race & long run same weekend

Run it, you'll regret it.

If otherwise you are injury free, it shouldn't be a problem.

Folktale : while training for a marathon, I did both the 5k and 10k
races of teh Medina Twin sizzler. I raced the 5K and ran the 10k as a
training run. It was a good experience. So I say go for it!

Ed

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Folktale : while training for a marathon, I did both the 5k and 10k

races of teh Medina Twin sizzler. I raced the 5K and ran the 10k as a
training run. It was a good experience. So I say go for it!>

There you have it! Proof it's a very bad Idea. Anything Prozac
endorses, can't be good.

Charlie Pendejo wrote in message
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I'll run a 5M race Saturday - it's not a *major* goal race, but I will
rest up the prior couple days and give as close to 100% as possible.
I'd also like to get in a ~15M run the same weekend.

My instinct is that "race as part of long run" is likely less of an
injury-provoking factor than "race, then long run the next day"; i.e. I
think I'm more worried about consecutive hard days than a single run
which is both hard (fast) and hard (long).

So I'm inclined to do something like: 2M warmup, 5 race, 8 cooldown
(run home, very slow), and take Sunday off completely or maybe a very
easy 3M. My feeling is this may be the rough equivalent of a 10 mile
race or half marathon, in terms of stress on the body and need for
recovery. The fast bit is faster, the long bit longer, but for the
most part it's slower.

Does anyone have any data, folklore, opinion, wild conjecture, rules of
thumb, advice, or amusing anecodotes on the question of "race as part
of long run" vs. "race one day, long run the next"?

I used to do *hard* blue course orienteering races, and the national class
"A" meets always have races both Saturday and Sunday, with the combined time
winning the course. For me, these races were usually 80 to 100 minutes each
day, run at about 90% of Max HR.

The second day wasn't always harder, though you've got to eat like hell
right after the first race to get tanked up enough for the next day. Often
the overall HR would be slightly lower the second day.

So in your situation I'd say yea if you're healthy you can surely do that,
but I'd go easier than normal on the long run. Also, age is a factor. If I
do a 2-day orienteering meet now (age 42), I don't run for at least a week
after, though I'll get some biking in. Remember, long runs don't have to be
done every week. For me it's more effective to do them every 2 weeks at this
point.

-Tony

Charlie Pendejo said:

Does anyone have any data, folklore, opinion, wild conjecture, rules of
thumb, advice, or amusing anecodotes on the question of "race as part
of long run" vs. "race one day, long run the next"?

twice a year i used to do a 26 mile inline race and the finish line was
less than a mile from my house, so i would get up early and skate out to
the start, then race back. i also tried driving to the start, racing,
then skating back to the car, that was ok, could sleep in later, but if
i had a bad race where i blew up and turned into lactic acid girl, it
could be a struggle on the return route.

skating doesn't injure one like running, so none of this is topical to
that question.
h