Ray Mears

Paul Simonite <[email hidden]> wrote

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How far did they say they had to go for a box of matches? 15 miles, I
think....
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Gordon

I thought they said 15 days? Looking forward to my new NHS hearing aid
- if it ever arrives :-(

Pardon? ;-)
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Gordon

Jim Ford said:

I don't know about you, but whenever I see Ray Mears on the box I
always think that he looks too 'soft' and pudgey to do a lot of
energetic treking!

This hasn't escaped Jack Dee's attention, just a few moments ago he just
made some jokes about the size of his [censored] and the fact that he goes to
all these places without any food and comes back fatter than before he
left.

Paul
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@wildwales.fsnet.co.uk says...

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Jim Ford said:

I don't know about you, but whenever I see Ray Mears on the box I
always think that he looks too 'soft' and pudgey to do a lot of
energetic treking!

This hasn't escaped Jack Dee's attention, just a few moments ago he just
made some jokes about the size of his [censored] and the fact that he goes to
all these places without any food and comes back fatter than before he
left.

hmmm. I chuckled.

but unfortunately Jo 'chip on the shoulder' Brand is now on stage :-(

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Darren

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:02:41 +0100, Paul Simonite
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| from [email hidden] (Chris Malcolm) contains these words:
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| > I recall discussing the kitchen skills and practices of different
| > cultures with a Thai student of mine. He regretted not having learnt
| > the wonderful skills of his grandmother, now dead.
|
| Quite right too. There has to be a middle ground whereby native indians
| or any other relatively undiluted culture can benefit from Western
| technology without losing all of their traditional skills. I still
| think that Ray has the idea that it would be better if all western ways
| were denied the indians.

I think it would be best if computers were denied to the Brits. Hmmmm

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Dave F

Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote

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Jim Ford said:

I don't know about you, but whenever I see Ray Mears on the box I
always think that he looks too 'soft' and pudgey to do a lot of
energetic treking!

This hasn't escaped Jack Dee's attention, just a few moments ago he just
made some jokes about the size of his [censored] and the fact that he goes to
all these places without any food and comes back fatter than before he
left.

Yes, I was going to mention that, and he had a go at something else
relevant to the group, but I forget what it was now...... :-(

Jo Brand is past her sell-by date, or at least her 'brand' of humour
gets tedious at times.
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Gordon

Dave Fawthrop said:

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:02:41 +0100, Paul Simonite
<[email hidden]> wrote:

| The message <[email hidden]>
| from [email hidden] (Chris Malcolm) contains these words:
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| > I recall discussing the kitchen skills and practices of different
| > cultures with a Thai student of mine. He regretted not having learnt
| > the wonderful skills of his grandmother, now dead.
|
| Quite right too. There has to be a middle ground whereby native indians
| or any other relatively undiluted culture can benefit from Western
| technology without losing all of their traditional skills. I still
| think that Ray has the idea that it would be better if all western ways
| were denied the indians.

I think it would be best if computers were denied to the Brits. Hmmmm

Given that a Brit invented the computer [1] and later the first
electronic one was built in Britain [2] I think we can say that they
are indigenous to our culture.

[1] Thomas Babbage.
[2] Used at Bletchley Park to break the German "Enigma" code.
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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<[email hidden]> writes

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Dave Fawthrop said:

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:02:41 +0100, Paul Simonite
<[email hidden]> wrote:

| The message <[email hidden]>
| from [email hidden] (Chris Malcolm) contains these words:
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| > I recall discussing the kitchen skills and practices of different
| > cultures with a Thai student of mine. He regretted not having learnt
| > the wonderful skills of his grandmother, now dead.
|
| Quite right too. There has to be a middle ground whereby native indians
| or any other relatively undiluted culture can benefit from Western
| technology without losing all of their traditional skills. I still
| think that Ray has the idea that it would be better if all western ways
| were denied the indians.

I think it would be best if computers were denied to the Brits. Hmmmm

Given that a Brit invented the computer [1] and later the first
electronic one was built in Britain [2] I think we can say that they
are indigenous to our culture.

[1] Thomas Babbage.
[2] Used at Bletchley Park to break the German "Enigma" code.

Sorry to be a pedant but the machines used against enigma were Bombes
(not computers). The Colossus programmable computer was used against
Fish the Baudot code based teleprinter coding machine.

Cheers

Guy
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Lighting Design Video Projects Technical Direction Consultancy

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Jim Ford <[email hidden]> wrote

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Hi.

I don't know about you, but whenever I see Ray Mears on the box I always
think that he looks too 'soft' and pudgey to do a lot of energetic

treking!

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I don't doubt his knowledge and expertise, but he'd be more convincing to

me

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if he had a 'stringy' Paul Hogan look!

What do you think?

I think Paul Hogan is a two-movie actor.

You didn't see Croc Dundee III then. With the face lift that put his eye
brows somewhere over the crown of his head. I know he was looking a little
craggy, but that face lift looked ridiculous. And don't start me on the
scene with Mike Tyson. It was hard to work out who was the most wooden.

Mind you, I quite liked Lightning Jack (pre-face lift movie).

Have fun,
Paul

Do you play Quake 3?

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Sorry to follow up my own post but I see that I wasn't quite accurate
either! Fish was the name given (by the British) to the code (cipher
actually) mentioned above but not the machine which was known as
Hellscreiber (sp)

Hellschreiber presumably.
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:27:01 +0100, Gordon wrote:

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Jo Brand is past her sell-by date, or at least her 'brand' of humour
gets tedious at times.

ISTR the late Sir Peter Medawar saying that one of his great fears as he
grew older was that one day he would become too infirm to rise from his
chair to switch off The Archers the moment the dreaded theme was heard.
Ditto Brand in my case.

saki

saki <[email hidden]> wrote

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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:27:01 +0100, Gordon wrote:

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Jo Brand is past her sell-by date, or at least her 'brand' of humour
gets tedious at times.

ISTR the late Sir Peter Medawar saying that one of his great fears as he
grew older was that one day he would become too infirm to rise from his
chair to switch off The Archers the moment the dreaded theme was heard.
Ditto Brand in my case.

LOL! I just clicked the Dum-dee-dumm-dee-dumm-ddee-dumm off about 20
minutes ago!
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Gordon

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saki <[email hidden]> wrote

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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 09:27:01 +0100, Gordon wrote:

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Jo Brand is past her sell-by date, or at least her 'brand' of humour
gets tedious at times.

ISTR the late Sir Peter Medawar saying that one of his great fears as he
grew older was that one day he would become too infirm to rise from his
chair to switch off The Archers the moment the dreaded theme was heard.
Ditto Brand in my case.

LOL! I just clicked the Dum-dee-dumm-dee-dumm-ddee-dumm off about 20
minutes ago!

Straight after Hitchhikers. I heard the first 2 minutes before my
darling wife informed me dinner was ready. I finished eating just as
the archers tune started.

It's lucky that they put all radio available on line these days!!

BTW, have you noticed they have rehashed the old infocom game on the
radio4 web site. Many a lightyear wasted on that when younger!
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Darren

Darren G <[email hidden]> wrote

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Straight after Hitchhikers. I heard the first 2 minutes before my
darling wife informed me dinner was ready. I finished eating just as
the archers tune started.

It's lucky that they put all radio available on line these days!!

BTW, have you noticed they have rehashed the old infocom game on the
radio4 web site. Many a lightyear wasted on that when younger!

Err, no - I don't know that one...
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Gordon

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Of course Ray's point is that the lower-tech the better. The method he
showed didn't need string (which would have to be bought, or
time-consumingly made, and would probably rot in the jungle). As the bow
drill method would not have been indigenous there, it's probably not the
best technique.

His own low tech method was the best - a lighter and strip of inner
tube.
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Darren G said:

Straight after Hitchhikers.

Damn, that's the second time I forgot! I'm just not used to this radio
thing...

....and I actually own a radio now, in the form of this freeview box.

Paul
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Damn, that's the second time I forgot! I'm just not used to this radio
thing...

Still on the website. Just listened to it :-)

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@wildwales.fsnet.co.uk says...

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Darren G said:

Straight after Hitchhikers.

Damn, that's the second time I forgot! I'm just not used to this radio
thing...

...and I actually own a radio now, in the form of this freeview box.

they are all on the radio 4 website to listen to at your pleasure

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Darren

Darren G said:

they are all on the radio 4 website to listen to at your pleasure

Really? And what do I need to have installed to listen to it? Real
Player or some [censored] like that? I've never had a lot of success
"playing" things from websites.

Paul
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http://www.wildwales.fsnet.co.uk

Darren G said:

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Darren G said:

they are all on the radio 4 website to listen to at your pleasure

Really? And what do I need to have installed to listen to it? Real
Player or some [censored] like that? I've never had a lot of success
"playing" things from websites.

the basic service is in real player (and all the cr*p that it installs
along with itself). There is windows media player option though, but
this is only for with broadband (but it is in 5.1 surround sound &
sounds superb)

There are alternatives to Real Player. Like this one,

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm
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Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:19:25 +0100, "Ken"
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As for me, I like what he does for two reasons. Firstly, becuase he

teaches

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bushcraft, not survival (one is voluntary and fun), and secondly, because

he

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teaches reliance on knowledge, rather than gadgets. Which has had the
practical benefit of reducing my weekend pack size from 60L to 32L.

Wow, that's a big reduction! What items were you able to remove?

Tent mostly. But also all that spare stuff that I've now got confidence to
go without.