home is that it?

Thats kind of funny I was thinking the same thing. 100 mile rides never more
than a half hour from home.

Ken

Wrong.
I might accumulate 100 miles in 6 mile segments if I need to be near
home for a possible business call but otherwise I go out to about 40
miles away, ride around there some, and then head back.
There are no fixed courses so it just depends on what is happening that day.
Bill Baka

Bob said:

Ken said:

"Mike Latondresse" <mikelat@no_spam_shaw.ca> wrote in message
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bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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>What age group? A 25 year old might make the change to 2 hours
>easily but a 50 year old might have to work up to it. At 56 I

ride

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>for one hour then come back to the house and down about a half
>gallon of water on a hot day. 15 minutes of cool down and I go

and

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Quoted message said:

>repeat, sometimes all day.

So Bill on your epic all day rides you are never more than a half

hour

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

from home is that it?

Thats kind of funny I was thinking the same thing. 100 mile rides

never more

Quoted message said:

than a half hour from home.

Ken

That Bill must ride in circles all the time explains a lot.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

I'm from Chicago. Maybe that explains it. One of those midwestern hicks.
Bill Baka

bbaka <[email hidden]> wrote in
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If you ever get bored with road riding you can try my style and
take a MTB to a park/preserve and try 20-30 miles on trails of
dirt or gravel and it will feel like a lot more.
Any exercise is good exercise.
Bill Baka

Yeah we don't have any of that in Vancouver.