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  1. For a while recently I was on a duirectic for high blood pressure. (Am off that now, and onto
    different meds, but that's another story.) Anyway, while on the diuretic, I was advised to eat foods
    to supplement my potassium intake.

    I went to a vitamin store to look for potassium supplements. I was surprised to discover that they
    all had dosages which were listed as being around 3% of the daily recommended dose. This surprised
    me -- most dietary supplements have anywhere's from 50% to 100% of the recommended daily allowance.

    Why are the supplements so low on potassium?

    Thanks in advance for all replies.

    Steve O.

    Standard Antiflame Disclaimer: Please don't flame me. I may actually *be* an idiot, but even idiots
    have feelings.

  2. "Steven O." <Steven@OpZZREMOVE_ALL_Zs_AND_ALL_BETWEEN_ZZComm.com> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    For a while recently I was on a duirectic for high blood pressure. (Am off that now, and onto
    different meds, but that's another story.) Anyway, while on the diuretic, I was advised to eat
    foods to supplement my potassium intake.

    I went to a vitamin store to look for potassium supplements. I was surprised to discover that they
    all had dosages which were listed as being around 3% of the daily recommended dose. This surprised
    me -- most dietary supplements have anywhere's from 50% to 100% of the recommended daily
    allowance.

    Why are the supplements so low on potassium?

    Thanks in advance for all replies.

    Steve O.

    "Dietary supplements" don't really need to have potassium at all. Potassium is plentiful in foods,
    being the main intracellular ion of both animals and plants.

    Peter Moran

  3. Steven O. <Steven@OpZZREMOVE_ALL_Zs_AND_ALL_BETWEEN_ZZComm.com> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    The new world order / pharmaceutical-chemical cartel don't like people to be too aware of the good
    nutritional supplements and particularly minerals, can do and have worked conscientiously over the
    year to reduce the quality of all supplements and cut out information about them, to the point where
    nobody really knows much about macro-minerals any more.

    Codex Alimentarius - The Plan To Ban All Vitamins, Minerals, Herbs and Supplements www4.dr-rath-www4.dr-rath-
    foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/health_movement_against_codex/index.htm

    Sodium does have to be balanced with potassium, but also with calcium and magnesium. This is the
    study of cellsalts which is a long-forgotten therapy due to suppression by our current
    pharmaceutical cartel approved system.

    Unfortunately new world order can't make money out of nutritional supplements, but another point is
    that they don't want people to be too healthy as they are easier to manipulate and brain-wash if
    they operating just a little below par. This is the reason they are pushing to ultimately remove or
    make low ineffective doses of essential nutrients, like potassium.

    Looks like Bronsing has been a good subject for mind control. His science degree hasn't given him
    any insight into this essential nutrient, although they do give rather large doses of potassum to
    racing horses to keep them in prime condition.

    Carole austarmetro.com.aucellsalts.htm "Nothing would be what it is,  Because
    everything would be what it isn’t. And contrary-wise: what it is, it wouldn’t be.  And
    what it wouldn’t be, it would.  You see?" -- Alice’s Adventures In Wonderland, 1865, by
    Lewis Carroll, English writer and mathematician.

  4. In sci.med Carole <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Steven O. <Steven@OpZZREMOVE_ALL_Zs_AND_ALL_BETWEEN_ZZComm.com> wrote in message
    : news:<[email hidden]>...

    : The new world order / pharmaceutical-chemical cartel don't like people to be too aware of the good
    : nutritional supplements and particularly minerals, can do and have worked conscientiously over the
    : year to reduce the quality of all supplements and cut out information about them, to the point
    : where nobody really knows much about macro-minerals any more.

    Um, yeah, that's it.

    Realistically, though, hyperkalemia can stop your heart.

    Potassium is one of the electrolytes. Electrolytes carry electrical signals -- the heart signals
    being one of them.

    In fact, potassium overdose is how they stop the heart when they do lethal injection.

    Potassium OD can be fatal. My aunt's mother (by marriage) died this way on a combination of
    diuretics and potassium supplements.

    They did surgery, put in a pacemaker. The damage was too much.

    Emma

  5. [email hidden] (Carole) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Steven O. <Steven@OpZZREMOVE_ALL_Zs_AND_ALL_BETWEEN_ZZComm.com> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    The new world order / pharmaceutical-chemical cartel don't like people to be too aware of the good
    nutritional supplements and particularly minerals, can do and have worked conscientiously over the
    year to reduce the quality of all supplements and cut out information about them, to the point
    where nobody really knows much about macro-minerals any more.

    There is MORE information than ever before about nutrition available to just about anyone. There is
    no "New World Order", just people who use it as a catch-phrase to explain the lack of acceptance of
    their particular ideas.

    Quoted message said:

    Codex Alimentarius - The Plan To Ban All Vitamins, Minerals, Herbs and Supplements www4.dr-rath-www4.dr-rath-
    foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/health_movement_against_codex/index.htm

    There is no "Master Plan" for *anything* -- least of all some secret organization devoting its time
    to supressing information about products they can (& do) make a bundle from. Vitamins & other
    supplements *aren't* free. They are commonly sold at prices that rival those of many OTC
    pharmaceuticals. Priced supplements like Sam-E, Glucosamine/MSM, or Quercetin recently? The
    supplement industry is just that -- an industry. It's made up of companies who make a good profit
    for their owners. They do not give away their products any more than Pfizer or Ayerst give away
    theirs. They are not more ethical or concerned about consumers than those selling conventional
    health care products. For every website claiming some conspiracy exists to prevent people from
    "finding out the truth" about *anything*, there are 10 others that demonstrate by their existence
    the falsehood of such a premise.

    Quoted message said:

    Sodium does have to be balanced with potassium, but also with calcium and magnesium. This is the
    study of cellsalts which is a long-forgotten therapy due to suppression by our current
    pharmaceutical cartel approved system.

    Pharmaceutical companies are some of the biggest producers & marketers of supplements. The theory of
    cell salts has not been "suppressed", it has been left behind with other ineffective
    treatments/cures that did little to help those who used them. Nobody has suppressed your claims of
    cell salts being the answer for everything except decapitation -- you've simply confused
    inacceptance with suppression. They are worlds apart. Suppression would involve actually stopping
    you from voicing your opinion. As you are here doing exactly what you insist is being suppressed,
    you've proven it's not true.

    Quoted message said:

    Unfortunately new world order can't make money out of nutritional supplements,

    Nutritional supplements make those selling them a great deal of money. They aren't handed out for
    free on street corners. They are purchased in stores where merchants pay rent, utilities, &
    advertising costs while still making a good profit on what they sell. The companies that produce,
    package, & market vitamins, herbs, & other nutritional products answer to stockholders or private
    owners. There are employees & other costs of doing business to be paid.

    Quoted message said:

    but another point is that they don't want people to be too healthy as they are easier to
    manipulate and brain-wash if they operating just a little below par.

    The items that make people feel good &/or look good are those in demand. The products that deliver
    on that promise are easy to sell, whether they include the pharmaceutical companies' offerings,
    supplements, cigarettes, food products, or any other consumer goods. Your wishful "us & them"
    thinking doesn't cut it because in a world as diverse as the one we live in there isn't such a
    thing. The guy popping Prilosec may also be the one who smokes & drinks too much. The woman who
    takes ginseng & cell salts may well be 50 lbs. overweight & think the remote control is an exercise
    device. Neither one may be the glowing picture of vitality, but it probably would have little to do
    with what they're swallowing from a bottle. Good health certainly isn't exclusive to any one
    practice & to say it is denies reality.

    Quoted message said:

    This is the reason they are pushing to ultimately remove or make low ineffective doses of
    essential nutrients, like potassium.

    Healthy people with normal fluid intake & output rarely need potassium supplementation. There are
    regular everyday foods that supply all the potassium needed. Those who need any supplementation
    usually require it because of a medical problem.

    Quoted message said:

    Looks like Bronsing has been a good subject for mind control. His science degree hasn't given him
    any insight into this essential nutrient,

    It would seem more likely that you are the perfect candidate for the mind control you claim is
    rampant. The belief in "a conspiracy under every rock" makes you quite ready to accept any idea if
    the level of paranoia is high enough. Your suspicion of education, along with your belief that those
    who know what you don't are somehow "brainwashed" presents a poser -- who is doing all this sinister
    mind control if the educated folks are being "controlled"? The notion contradicts itself -- as
    almost all ideas based in nothing but fear do.

    Quoted message said:

    although they do give rather large doses of potassum to racing horses to keep them in prime
    condition.

    According to what source? One could also give the example that starfish grow back cut-off rays -- so
    what? Does it follow that amputated arms grow back on people? Are the physiological processes of
    every species identical? Of course not. Otherwise we could feed you oats & barley & let you run
    around a track while people with gambling problems bet their mortgage money on you.

    Michele I ENJOY being a cranky [censored].

  6. "Steven O." <Steven@OpZZREMOVE_ALL_Zs_AND_ALL_BETWEEN_ZZComm.com> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    For a while recently I was on a duirectic for high blood pressure. (Am off that now, and onto
    different meds, but that's another story.) Anyway, while on the diuretic, I was advised to eat
    foods to supplement my potassium intake.

    I went to a vitamin store to look for potassium supplements. I was surprised to discover that they
    all had dosages which were listed as being around 3% of the daily recommended dose. This surprised
    me -- most dietary supplements have anywhere's from 50% to 100% of the recommended daily
    allowance.

    Why are the supplements so low on potassium?

    Thanks in advance for all replies.

    The maximum dose of potassium permitted by the FDA in OTC supplements is 99 mg. This is presumably
    to avoid the possible overdoses that other posters referred to, although this is extremely
    unlikely at such low levels. It takes MUCH higher doses of potassium to do that; and the adult RDA
    is 3 to 5 grams.

    JA Golczewski, Ph.D. users.rcn.comjg.HTM Updates, free book on health and life-
    extension

    Quoted message said:


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  7. On 2004-01-19 23:40:39 -0500, Steven O.

    Steven@OpZZREMOVE_ALL_Zs_AND_ALL_BETWEEN_ZZComm.com said:


    Why are the supplements so low on potassium?

    Probably to make it harder for you to accidentally kill yourself using them.

    Potassium supplements, taken along with diuretics, should be prescribed only by a physician and used
    under a physician's supervision. This will include periodic monitoring of your electrolytes,
    including potassium levels. If you're truly at risk for hypokalemia, "eating foods higher in
    potassium" isn't the way to fix the problem. This isn't a DIY endeavor. Talk to your doctor.

  8. [email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Carole) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Steven O. <Steven@OpZZREMOVE_ALL_Zs_AND_ALL_BETWEEN_ZZComm.com> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    The new world order / pharmaceutical-chemical cartel don't like people to be too aware of the
    good nutritional supplements and particularly minerals, can do and have worked conscientiously
    over the year to reduce the quality of all supplements and cut out information about them, to
    the point where nobody really knows much about macro-minerals any more.

    There is MORE information than ever before about nutrition available to just about anyone. There
    is no "New World Order", just people who use it as a catch-phrase to explain the lack of
    acceptance of their particular ideas.

    Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

    Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

  9. Emma Chase VanCott <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    In sci.med Carole <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Steven O. <Steven@OpZZREMOVE_ALL_Zs_AND_ALL_BETWEEN_ZZComm.com> wrote in message
    : news:<[email hidden]>...

    : The new world order / pharmaceutical-chemical cartel don't like people to be too aware of the
    : good nutritional supplements and particularly minerals, can do and have worked conscientiously
    : over the year to reduce the quality of all supplements and cut out information about them, to
    : the point where nobody really knows much about macro-minerals any more.

    Um, yeah, that's it.

    Realistically, though, hyperkalemia can stop your heart.

    Potassium is one of the electrolytes. Electrolytes carry electrical signals -- the heart signals
    being one of them.

    In fact, potassium overdose is how they stop the heart when they do lethal injection.

    Potassium OD can be fatal. My aunt's mother (by marriage) died this way on a combination of
    diuretics and potassium supplements.

    They did surgery, put in a pacemaker. The damage was too much.

    Emma

    Interesting and point taken.

    Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

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