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  1. NYC, Hot Chocolate 15K / 9.3Mi, NYRR.

    Gorgeous blue skies in NYC this morning...the air was crisp and cold. 32
    Degrees F. Most of the leaves have fallen in Cental Park so things are
    starting to look rather barren. Other than the NYC marathon I had not raced
    in 2 months so it was nice to get back in the standard groove of my running
    club, seeing the familiar faces, your "week-in-week-out" people you know
    you're going to be battling with in that final mile, etc. At the start I saw a
    couple fo Donovan's teammates and asked if he was there....I could not spot him
    and his teammates had no idea. One of his teammates did say to me Donnie's
    laying low until this Balco thing blows over. I understood. *joke alert*
    that is a joke people....ha ha ha...For those that don't know...Donovan is a
    strict microbiotic vegan or some [censored] like that. I myself am a fish eating
    vegetarian....but Donnie is something fare more extreme than me! I figured
    Donnie's holding back to blow his load (strictly speaking so to speak of
    course) at next weeks 10K. Back to the race.

    OK it's cold. I have on a NB coolmax longsleeve shirt, asics shorts, knit cap
    & gloves, coolmax socks & my nb 700s flats. This race was at the boarder line
    gear wise for me. 32F. Had it been 5 degrees or so cooler, I might have
    worn a light jacket, perhaps a thermal top, perhaps tights. 5 degrees
    warmer, i never would have had on the cap or gloves. this race started at the
    freezing point or what for me is the boarder line. Many were geared up like
    me....of the competitive runners....a few had on tights....a few tank
    singlets...most gloves...a few no cap at all. Race starts...reflected on how
    I had not ran in 3 days.....I'm feeling good and light. Had not ran in 3
    days.....was glad to be racing.

    When I race I want to latch on to a rail. A familair comfort mechanism or
    "zone trigger mechanism" to allow me to get into my "place" or "zone". All
    Summer and Fall I trained w/ a Nike Runners cap on....right on my brow making a
    slightly visiable arch (brim of the cap) allowing me to see 10-15m in front of
    me and nothing else. This facilitated conjuring a hypnotic effect to allow me
    to not be aware of anything (hills, weather, etc.) and just run free. With a
    winter knit cap on with no Brow.....everything just felt unfamiliar and
    "off"...foreign...etc. Oh well...in a nanosecond I accepted my new
    surroundings and simply tried to find my runnign zone.

    I did not wear a watch....had my first awareness of time at mile 4, 26:40....in
    my head did some quick calculations and felt, "OK"...6:40 pace is OK at this
    juncture for me. At this point with how I was feeling...I just thought,
    "maintain this lance" and this will be victory. So I focus on my strides and
    breathing...knowing I wanted to maintain this 6:40 going forward. I hit the 5
    mile mark, the sun is now above most of the course, it's rays are warm, I
    scanned the runners in front of me and a few had no gloves on....so at the 5
    mile mark I tossed my cap and gloves to the side of the course/road.

    I hit the 6 mile mark and the timer/volunteer guy says 40:02! I do the math
    as I am racing and I'm thinking..."No F'ing way". I was astonished and as I
    ran kept thinking....could that be right? It really blew my mind to hear that
    time. At this point I'm thinking...."bring this mf'er home Lance". I tried to
    get into an uncounsious zone where I could just run free....never got there.
    Commencing at mile 7.5-8 many of the runner that train per the book for this
    stuff started to pass me. No kidding. It's a rude awakening when those that
    have trained properly demonstrate, illustrate in real life...the value of
    proper training. Me?...bascially defenseless. These people passing me have
    stores, theyre right where they expected to be at this point in the race and
    have the reserves to pour it on....while I'm trying to freakin' hold on.

    So at mile 9....I give total effort and said to myself, "oh well"...just anothe
    race. I finish, put on a decent kick and pass some folks....finsihed with a
    1:02:28, 6:43/mile. I wondered what in the hell happend to that 40:02 time
    pace? I can't believe I fell off the map to that extent.....and I question
    that time-caller's accuracy.....and then started wondering if I tossed my
    cap/gloves too sone? I feel the race was a "8" - "8.5" for me. I did clock a
    full minute lower than I did for the same race 2 years ago. When you're
    over 40, and you beat a time you clocked in your 30's....you're Happy! So all
    things considered....I'm feeling OK about this mornings race. I missed some
    goals, I hit some goals, when the smoke cleared....it was an overall "thumbs
    up" personally.

    It was a gorgeous day in Central Park. And today I did something I really
    never have done before. After my finish....I positioned myself to watch, root,
    and cheer on the other runners that were just now finishing. It's a hell of a
    lot of fun to try and encourage someone 50 yards shy of the finish to put on a
    kick! It really makes a differnce when total strangers cheer and root you
    on....to be your best. I know that from experience, and simply felt a
    responsibility to pass that along to another. I hope I did.

    Amazing/Interesting Fact about todays race? Finishers?
    Men – 1614 Women – 1618

    Never have I seen I so even w/3000+ runners.......and more women then men!

  2. Lanceandrew said:

    I hit the 6 mile mark and the timer/volunteer guy says 40:02! I do the
    math as I am racing and I'm thinking..."No F'ing way". I was astonished and
    as I ran kept thinking....could that be right? It really blew my mind to
    hear that time. At this point I'm thinking...."bring this mf'er home Lance".
    I tried to get into an uncounsious zone where I could just run free....never
    got there. Commencing at mile 7.5-8 many of the runner that train per the
    book for this stuff started to pass me. No kidding. It's a rude awakening
    when those that have trained properly demonstrate, illustrate in real
    life...the value of proper training. Me?...bascially defenseless. These
    people passing me have stores, theyre right where they expected to be at
    this point in the race and have the reserves to pour it on....while I'm
    trying to freakin' hold on.

    So at mile 9....I give total effort and said to myself, "oh well"...just
    anothe race. I finish, put on a decent kick and pass some folks....finsihed
    with a 1:02:28, 6:43/mile. I wondered what in the hell happend to that 40:02
    time pace? I can't believe I fell off the map to that extent.....and I
    question that time-caller's accuracy.....and then started wondering if I

    You held a pretty even pace for the first 6. Your average for the last 3.3
    miles was a 6:48, only 5 seconds per mile slower than average. Not quite
    negative splits, but it's still pretty close to an even pace. In terms of how
    you paced yourself, this has got to be one of your better races. So I think
    that your feeling that the wheels didn't fall off is justified, even though
    you slowed down and dropped a few places.

    I don't think running a few seconds positive hurts that much -- when you go out
    a little fast, you end up in front of some people who were "meant to be" in
    front of you, so it's not really a loss when they claim the position that was
    theirs to begin with.

    Cheers,
    --
    Donovan Rebbechi
    http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

  3. Lanceandrew wrote in message
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    OK it's cold. I have on a NB coolmax longsleeve shirt, asics shorts, knit


    cap

    Quoted message said:

    & gloves, coolmax socks & my nb 700s flats. This race was at the boarder


    line

    Quoted message said:

    gear wise for me. 32F. Had it been 5 degrees or so cooler, I might have
    worn a light jacket, perhaps a thermal top, perhaps tights. 5 degrees
    warmer, i never would have had on the cap or gloves. this race started at


    the

    No wind? Did you really need the hat? Light gloves always seem necessary
    to me below 50f, though at race pace I'd tend to take them off after a
    little while (as you did).

    Quoted message said:

    When I race I want to latch on to a rail. A familair comfort mechanism or
    "zone trigger mechanism" to allow me to get into my "place" or "zone". All
    Summer and Fall I trained w/ a Nike Runners cap on....right on my brow


    making a

    Quoted message said:

    slightly visiable arch (brim of the cap) allowing me to see 10-15m in front


    of

    Quoted message said:

    me and nothing else. This facilitated conjuring a hypnotic effect to


    allow me

    Quoted message said:

    to not be aware of anything (hills, weather, etc.) and just run free......

    Zombie out! - I never thought of doing that intentionally, though it seems
    to happen naturally after a while in longer races. I guess for redlining
    stuff like that helps you focus.

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    I did not wear a watch....

    Curious why no watch?

    Quoted message said:

    So at mile 9....I give total effort and said to myself, "oh well"...just


    anothe

    Quoted message said:

    race. I finish, put on a decent kick and pass some folks....finsihed with


    a

    Quoted message said:

    1:02:28, 6:43/mile. I wondered what in the hell happend to that 40:02 time
    pace? I can't believe I fell off the map to that extent.....and I


    question

    Quoted message said:

    that time-caller's accuracy.....and then started wondering if I tossed my
    cap/gloves too sone? I feel the race was a "8" - "8.5" for me. I did


    clock a

    Quoted message said:

    full minute lower than I did for the same race 2 years ago. When you're
    over 40, and you beat a time you clocked in your 30's....you're Happy! So


    all

    Quoted message said:

    things considered....I'm feeling OK about this mornings race. I missed


    some

    Quoted message said:

    goals, I hit some goals, when the smoke cleared....it was an overall


    "thumbs

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    up" personally.

    Looks like a great race to me and doesn't seem like you "fell off" much at
    all. As for the guys who passed you; that's just their tactics, you ran a
    more even race than they did. Why would tossing your cap/gloves too soon
    slow you down - you got cold? I'd have tossed the hat and kept the gloves,
    at least for a while. Nice improvement by a minute in the same race.

    Quoted message said:

    It was a gorgeous day in Central Park. And today I did something I really
    never have done before. After my finish....I positioned myself to watch,


    root,

    Quoted message said:

    and cheer on the other runners that were just now finishing. It's a hell


    of a

    Quoted message said:

    lot of fun to try and encourage someone 50 yards shy of the finish to put


    on a

    Quoted message said:

    kick! It really makes a differnce when total strangers cheer and root you
    on....to be your best. I know that from experience, and simply felt a
    responsibility to pass that along to another. I hope I did.

    I did this at my 50k and 10 miler, and yea it's really great to cheer
    others. At the 10 miler, I stayed and watched the first 30-40 marathon
    finishers and that was cool, seeing the finish of the winner at 2:22 or
    something, and the sub 3hrs runners. After my own recent marathon I was too
    spent and cold to stand around at the finish.

    Quoted message said:

    Amazing/Interesting Fact about todays race? Finishers?
    Men – 1614 Women – 1618

    Never have I seen I so even w/3000+ runners.......and more women then men!

    That's a lot of runners damn! Nice job Lance.

    -Tony

  4. Good race, Lance. I ran the same one 2 years ago when I was in NYC on
    vacation -- in fact I was just wearing the T-shirt a couple of days
    ago. I was just a few weeks into my "get back in shape and lose weight
    dammit" program; I think I finished in the neighborhood of 1:24.
    Nowadays I'd be in your vicinity.

    I remember it well; there was 8 inches of snow on the ground, and they
    declared it a "fun run" because not all the streets were clear of ice.
    It was cold enough that the cups of water at the aid stations were
    freezing over. One of my favorite races ever.

    You hit 6 miles at 6:40 pace and finished averaging 6:43, so you only
    slowed up 9 seconds/mile over the last 3.3. Not bad really,
    particularly since you weren't checking your splits along the way.

    Thanks for the report!

    --
    Brian P. Baresch
    Fort Worth, Texas, USA
    Professional editing and proofreading

    If you're going through hell, keep going. --Winston Churchill

  5. hey tony. i feel knit cap was warranted at the freezing point, 32F simply to
    retain body warmpth. about 75% of the competitive runners had on headgear (if
    not a cap, a head band). also note this was the very first "cold" morning of
    the season. i doubt many if any in the field of runners trained in similar
    conditions, thus far. i think it's fair to say there's a big difference
    between the first freezing (or below) day and the 30th, etc.

    on the other point, i've been reading about sports psychology...and have tried
    to adopt practices in this direction. lots of athletes employ tactics to
    facilitate getting into their "zone, rhythm, stride, mental focus, etc."

    tossing the gloves/hat thing? in reflecting on the race i just speculated if i
    would of perhaps performed better had i kept those items on for the final 4
    miles...in the sense that comfort produces better performance. i became aware
    my head was cold perhaps 1 minute after tossing my cap and the fact that i had
    awareness alone...makes me question if i should have simply left it on. i
    created a physical and mental distraction for myself mid-race and it was
    unnecessary. i thought i would be more comfortable without those items....i
    was wrong. it certainly felt colder than 32F, that's for sure (again, probably
    because it was the first running at a freezing temp this season).

    imo "comfort" is imparative to produce optimum performance. the additional
    weight of a certain shoe, gel-heel cushion, jacket, etc. is negated in whole
    if it delivers you "comfort" and allows you to mentally focus and perform at
    your optimum level. i know some runners that must have their sunglasses, or
    runner's cap, or whatever. i guess basically as runners we don't want to be
    distracted and everyone has their own recipe of running gear per the
    conditions, to not be distracted (by the weather or distance, etc.)

  6. Lance,

    congratulations on a great race and also for beating the best time from
    your previous decade. You also had near even splits, very cool! One
    (tongue-in-cheek) question for you: were you running hard enough if you
    had time to think about feeling uncomfortable after removing your cap
    and gloves.

    -Vimal

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