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  1. I am 51 years old, male, 5 foot 9 inches tall and weight 282lbs. I
    wasn't always like this. Seven years ago I weight 165 lbs. I had
    plenty of energy and I was one of those guys that just never stopped.

    All my problems started when I had my gall bladder removed. The doctor
    nicked something inside and after the operation, in recovery I was
    bleeding internally. By the time they reacted to it I had almosr bled
    to death. I ended up having to spend 3 nights in intensive care, I had
    a transfusion, collasped lung and I was loaded with blood. My entire
    right side looked like one big bruise.

    I never got my strength back after that. I went from a guy who never
    stopped to a guy who couldn't walk down the driveway without gasping
    for air.

    My doctor told me this was normal for what I had been thru and that in
    time I would get my stength back. Well I never did. Instead I started
    gaining weight like crazy. I went to the doctor and told him my weight
    was out of control. I was almost 200 lbs and had been trying to lose
    weight since about 175 lbs.

    The doctor didn't say much except to say that I should eat less.I told
    him I was always exhausted and he actually told me to go to bed
    earlier.

    At that point I was gaing about 5 lbs a month. Monthly I went in to
    see the doctor and I complained about being short of breath and tired
    and the constant weight gain.

    When I reached 225lbs he told me my weight was out of control and I
    should do something about it!!!! Like he just discovered I was having
    a problem.

    Anyways today I have diabeties and sleep apneia and high cholesterol.
    The amazing thing is that my blood pressure is perfect.

    I am on lipitor, actos, levoxyl and a lasix because I retain fluid. If
    I miss one lasix pill my shoes are tight and my face is fatter and I
    can barely make a fist with my right hand. I have been on lasix since
    the operation.

    I have tried everything. I have been on a diets since I was 175lbs and
    have gained over 100lbs.

    Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

  2. contact a medical mal practice attorney.

    a big firm is best.

    look in the yellow pages of the nearest big city

    you have been injured by medical neglect and have damages.

    best of luck.

    j.

    Thunder7 said:

    I am 51 years old, male, 5 foot 9 inches tall and weight 282lbs. I
    wasn't always like this. Seven years ago I weight 165 lbs. I had
    plenty of energy and I was one of those guys that just never stopped.

    All my problems started when I had my gall bladder removed. The doctor
    nicked something inside and after the operation, in recovery I was
    bleeding internally. By the time they reacted to it I had almosr bled
    to death. I ended up having to spend 3 nights in intensive care, I had
    a transfusion, collasped lung and I was loaded with blood. My entire
    right side looked like one big bruise.

    I never got my strength back after that. I went from a guy who never
    stopped to a guy who couldn't walk down the driveway without gasping
    for air.

    My doctor told me this was normal for what I had been thru and that in
    time I would get my stength back. Well I never did. Instead I started
    gaining weight like crazy. I went to the doctor and told him my weight
    was out of control. I was almost 200 lbs and had been trying to lose
    weight since about 175 lbs.

    The doctor didn't say much except to say that I should eat less.I told
    him I was always exhausted and he actually told me to go to bed
    earlier.

    At that point I was gaing about 5 lbs a month. Monthly I went in to
    see the doctor and I complained about being short of breath and tired
    and the constant weight gain.

    When I reached 225lbs he told me my weight was out of control and I
    should do something about it!!!! Like he just discovered I was having
    a problem.

    Anyways today I have diabeties and sleep apneia and high cholesterol.
    The amazing thing is that my blood pressure is perfect.

    I am on lipitor, actos, levoxyl and a lasix because I retain fluid. If
    I miss one lasix pill my shoes are tight and my face is fatter and I
    can barely make a fist with my right hand. I have been on lasix since
    the operation.

    I have tried everything. I have been on a diets since I was 175lbs and
    have gained over 100lbs.

    Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

  3. [email hidden] (Thunder7) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I am 51 years old, male, 5 foot 9 inches tall and weight 282lbs. I
    wasn't always like this. Seven years ago I weight 165 lbs. I had
    plenty of energy and I was one of those guys that just never stopped.

    All my problems started when I had my gall bladder removed. The doctor
    nicked something inside and after the operation, in recovery I was
    bleeding internally. By the time they reacted to it I had almosr bled
    to death. I ended up having to spend 3 nights in intensive care, I had
    a transfusion, collasped lung and I was loaded with blood. My entire
    right side looked like one big bruise.

    I never got my strength back after that. I went from a guy who never
    stopped to a guy who couldn't walk down the driveway without gasping
    for air.

    My doctor told me this was normal for what I had been thru and that in
    time I would get my stength back. Well I never did. Instead I started
    gaining weight like crazy. I went to the doctor and told him my weight
    was out of control. I was almost 200 lbs and had been trying to lose
    weight since about 175 lbs.

    The doctor didn't say much except to say that I should eat less.I told
    him I was always exhausted and he actually told me to go to bed
    earlier.

    At that point I was gaing about 5 lbs a month. Monthly I went in to
    see the doctor and I complained about being short of breath and tired
    and the constant weight gain.

    When I reached 225lbs he told me my weight was out of control and I
    should do something about it!!!! Like he just discovered I was having
    a problem.

    Anyways today I have diabeties and sleep apneia and high cholesterol.
    The amazing thing is that my blood pressure is perfect.

    I am on lipitor, actos, levoxyl and a lasix because I retain fluid. If
    I miss one lasix pill my shoes are tight and my face is fatter and I
    can barely make a fist with my right hand. I have been on lasix since
    the operation.

    I have tried everything. I have been on a diets since I was 175lbs and
    have gained over 100lbs.

    Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

    Have you had your thyroid checked?

  4. Can this person claim damages?

    "Thunder7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am 51 years old, male, 5 foot 9 inches tall and weight 282lbs. I
    wasn't always like this. Seven years ago I weight 165 lbs. I had
    plenty of energy and I was one of those guys that just never stopped.

    All my problems started when I had my gall bladder removed. The doctor
    nicked something inside and after the operation, in recovery I was
    bleeding internally. By the time they reacted to it I had almosr bled
    to death. I ended up having to spend 3 nights in intensive care, I had
    a transfusion, collasped lung and I was loaded with blood. My entire
    right side looked like one big bruise.

    I never got my strength back after that. I went from a guy who never
    stopped to a guy who couldn't walk down the driveway without gasping
    for air.

    My doctor told me this was normal for what I had been thru and that in
    time I would get my stength back. Well I never did. Instead I started
    gaining weight like crazy. I went to the doctor and told him my weight
    was out of control. I was almost 200 lbs and had been trying to lose
    weight since about 175 lbs.

    The doctor didn't say much except to say that I should eat less.I told
    him I was always exhausted and he actually told me to go to bed
    earlier.

    At that point I was gaing about 5 lbs a month. Monthly I went in to
    see the doctor and I complained about being short of breath and tired
    and the constant weight gain.

    When I reached 225lbs he told me my weight was out of control and I
    should do something about it!!!! Like he just discovered I was having
    a problem.

    Anyways today I have diabeties and sleep apneia and high cholesterol.
    The amazing thing is that my blood pressure is perfect.

    I am on lipitor, actos, levoxyl and a lasix because I retain fluid. If
    I miss one lasix pill my shoes are tight and my face is fatter and I
    can barely make a fist with my right hand. I have been on lasix since
    the operation.

    I have tried everything. I have been on a diets since I was 175lbs and
    have gained over 100lbs.

    Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

  5. HOF said:

    Can this person claim damages?

    For what? All that has been suggested by this person is that "The doctor
    nicked something inside..". He ends up by asking "Does anyone have any
    idea what could be wrong?".

    You will need quite a lot more than that to claim damages. What happened,
    in fact?

  6. I am not looking to sue anyone I just want my health back. My thyroid
    is underactive and I take levoxyl for that.

  7. "Thunder7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am not looking to sue anyone I just want my health back. My thyroid
    is underactive and I take levoxyl for that.

    Then there's the cause of your weight gain and tiredness. You might try
    another Dr. I was being overdosed on Levoxl for my thyroid. The Dr. was
    using the theory that since I was overweight, I needed more of it. This
    actually made me hyperthyroid and totally exhausted. And it also made me
    gain weight. Once I saw a different Dr. and got on the right dose of the
    med, things began to reverse.

    --
    See my webpage:
    http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm

  8. Maybe they can leave the money on his grave.

    "Say not the Struggle nought Availeth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    contact a medical mal practice attorney.

    a big firm is best.

    look in the yellow pages of the nearest big city

    you have been injured by medical neglect and have damages.

    best of luck.

    j.

    Thunder7 said:

    I am 51 years old, male, 5 foot 9 inches tall and weight 282lbs. I
    wasn't always like this. Seven years ago I weight 165 lbs. I had
    plenty of energy and I was one of those guys that just never stopped.

    All my problems started when I had my gall bladder removed. The doctor
    nicked something inside and after the operation, in recovery I was
    bleeding internally. By the time they reacted to it I had almosr bled
    to death. I ended up having to spend 3 nights in intensive care, I had
    a transfusion, collasped lung and I was loaded with blood. My entire
    right side looked like one big bruise.

    I never got my strength back after that. I went from a guy who never
    stopped to a guy who couldn't walk down the driveway without gasping
    for air.

    My doctor told me this was normal for what I had been thru and that in
    time I would get my stength back. Well I never did. Instead I started
    gaining weight like crazy. I went to the doctor and told him my weight
    was out of control. I was almost 200 lbs and had been trying to lose
    weight since about 175 lbs.

    The doctor didn't say much except to say that I should eat less.I told
    him I was always exhausted and he actually told me to go to bed
    earlier.

    At that point I was gaing about 5 lbs a month. Monthly I went in to
    see the doctor and I complained about being short of breath and tired
    and the constant weight gain.

    When I reached 225lbs he told me my weight was out of control and I
    should do something about it!!!! Like he just discovered I was having
    a problem.

    Anyways today I have diabeties and sleep apneia and high cholesterol.
    The amazing thing is that my blood pressure is perfect.

    I am on lipitor, actos, levoxyl and a lasix because I retain fluid. If
    I miss one lasix pill my shoes are tight and my face is fatter and I
    can barely make a fist with my right hand. I have been on lasix since
    the operation.

    I have tried everything. I have been on a diets since I was 175lbs and
    have gained over 100lbs.

    Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong?

  9. You could buy a lot of TOP of the line medical care with a lawsuit
    "Thunder7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am not looking to sue anyone I just want my health back. My thyroid
    is underactive and I take levoxyl for that.

  10. I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according to
    blood tests.
    I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think one
    of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy before I
    had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue somebody. The
    doctors are telling me all my problems are because I am obese but I
    know in my heart I am obese because of all my problems.

    It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have had
    a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood and that
    is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my creatine is
    right in the middle of the normal range.

  11. Usually these cause and effects go together and one will never know which
    came first (the chicken or the egg). Try to rehabilitate yourself and give
    yourself a few years to get back on track, diet, exercise and supplements.
    Di it all and you may find even your mental, physical and sexual state
    improves a lot.

    "Thunder7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according to
    blood tests.
    I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think one
    of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy before I
    had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue somebody. The
    doctors are telling me all my problems are because I am obese but I
    know in my heart I am obese because of all my problems.

    It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have had
    a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood and that
    is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my creatine is
    right in the middle of the normal range.

  12. "Thunder7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am not looking to sue anyone I just want my health back. My thyroid
    is underactive and I take levoxyl for that.

    You didn't mention that before. The gallbladder surgery has nothing to do
    with the thyroid. If it was removed then you probably had symptoms you are
    not mentioning.
    Your medical history telling is confusing in terms of timeline and
    completeness.

    You need to be aware of below although neoplasia's usually show hormone
    excess.

    multiple endocrine neoplasms
    Otolaryngol Clin North Am. 2004 Aug;37(4):715-36, viii. Related Articles,
    Links
    Hyperparathyroidism and multiple endocrine neoplasia.

    Malone JP, Srivastava A, Khardori R.
    Division of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, Southern Illinois
    University School of Medicine, 301 N. 8th Street, Room 5B506, Springfield,
    IL 62701, USA. [email hidden]

    Multiple endocrine neoplasia (MEN) syndromes comprise the group of heritable
    endocrinopathies, MEN 1, MEN 2A, and MEN 2B. Primary hyperparathyroidism
    caused by multiglandular involvement is usually the initial manifestation in
    MEN 1, occurring in more than 90% of patients. In patients with MEN 2A,
    hyperparathyroidism develops less commonly and is usually milder than in MEN
    1. Advances in genetics and molecular biology aid in confirming the
    diagnosis and screening relatives who are carriers or at risk for the
    disease. Surgery plays an important role in the management of
    hyperparathyroidism in both MEN 1 and MEN 2A,although the timing and extent
    of surgery are areas of controversy.Long-term follow-up reveals a high rate
    of recurrent hyperparathyroidism in MEN 1 despite surgical intervention.

  13. "Bystander" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    You could buy a lot of TOP of the line medical care with a lawsuit
    "Thunder7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am not looking to sue anyone I just want my health back. My thyroid
    is underactive and I take levoxyl for that.


    The lawsuit is for blood loss. You get paid for the three days in the ICU.
    The rest is unrelated to the surgery depending on when the surgery was done.

  14. "Thunder7" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according to
    blood tests.
    I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think one
    of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy before I
    had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue somebody. The
    doctors are telling me all my problems are because I am obese but I
    know in my heart I am obese because of all my problems.

    The gallbladder has nothing to do with it. If you were pregnant and had a
    severe hemorrahage then your pituitary might get damaged (pituitary apoplexy
    Sheehans syndrome). That would result in all low hormone levels.

    Quoted message said:


    It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have had
    a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood and that
    is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my creatine is
    right in the middle of the normal range.

    How long ago from the surgery was that done? A very high BUN /creatinine
    ration reflects blood in the GI gut that is being used as a protein source.
    Otherwise it shows a high protein diet.

  15. Thunder7 said:

    I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according to
    blood tests.
    I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think one
    of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy before I
    had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue somebody. The
    doctors are telling me all my problems are because I am obese but I
    know in my heart I am obese because of all my problems.

    It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have had
    a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood and that
    is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my creatine is
    right in the middle of the normal range.

    So, what happened to this bit? "All my problems started when I had my gall
    bladder removed. The doctor nicked something inside...". No evidence of the
    doctor being at fault at all?

    If so, no evidence supporting a claim for damages.

  16. "Galimatias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:3rvxgf7pdw7jdis.071120040829@z...

    Quoted message said:
    Thunder7 said:

    I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according to
    blood tests.
    I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think one
    of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy before I
    had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue somebody. The
    doctors are telling me all my problems are because I am obese but I
    know in my heart I am obese because of all my problems.

    It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have had
    a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood and that
    is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my creatine is
    right in the middle of the normal range.

    So, what happened to this bit? "All my problems started when I had my


    gall

    Quoted message said:

    bladder removed. The doctor nicked something inside...". No evidence of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    doctor being at fault at all?

    If so, no evidence supporting a claim for damages.

    Negligence must be proved on the part of the surgeon. There are many
    consequences that can happen during surgery that are patient dependent.
    Reminds me of a surgeon who was sued after having a young patient die on him
    after surgery was performed. He bleed to death. Another surgeon even
    testified against him from another hospital. It was later determined that
    the 17 year old had genetically weakened arteries that suturing could not
    hold.
    Most of the time it's no harm no foul. You have to prove damages first
    followed by negligence. A person signs off on surgery before hand and what
    they are signing off is normal complications associated with surgery up to
    and including death. Accidents do happen which is why you were seatbealts.

    Quoted message said:
  17. Robert said:

    "Galimatias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:3rvxgf7pdw7jdis.071120040829@z...

    Quoted message said:
    Thunder7 said:

    I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according
    to blood tests.
    I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think
    one of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy
    before I had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue
    somebody. The doctors are telling me all my problems are because I
    am obese but I know in my heart I am obese because of all my
    problems.

    It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have
    had a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood
    and that is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my
    creatine is right in the middle of the normal range.

    So, what happened to this bit? "All my problems started when I had
    my gall bladder removed. The doctor nicked something inside...". No
    evidence of the doctor being at fault at all?

    If so, no evidence supporting a claim for damages.

    Negligence must be proved on the part of the surgeon. There are many
    consequences that can happen during surgery that are patient
    dependent. Reminds me of a surgeon who was sued after having a young
    patient die on him after surgery was performed. He bleed to death.
    Another surgeon even testified against him from another hospital. It
    was later determined that the 17 year old had genetically weakened
    arteries that suturing could not hold.
    Most of the time it's no harm no foul. You have to prove damages first
    followed by negligence.

    Actually, you have to prove liability first, whether breach of contract or
    negligence. If you do that, damages is the second step. Damages without
    liability had no meaning in law.

    Quoted message said:

    A person signs off on surgery before hand and
    what they are signing off is normal complications associated with
    surgery up to and including death. Accidents do happen which is why
    you were seatbealts.

  18. "Galimatias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:3pivepc0dhnzn5p.071120041014@z...

    Quoted message said:
    Robert said:

    "Galimatias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:3rvxgf7pdw7jdis.071120040829@z...

    Quoted message said:

    Thunder7 wrote:
    > I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    > Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according
    > to blood tests.
    > I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think
    > one of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy
    > before I had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue
    > somebody. The doctors are telling me all my problems are because I
    > am obese but I know in my heart I am obese because of all my
    > problems.
    >
    > It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have
    > had a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood
    > and that is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my
    > creatine is right in the middle of the normal range.

    So, what happened to this bit? "All my problems started when I had
    my gall bladder removed. The doctor nicked something inside...". No
    evidence of the doctor being at fault at all?

    If so, no evidence supporting a claim for damages.

    Negligence must be proved on the part of the surgeon. There are many
    consequences that can happen during surgery that are patient
    dependent. Reminds me of a surgeon who was sued after having a young
    patient die on him after surgery was performed. He bleed to death.
    Another surgeon even testified against him from another hospital. It
    was later determined that the 17 year old had genetically weakened
    arteries that suturing could not hold.
    Most of the time it's no harm no foul. You have to prove damages first
    followed by negligence.

    Actually, you have to prove liability first, whether breach of contract or
    negligence. If you do that, damages is the second step. Damages without
    liability had no meaning in law.

    Poor wording on my part, you have to prove you were damaged or hurt first
    not in line with the type of surgery performed and not referring to the
    monetary award you are seeking. Once that is done then you have to prove
    that the doctor was responsible due to lack the poor or lack of standard of
    care. That is the practical way it happens from the first lawyer to finding
    doctors who will testify on your side. They have to say that you were indeed
    hurt first and then determine if that hurt was the direct result of the
    doctor. Then if it is out of line with the type of surgery undertaken.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    A person signs off on surgery before hand and
    what they are signing off is normal complications associated with
    surgery up to and including death. Accidents do happen which is why
    you were seatbealts.

  19. Robert said:

    "Galimatias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:3pivepc0dhnzn5p.071120041014@z...

    Quoted message said:
    Robert said:

    "Galimatias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:3rvxgf7pdw7jdis.071120040829@z...
    > Thunder7 wrote:
    >> I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    >> Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according
    >> to blood tests.
    >> I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think
    >> one of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy
    >> before I had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue
    >> somebody. The doctors are telling me all my problems are because I
    >> am obese but I know in my heart I am obese because of all my
    >> problems.
    >>
    >> It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have
    >> had a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood
    >> and that is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my
    >> creatine is right in the middle of the normal range.
    >
    > So, what happened to this bit? "All my problems started when I
    > had my gall bladder removed. The doctor nicked something
    > inside...". No evidence of the doctor being at fault at all?
    >
    > If so, no evidence supporting a claim for damages.

    Negligence must be proved on the part of the surgeon. There are many
    consequences that can happen during surgery that are patient
    dependent. Reminds me of a surgeon who was sued after having a young
    patient die on him after surgery was performed. He bleed to death.
    Another surgeon even testified against him from another hospital. It
    was later determined that the 17 year old had genetically weakened
    arteries that suturing could not hold.
    Most of the time it's no harm no foul. You have to prove damages
    first followed by negligence.

    Actually, you have to prove liability first, whether breach of
    contract or negligence. If you do that, damages is the second step.
    Damages without liability had no meaning in law.

    Poor wording on my part, you have to prove you were damaged or hurt
    first not in line with the type of surgery performed and not
    referring to the monetary award you are seeking.

    Still not right. The first step is to find a cause of action (in this case,
    either a breach of contract by a specific person or persons, or a tort (a
    civil wrong) by a specific person or persons (probably negligence)). Then
    you can claim your loss from them, measured in $ terms. The mere fact of
    harm being suffered, whether physical or financial, is neither here nor
    there legally, unless you can get someone liable in damages for that cause
    of action.

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    Once that is done
    then you have to prove that the doctor was responsible due to lack
    the poor or lack of standard of care. That is the practical way it
    happens from the first lawyer to finding doctors who will testify on
    your side. They have to say that you were indeed hurt first and then
    determine if that hurt was the direct result of the doctor. Then if
    it is out of line with the type of surgery undertaken.

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    A person signs off on surgery before hand and
    what they are signing off is normal complications associated with
    surgery up to and including death. Accidents do happen which is why
    you were seatbealts.

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    Robert said:

    "Galimatias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Robert wrote:
    > "Galimatias" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:3rvxgf7pdw7jdis.071120040829@z...
    >> Thunder7 wrote:
    >>> I was put on the thyroid medication after the weight gain started.
    >>> Right now my thyroid, under medication, seems to be okay according
    >>> to blood tests.
    >>> I have changed doctors numerous times during this ordeal. I think
    >>> one of the problems is that as soon as I tell them I was healthy
    >>> before I had my gall bladder removed they think I want to sue
    >>> somebody. The doctors are telling me all my problems are because I
    >>> am obese but I know in my heart I am obese because of all my
    >>> problems.
    >>>
    >>> It just seems like my system has shut down for some reason. I have
    >>> had a parathyroid removed for having too much calcium in my blood
    >>> and that is under control now. I have a high BUN reading but my
    >>> creatine is right in the middle of the normal range.
    >>
    >> So, what happened to this bit? "All my problems started when I
    >> had my gall bladder removed. The doctor nicked something
    >> inside...". No evidence of the doctor being at fault at all?
    >>
    >> If so, no evidence supporting a claim for damages.
    >
    > Negligence must be proved on the part of the surgeon. There are many
    > consequences that can happen during surgery that are patient
    > dependent. Reminds me of a surgeon who was sued after having a young
    > patient die on him after surgery was performed. He bleed to death.
    > Another surgeon even testified against him from another hospital. It
    > was later determined that the 17 year old had genetically weakened
    > arteries that suturing could not hold.
    > Most of the time it's no harm no foul. You have to prove damages
    > first followed by negligence.

    Actually, you have to prove liability first, whether breach of
    contract or negligence. If you do that, damages is the second step.
    Damages without liability had no meaning in law.

    Poor wording on my part, you have to prove you were damaged or hurt
    first not in line with the type of surgery performed and not
    referring to the monetary award you are seeking.

    Still not right. The first step is to find a cause of action (in this


    case,

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    either a breach of contract by a specific person or persons, or a tort (a
    civil wrong) by a specific person or persons (probably negligence)). Then
    you can claim your loss from them, measured in $ terms. The mere fact of
    harm being suffered, whether physical or financial, is neither here nor
    there legally, unless you can get someone liable in damages for that cause
    of action.

    You have not sued a doctor before. In legal terms that is correct but in
    practical terms believe it or not the lawyers themselves often tell people
    to seek a medical expert with a letter to be given to the lawyer stating
    that the course of treatment was flawed.
    I had a relative go to a lawyer because a relative went in for surgery on
    the left foot and they wrongly operated on the right foot. The lawyer would
    not even take the case without another doctors letter with regard to the
    case and that relative had to pay out of pocket himself for that opinion.
    The lawyer did not want to take it to trial so that relative told the laywer
    to take a hike because he wanted a high percentage of the award. The
    hospital HMO then said if you get rid of the lawyer we will give you more
    money. He took the money on a settlement that the lawyer originally told
    him to take but by doing it then he got more money and he didn't split it
    with the lawyer.
    Doctors do not like to testify about other doctors and the ones that do are
    very expensive.
    The medical opinion is everything and is the most important thing and
    everything else is dependent on it. You don't have a case without it. The
    lawyering comes in second. Breach of contract means nothing in a medical
    case. It is a medical case first and then you can go for breach or
    negligence. The facts of the case dictate the legal terms. Just my opinion
    and not a legal one either.

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    Once that is done
    then you have to prove that the doctor was responsible due to lack
    the poor or lack of standard of care. That is the practical way it
    happens from the first lawyer to finding doctors who will testify on
    your side. They have to say that you were indeed hurt first and then
    determine if that hurt was the direct result of the doctor. Then if
    it is out of line with the type of surgery undertaken.

    Quoted message said:


    > A person signs off on surgery before hand and
    > what they are signing off is normal complications associated with
    > surgery up to and including death. Accidents do happen which is why
    > you were seatbealts.

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