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  1. Hello group!

    I'm conducting a survey of triathletes. Do you prefer easier, flat courses
    or more difficult hilly courses? The reason I'm asking is that I'm thinking
    of staging a half Ironman distance event in a remote location (I don't want
    to say where until I commit to actually going through with this). We have
    beautiful scenery and to make the most of it, I'd like the half marathon run
    to encompass a very substantial climb (700 feet over 2 1/2 miles). Eighty
    percent of the run would be on forest roads. Do you think this would
    attract people because of the challenge, or frighten them away?

    --
    Robert A. Haase
    Sr. Research Scientist
    Signature Research, Inc.
    (906)337-3360
    [email hidden]

  2. "Bob Haase" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello group!

    I'm conducting a survey of triathletes. Do you prefer easier, flat
    courses
    or more difficult hilly courses? The reason I'm asking is that I'm
    thinking
    of staging a half Ironman distance event in a remote location (I don't
    want
    to say where until I commit to actually going through with this). We have
    beautiful scenery and to make the most of it, I'd like the half marathon
    run
    to encompass a very substantial climb (700 feet over 2 1/2 miles). Eighty
    percent of the run would be on forest roads. Do you think this would
    attract people because of the challenge, or frighten them away?

    --
    Robert A. Haase
    Sr. Research Scientist
    Signature Research, Inc.
    (906)337-3360
    [email hidden]

    I think your course "toughness" preferences will vary. I don't really care,
    either way. Another recurring theme is safety.

    Safety would seem to be a bigger challenge in a remote location. It seems
    more difficult to account for medical emergencies, adequate staffing of
    volunteers and aid stations, sweeping debris from key portions of the bike
    course, etc.

    rsquared

  3. Hi rsquared,

    Thanks for your comments. I'm sure it is more difficult to get volunteers
    in a small town setting than in a big city, but I think we can do it. I've
    been a race director for other local races and we've managed to get the help
    we needed.

    Of course safety is most important. And being a racer, I know how important
    it is to have corners on the bike course clear of gravel. The race, if it
    happens will have paramedics at the transition, US Coast Guard on the swim
    course, and HAM radio operators on both the run and bike courses. I'm
    planning on aid at three places on the bike route and about every mile on
    the run.

    A remote location offers some plusses, too. For one, there is the
    opportunity to race in an incredibly beautiful setting. And there isn't
    very much traffic on the bike course, and nearly zero traffic on the run
    course.

    I don't like laps either. So this course wouldn't have laps. There are
    sections of the bike and run that are out-and-back, so athletes would have
    the opportunity to see there competition occasionally.

    Bob

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    "Bob Haase" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello group!

    I'm conducting a survey of triathletes. Do you prefer easier, flat
    courses
    or more difficult hilly courses? The reason I'm asking is that I'm
    thinking
    of staging a half Ironman distance event in a remote location (I don't
    want
    to say where until I commit to actually going through with this). We
    have
    beautiful scenery and to make the most of it, I'd like the half marathon
    run
    to encompass a very substantial climb (700 feet over 2 1/2 miles).
    Eighty
    percent of the run would be on forest roads. Do you think this would
    attract people because of the challenge, or frighten them away?

    --
    Robert A. Haase
    Sr. Research Scientist
    Signature Research, Inc.
    (906)337-3360
    [email hidden]

    I think your course "toughness" preferences will vary. I don't really
    care, either way. Another recurring theme is safety.

    Safety would seem to be a bigger challenge in a remote location. It seems
    more difficult to account for medical emergencies, adequate staffing of
    volunteers and aid stations, sweeping debris from key portions of the bike
    course, etc.

    rsquared

  4. Bob Haase said:

    Hello group!

    I'm conducting a survey of triathletes. Do you prefer easier, flat courses
    or more difficult hilly courses? The reason I'm asking is that I'm thinking
    of staging a half Ironman distance event in a remote location (I don't want
    to say where until I commit to actually going through with this). We have
    beautiful scenery and to make the most of it, I'd like the half marathon run
    to encompass a very substantial climb (700 feet over 2 1/2 miles). Eighty
    percent of the run would be on forest roads. Do you think this would
    attract people because of the challenge, or frighten them away?

    My own preference for IM or 1/2 IM courses is scenic beauty and a
    challenging course. I hate flat and boring courses - I get all of that
    I need when training for them.

    It sounds like your course would be very interesting and fun to run.

    Mike Tennent
    "IronPenguin"

  5. LOL, bring it on! A climb on the bike like that will cause some
    separation within the packs.

    I agree with the safety aspect.

    Mark

    "Bob Haase" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello group!

    I'm conducting a survey of triathletes. Do you prefer easier, flat courses
    or more difficult hilly courses? The reason I'm asking is that I'm thinking
    of staging a half Ironman distance event in a remote location (I don't want
    to say where until I commit to actually going through with this). We have
    beautiful scenery and to make the most of it, I'd like the half marathon run
    to encompass a very substantial climb (700 feet over 2 1/2 miles). Eighty
    percent of the run would be on forest roads. Do you think this would
    attract people because of the challenge, or frighten them away?

  6. Actually, the 700 foot climb is on the run. There are a few smaller climbs
    on the bike; I guess I'd call it rolling with some of the rollers being
    about 200 feet high.

    thanks,
    Bob

    "M Kochanski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    LOL, bring it on! A climb on the bike like that will cause some
    separation within the packs.

    I agree with the safety aspect.

    Mark

    "Bob Haase" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello group!

    I'm conducting a survey of triathletes. Do you prefer easier, flat
    courses
    or more difficult hilly courses? The reason I'm asking is that I'm
    thinking
    of staging a half Ironman distance event in a remote location (I don't
    want
    to say where until I commit to actually going through with this). We
    have
    beautiful scenery and to make the most of it, I'd like the half marathon
    run
    to encompass a very substantial climb (700 feet over 2 1/2 miles).
    Eighty
    percent of the run would be on forest roads. Do you think this would
    attract people because of the challenge, or frighten them away?

  7. Sounds likje fun. I like all types of courses. Challenging in their own way.

    Diana

    "Bob Haase" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Actually, the 700 foot climb is on the run. There are a few smaller climbs
    on the bike; I guess I'd call it rolling with some of the rollers being
    about 200 feet high.

    thanks,
    Bob

    "M Kochanski" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    LOL, bring it on! A climb on the bike like that will cause some
    separation within the packs.

    I agree with the safety aspect.

    Mark

    "Bob Haase" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello group!

    I'm conducting a survey of triathletes. Do you prefer easier, flat
    courses
    or more difficult hilly courses? The reason I'm asking is that I'm
    thinking
    of staging a half Ironman distance event in a remote location (I don't
    want
    to say where until I commit to actually going through with this). We
    have
    beautiful scenery and to make the most of it, I'd like the half marathon
    run
    to encompass a very substantial climb (700 feet over 2 1/2 miles).
    Eighty
    percent of the run would be on forest roads. Do you think this would
    attract people because of the challenge, or frighten them away?

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