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  1. CCCC (I'm starting to sound like a CCCC evangelist, despite being a
    BBN member!) ran their second race on a vehicle testing
    ground on Sunday - at the Holden PG at Lang Lang.

    Amazing facility - wanky security guards and warnings about
    cameras - like anyone cares what the next dunnydore will look
    like anyway? But an interesting network of roads including
    a huge banked track. We got to race on the banked track and
    some connecting roads, which made for some very interesting
    racing indeed. 10km laps,Flat course, but yours trully had the 'flu
    and was bloody useless! Overall a very good place to race.

    Them (CCCC) using vehicle testing grounds makes for some
    bloody good race venues.

  2. Carl Brewer said:

    CCCC (I'm starting to sound like a CCCC evangelist, despite being a
    BBN member!) ran their second race on a vehicle testing
    ground on Sunday - at the Holden PG at Lang Lang.

    Amazing facility - wanky security guards and warnings about
    cameras - like anyone cares what the next dunnydore will look
    like anyway? But an interesting network of roads including
    a huge banked track. We got to race on the banked track and
    some connecting roads, which made for some very interesting
    racing indeed. 10km laps,Flat course, but yours trully had the 'flu
    and was bloody useless! Overall a very good place to race.

    Them (CCCC) using vehicle testing grounds makes for some
    bloody good race venues.

    Flat smooth banked track...... gee Carl, didn't you get dizzy riding around in circles?????

  3. Shabby said:

    Flat smooth banked track...... gee Carl, didn't you get dizzy riding around in circles?????

    How many laps to go? Hippy?? er, um, 27? 3?

    can one enter this race in a Ute? (holden of course) 😄

  4. Shabby said:

    Flat smooth banked track...... gee Carl, didn't you get dizzy riding
    around in circles?????

    We didn't just ride around in circles. The track was maybe 4km on the
    *huge* banked track, and 6km on the connecting roads. Imagine
    a really big version of METEC.

    And by golly, a lot of B graders don't know how to ride quickly
    through tight corners or over muddy road or railway
    lines (the course has 2 railway crossings! They're simulated,
    ie: just 4 bits of train track, no actual railway goes through there)
    Riders were slowing down over the train tracks, every lap I'd
    get 3 or 4 bikelengths up the bunch at the crossings as they
    all slowed down for it! Same for the muddy road just before we
    turned back onto the banked track.

  5. Carl Brewer said:


    Shabby said:

    Flat smooth banked track...... gee Carl, didn't you get dizzy riding
    around in circles?????

    We didn't just ride around in circles. The track was maybe 4km on the
    *huge* banked track, and 6km on the connecting roads. Imagine
    a really big version of METEC.

    And by golly, a lot of B graders don't know how to ride quickly
    through tight corners or over muddy road or railway
    lines (the course has 2 railway crossings! They're simulated,
    ie: just 4 bits of train track, no actual railway goes through there)
    Riders were slowing down over the train tracks, every lap I'd
    get 3 or 4 bikelengths up the bunch at the crossings as they
    all slowed down for it! Same for the muddy road just before we
    turned back onto the banked track.

    Maybe they weren't locals. In Brisbane, only tourists know how to deal
    with wet weather or mud. The locals just hide indoors.

    Tam

  6. Carl Brewer said:

    wanky security guards and warnings about
    cameras - like anyone cares what the next dunnydore will look
    like anyway?


    Oh they care all right. I've a colleague who used to work at Holden. Someone took a picture of the next Commadore and posted it on the web, next thing Holden knew sales on Commadores nose dived for six months 'cause everyone wanted the new one.
    --
    Cheers
    Euan

  7. EuanB said:


    Carl Brewer said:

    wanky security guards and warnings about
    cameras - like anyone cares what the next dunnydore will look
    like anyway?


    Oh they care all right. I've a colleague who used to work at Holden.
    Someone took a picture of the next Commadore and posted it on the web,
    next thing Holden knew sales on Commadores nose dived for six months
    'cause everyone wanted the new one.

    It's still just a shopping trolley. [censored] 🙂

  8. Carl Brewer said:

    On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:00:43 +1000, EuanB

    Quoted message said:


    Carl Brewer said:

    wanky security guards and warnings about
    cameras - like anyone cares what the next dunnydore will look
    like anyway?


    Oh they care all right. I've a colleague who used to work at Holden.
    Someone took a picture of the next Commadore and posted it on the web,
    next thing Holden knew sales on Commadores nose dived for six months
    'cause everyone wanted the new one.

    It's still just a shopping trolley. [censored] 🙂

    It is bizarre that we live in a culture where the favorite car for an 18 yr old man is one of the two family cars!

    That or rallying a white '79 mazda 323

  9. Carl Brewer said:

    CCCC (I'm starting to sound like a CCCC evangelist, despite being a
    BBN member!) ran their second race on a vehicle testing
    ground on Sunday - at the Holden PG at Lang Lang.

    Amazing facility -
    Them (CCCC) using vehicle testing grounds makes for some
    bloody good race venues.

    Carl who is CCCC?
    Lang Lang was the site of the last attempt at the Australian HPV speed record in 1984.
    Steele Bishop "only" got to 78kmh in a fully faired vehicle before the outrigger wheels caught fire!
    alphalink.com.auhpv.html

    In comparison the current world HPV record for 200m is 129kmh (Sam Whittington - Battle Mountain 2002) http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/whpsc2004/speedchallenge-2004.htm

    It would be good to have a go at the record again some time if Lang Lang is available for events.

    Pete

  10. Poiter said:

    Carl who is CCCC?
    Lang Lang was the site of the last attempt at the Australian HPV speed record in 1984.
    Steele Bishop "only" got to 78kmh in a fully faired vehicle before the outrigger wheels caught fire!
    alphalink.com.auhpv.html

    In comparison the current world HPV record for 200m is 129kmh (Sam Whittington - Battle Mountain 2002) http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/whpsc2004/speedchallenge-2004.htm

    It would be good to have a go at the record again some time if Lang Lang is available for events.

    Pete

    Caulfield-Carnegie Cycling Club

    78kph? you sure? Alajet hits low 70's in the sprints on tour regularly...

    F"62kph.once"Dutch

  11. flyingdutch said:


    Poiter said:

    Carl who is CCCC?
    Lang Lang was the site of the last attempt at the Australian HPV speed
    record in 1984.
    Steele Bishop "only" got to 78kmh in a fully faired vehicle before the
    outrigger wheels caught fire!
    http://www.alphalink.com.au/%7Eferret/hpv.html

    In comparison the current world HPV record for 200m is 129kmh (Sam
    Whittington - Battle Mountain 2002)
    http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/whpsc2004/speedchallenge-2004.htm

    It would be good to have a go at the record again some time if Lang
    Lang is available for events.

    Pete

    Caulfield-Carnegie Cycling Club

    78kph? you sure? Alajet hits low 70's in the sprints on tour
    regularly...

    But not for very long, and the difference between 70 and 78km/h is
    a *lot*.

    We got the greenspeed "beserk" HPV up to 60 pretty
    easily around the BBN velodrome one afternoon, with a bunch
    of untrained (in HPV's with 105mm cranks) road riders.
    It should be capable of around 80 or so, judging by the
    drag coefficient it had *before* we destroyed it at Wonthaggi!

  12. flyingdutch said:
    Poiter said:

    Carl who is CCCC?
    Lang Lang was the site of the last attempt at the Australian HPV speed
    record in 1984.
    Steele Bishop "only" got to 78kmh in a fully faired vehicle before the
    outrigger wheels caught fire!
    http://www.alphalink.com.au/%7Eferret/hpv.html

    In comparison the current world HPV record for 200m is 129kmh (Sam
    Whittington - Battle Mountain 2002)
    http://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/whpsc2004/speedchallenge-2004.htm

    It would be good to have a go at the record again some time if Lang
    Lang is available for events.

    Pete

    Caulfield-Carnegie Cycling Club

    78kph? you sure? Alajet hits low 70's in the sprints on tour
    regularly...

    F"62kph.once"Dutch


    Greetings,
    Absolutely sure. 78.91 km/h, on the flat no assistance, I was there.
    Regards,
    Ray.

  13. Ray Peace said:

    Greetings,
    Absolutely sure. 78.91 km/h, on the flat no assistance, I was there.
    Regards,
    Ray.

    and that was the record?
    those wooly socks are very bad aerodynamically 😄
    Im amazed that a lowslung faired bent couldnt beat that.
    Put a chris Hoy on one (in fact i think they did this recently with the UK pursuit team versus one guy on a bent and the 'bent' passed em after 1.5k...) and i recon you'd give it a shake, easy peazy.

    a couple of 'Alpines' ago i got passed (blown off the road would describe it better) by a guy absolutely flying on this incredibly sexy CF 'bent' thingy.
    i think i was sitting on about 85kph at the time and he past me as if i was standing still! Mind you we woz flyin down Falls at the time... 🙄

  14. flyingdutch said:


    Ray Peace said:

    Greetings,
    Absolutely sure. 78.91 km/h, on the flat no assistance, I was there.
    Regards,
    Ray.

    and that was the record?
    those wooly socks are very bad aerodynamically 😄

    And the beard and big flag on a post!

  15. On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:05:37 +1000, Carl Brewer <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    CCCC (I'm starting to sound like a CCCC evangelist, despite being a
    BBN member!) ran their second race on a vehicle testing
    ground on Sunday - at the Holden PG at Lang Lang.

    Amazing facility - wanky security guards and warnings about
    cameras - like anyone cares what the next dunnydore will look
    like anyway? But an interesting network of roads including
    a huge banked track. We got to race on the banked track and
    some connecting roads, which made for some very interesting
    racing indeed. 10km laps,Flat course, but yours trully had the 'flu
    and was bloody useless! Overall a very good place to race.

    Them (CCCC) using vehicle testing grounds makes for some
    bloody good race venues.

    photos & race report are online now (Mal Sawford does a great job ...)

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/AUS/2005/jun05/jun19carnegiecc

  16. Carl Brewer said:


    photos & race report are online now (Mal Sawford does a great job ...)
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/road.php?id=road/AUS/2005/jun05/jun19carnegiecc

    Is that you 'holden' on in this photo Carl? #9

    tinyurl.comcwl6d

    That banking looks pretty cool, and a nice wide finish line that's for sure!

    Adam

    [censored] joke-
    Sailboat hire operator: "Come in number 9, your time is up! Hang on, number 6 are you in trouble?!"

  17. adam85 said:


    Carl Brewer said:


    photos & race report are online now (Mal Sawford does a great job ...)
    http://tinyurl.com/ahg63

    Is that you 'holden' on in this photo Carl? #9

    yep. You can also spot another aboc'er in one of the
    other shots if you look closely

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