Question on Calories

It is perhaps easier to ask the question in a different way, as to how
many caleries to reduce from the current intake to lose weight at a given
rate. Choosing a pound a week, one would lower consumption by 500
calories, one pound of stored fat is about 3500 caleries and 500/day gives
us the per week daily rate. It has been found that more then 1.5 pounds
per week tends to be counter productive for long term weight loss and
maintenance. If one looks at an exercise chart for caleries/hour by type,
only the most intensive consume many caleries. Don't count on caleries
consumed to add much to the daily loss. Exercise does have many other
health benefits which don't address the point of your question and should
be done at the same time as reducing caleries for that reason alone. To
be mindful of calerie intake, one must have some measure of portions by
weight or measure. See:

calorieking.comsearch.phpOpen ↗

to assist you in doing so. By seeing how much he now
consumes for total caleries, you can then know how much to
reduce each day for the desired rate of loss. This is a very
vcomplex area and I have only addressed the questions you
have raised. Other points to educate yourself about are the
quality of the food he eats and the amounts of nutrients
anyone needs to consume for overall health. There are many
net based sources of that kind of information and maybe some
can be addressed here in subsequent questions, good luck.

Quoted message said:

My husband is 5 foot 8 inches and weighs 220 pounds. He
walks 2 miles a day, at a slow or moderate pace. I have
some questions about calories and dieting.

How many calories would he burn per mile?

How many calories would he normally need each day?

How many calories are in each pound of fat on him?

How many calories should he take in daily, to lose 2 pounds
per week?

Thanks!

Lose calories too fast and you can lose your
gallbladder with it.

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Quoted message said:

It is perhaps easier to ask the question in a different
way, as to how many caleries to reduce from the current
intake to lose weight at a given rate. Choosing a pound a
week, one would lower consumption by 500 calories, one
pound of stored fat is about 3500 caleries and 500/day
gives us the per week daily rate. It has been found that
more then 1.5 pounds

PassionOfDarwin said:

My husband is 5 foot 8 inches and weighs 220 pounds. He
walks 2 miles a day, at a slow or moderate pace. I have
some questions about calories and dieting.

How many calories would he burn per mile?

About 110 kcal per mile, over and above his resting energy
requirement.

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How many calories would he normally need each day?

Perhaps 2500 kcal, depending on how active he is.

Quoted message said:

How many calories are in each pound of fat on him?

3500

Quoted message said:

How many calories should he take in daily, to lose 2
pounds per week?

He should eat 1000 kcal less than he burns in order to lose
two pounds per week. Since this is about half his calorie
quota for each day, it will probably be difficult to reduce
calories by this much. A reduction of 500 kcal per day (the
equivalent of a Big Mac) or even 200 (the equivalent of a
glass of whole milk) might be a lot easier.

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Pizza Girl said:

Lose calories too fast and you can lose your gallbladder
with it.

Only if you are predisposed to gallbladder problems, as a
general rule.

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PassionOfDarwin said:

My husband is 5 foot 8 inches and weighs 220 pounds. He
walks 2 miles a day, at a slow or moderate pace. I have
some questions about calories and dieting.

Losing fat is something people do when they decide to do it.
Having their WIFE decide to do it doesn't help. It's not
rocket science, it doesn't need to be charted in advance, it
just takes four steps:

1. Eat less
2. Exercise more
3. Repeat
4. Forever.

I found that each step has its own struggles. The most
important thing I did was to decide I didn't want to be fat
anymore and do what it takes to stop being fat. (I've lost
62 pounds since then.)

Quoted message said:

How many calories would he burn per mile?

Irrelevant, really. Exercise should serve more purposes than
how many calories it burns during the exercise. Does it
raise his heart rate to 80% of max? (My guess is not.) It
should. Does it stimulate muscle growth? (My guess is not.)
Does it raise his resting metabolism? I don't know.

Quoted message said:

How many calories would he normally need each day?

A starting rule of thumb for a man is 12x his weight in
calories, but not going under 10x his weight in calories.
I've found that the composition of the calories makes a
big difference. I like to eat only 40-50% of my calories
from carbs just to get the most satietion out of my
calorie budget.

Quoted message said:

How many calories should he take in daily, to lose 2
pounds per week?

It's a two part formula where both parts produce feedback
on each other. He has to eat less AND burn more. A good
starting place is for him to log all his foods at
www.fitday.com and see how much he's currently eating.
Then eat less.

But fat loss is best measured in retrospect. Having goals
about how much fat you plan to lose only makes it likely
that you'll quit in frustration when you don't meet your
goal. A better goal is to adopt a healthy habit each week.
How many healthy habits can he adopt that he can hold onto
for the rest of his life?

I really do hate to see people coming here on behalf of a
loved one. Losing weight is intrinsically something you have
to do alone. No diet and exercise plan works - HE has to do
all the work. (The diet plan just sits there.) Until he's
ready to do it he will just fail.

Dally

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Quoted message said:

My husband is 5 foot 8 inches and weighs 220 pounds. He
walks 2 miles a day, at a slow or moderate pace. I have
some questions about calories and dieting.

How many calories would he burn per mile?

How many calories would he normally need each day?

How many calories are in each pound of fat on him?

How many calories should he take in daily, to lose 2
pounds per week?

Thanks!

The math involved in predicting weight loss or gain using
caloric values of food is not very useful. 98% of those who
attempt to lose weight by restricting and/or counting
calories fail. It is a fundamentally flawed theory. It
doesn't work. There is no science that links caloric values
of food with controlling weight/fat in humans. I challenge
anyone to show us the definitive and seminal study that
makes the direct and un-equivocal connection between calorie-
intake and weight management (gain/loss).

TC

Quoted message said:

It is perhaps easier to ask the question in a different
way, as to how many caleries to reduce from the current
intake to lose weight at a given rate. Choosing a pound a
week, one would lower consumption by 500 calories, one
pound of stored fat is about 3500 caleries and 500/day
gives us the per week daily rate. It has been found that
more then 1.5 pounds per week tends to be counter
productive for long term weight loss and maintenance. If
one looks at an exercise chart for caleries/hour by type,
only the most intensive consume many caleries. Don't count
on caleries consumed to add much to the daily loss.
Exercise does have many other health benefits which don't
address the point of your question and should be done at
the same time as reducing caleries for that reason alone.
To be mindful of calerie intake, one must have some measure
of portions by weight or measure. See:

calorieking.comsearch.phpOpen ↗

to assist you in doing so. By seeing how much he now
consumes for total caleries, you can then know how much to
reduce each day for the desired rate of loss. This is a
very vcomplex area and I have only addressed the questions
you have raised. Other points to educate yourself about are
the quality of the food he eats and the amounts of
nutrients anyone needs to consume for overall health. There
are many net based sources of that kind of information and
maybe some can be addressed here in subsequent questions,
good luck.

Quoted message said:

My husband is 5 foot 8 inches and weighs 220 pounds. He
walks 2 miles a

day, at

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a slow or moderate pace. I have some questions about
calories and dieting.

How many calories would he burn per mile?

How many calories would he normally need each day?

How many calories are in each pound of fat on him?

How many calories should he take in daily, to lose 2
pounds per week?

Thanks!

first, he should watch caloric intake, eat smaller portions
of foods, more frequently, 4 or 5 small meals, breakfast
most important, boiled egg white for protein, piece of whole
grain bread,bowl of oatmeal for fiber. not so much the
calories, if possible raw vegs, and fruits, drink plenty of
water. or he could go to this site where the ceo has just
lost 100lbs last two years on dream away weight loss program
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The math involved in predicting weight loss or gain using
caloric values of food is not very useful. 98% of those
who attempt to lose weight by restricting and/or counting
calories fail. It is a fundamentally flawed theory. It
doesn't work. There is no science that links caloric
values of food with controlling weight/fat in humans. I
challenge anyone to show us the definitive and seminal
study that makes the direct and un-equivocal connection
between calorie-intake and weight management (gain/loss).

Er - isn't it about time to get in touch with ground
control?
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Er - isn't it about time to get in touch with ground
control?

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Do you really expect TC to be anything but our village
idiot?

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

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Er - isn't it about time to get in touch with ground
control?

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Do you really expect TC to be anything but our village
idiot?

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

Ah, if the ceo was 100 lbs over weight, why should we
follow his weight advice? The site is just another
"miricle" in a bottle scam with all the familiar pitches.
Spam, just ignore.

"or he could go to this site where the ceo has just lost
100lbs last two years on dream away weight loss program ..."

"Suggesting weight by restricting and/or counting calories
fail. It is a fundamentally flawed theory. It doesn't work.
There is no science that links caloric values of food with
controlling weight/fat in humans. I challenge anyone to show
us the definitive and seminal study that makes the direct
and un-equivocal connection between calorie-intake and
weight management (gain/loss)."

Then you might enlighten us as to the "real scientific"
principle by which weight is lost or gained; and the
supporting research by which it is supported. In the context
of generations of research such an extraordinary claim
requires extraordinary evidence from your perspective, not
from the current concensus. If accepted science is to be
replaced, and it is from time to time, the new notion
carries all the burden of evidence.

tcomeau said:

The math involved in predicting weight loss or gain using
caloric values of food is not very useful. 98% of those
who attempt to lose weight by restricting and/or counting
calories fail.

One hundred percent of people who try to lose weight
without creating a calorie deficit fail. One hundred
percent of people who try to lose weight by creating a
calorie deficit succeed.

It's all calories in versus calories out. It is the ONLY way
to lose weight, and it ALWAYS works.

Quoted message said:

It is a fundamentally flawed theory. It doesn't work.
There is no science that links caloric values of food with
controlling weight/fat in humans.

The laws of thermodynamics guarantee that a caloric deficit
will produce weight loss. There are no exceptions.

Quoted message said:

I challenge anyone to show us the definitive and seminal
study that makes the direct and un-equivocal connection
between calorie-intake and weight management (gain/loss).

There are hundreds of such studies, but they aren't really
needed, since the laws of thermodynamics are pretty clear.
Ever wonder why you don't see anyone in a long-term coma
who is obese?

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10x my weight in ounces?

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Quoted message said:

PassionOfDarwin said:

My husband is 5 foot 8 inches and weighs 220 pounds. He
walks 2 miles a

day, at

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

a slow or moderate pace. I have some questions about
calories and

dieting.

Quoted message said:

Losing fat is something people do when they decide to do
it. Having their WIFE decide to do it doesn't help. It's
not rocket science, it doesn't need to be charted in
advance, it just takes four steps:

1. Eat less
2. Exercise more
3. Repeat
4. Forever.

I found that each step has its own struggles. The most
important thing I did was to decide I didn't want to be
fat anymore and do what it takes to stop being fat. (I've
lost 62 pounds since then.)

Quoted message said:

How many calories would he burn per mile?

Irrelevant, really. Exercise should serve more purposes
than how many calories it burns during the exercise. Does
it raise his heart rate to 80% of max? (My guess is not.)
It should. Does it stimulate muscle growth? (My guess is
not.) Does it raise his resting metabolism? I don't know.

Quoted message said:

How many calories would he normally need each day?

A starting rule of thumb for a man is 12x his weight in
calories, but not going under 10x his weight in calories.
I've found that the composition of the calories makes a
big difference. I like to eat only 40-50% of my calories
from carbs just to get the most satietion out of my
calorie budget.

Quoted message said:

How many calories should he take in daily, to lose 2
pounds per week?

It's a two part formula where both parts produce feedback
on each other. He has to eat less AND burn more. A good
starting place is for him to log all his foods at
www.fitday.com and see how much he's currently eating.
Then eat less.

But fat loss is best measured in retrospect. Having goals
about how much fat you plan to lose only makes it likely
that you'll quit in frustration when you don't meet your
goal. A better goal is to adopt a healthy habit each week.
How many healthy habits can he adopt that he can hold onto
for the rest of his life?

I really do hate to see people coming here on behalf of a
loved one. Losing weight is intrinsically something you
have to do alone. No diet and exercise plan works - HE has
to do all the work. (The diet plan just sits there.) Until
he's ready to do it he will just fail.

Dally

You have no idea what you are talking about. Thiose
oversimplified statements posted by you are just horseshit
of the highest calibre and completely not true.

eg: "One hundred percent of people who try to lose weight
by creating a calorie deficit succeed" is just a damn lie.
Most people attempting this fail because most people fail
at all diets.

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Quoted message said:

tcomeau said:

The math involved in predicting weight loss or gain
using caloric values of food is not very useful. 98% of
those who attempt to lose weight by restricting and/or
counting calories fail.

One hundred percent of people who try to lose weight
without creating a calorie deficit fail. One hundred
percent of people who try to lose weight by creating a
calorie deficit succeed.

It's all calories in versus calories out. It is the ONLY
way to lose weight, and it ALWAYS works.

Quoted message said:

It is a fundamentally flawed theory. It doesn't work.
There is no science that links caloric values of food
with controlling weight/fat in humans.

The laws of thermodynamics guarantee that a caloric
deficit will produce weight loss. There are no exceptions.

Quoted message said:

I challenge anyone to show us the definitive and seminal
study that makes the direct and un-equivocal connection
between calorie-intake and weight management
(gain/loss).

There are hundreds of such studies, but they aren't really
needed, since the laws of thermodynamics are pretty clear.
Ever wonder why you don't see anyone in a long-term coma
who is obese?

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reach me directly.

Pizza Girl said:

10x my weight in ounces?

No dear, in calories. It turns out that calories
consumed actually ARE an important aspect of a fat-
reduction plan. Sorry.

Dally

So I use my weight in calories and multiply by ten.

How heavy is a calorie?

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Pizza Girl said:

10x my weight in ounces?

No dear, in calories. It turns out that calories
consumed actually ARE an important aspect of a fat-
reduction plan. Sorry.

Dally

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Quoted message said:

tcomeau said:

The math involved in predicting weight loss or gain
using caloric values of food is not very useful. 98% of
those who attempt to lose weight by restricting and/or
counting calories fail.

One hundred percent of people who try to lose weight
without creating a calorie deficit fail. One hundred
percent of people who try to lose weight by creating a
calorie deficit succeed.

It's all calories in versus calories out. It is the ONLY
way to lose weight, and it ALWAYS works.

If that were true then anyone who wanted to be thin and
followed the low-fat/low-calorie diet would be thin. Period.
But that ain't the case, is it?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

It is a fundamentally flawed theory. It doesn't work.
There is no science that links caloric values of food
with controlling weight/fat in humans.

The laws of thermodynamics guarantee that a caloric
deficit will produce weight loss. There are no exceptions.

Has nothing to do with the laws of thermodynamics. It is
several levels removed from the laws of thermo. Applying the
laws of thermo to weight control is extreme
oversimplification and sheer stupid assumption.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I challenge anyone to show us the definitive and seminal
study that makes the direct and un-equivocal connection
between calorie-intake and weight management
(gain/loss).

There are hundreds of such studies, but they aren't really
needed, since the laws of thermodynamics are pretty clear.

Then show me ONE! Otherwise Shut the f... up.

Quoted message said:

Ever wonder why you don't see anyone in a long-term coma
who is obese?

Since when does the extreme prove anything other than
the extreme?

TC

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Quoted message said:

"Suggesting weight by restricting and/or counting calories
fail. It is a fundamentally flawed theory. It doesn't
work. There is no science that links caloric values of
food with controlling weight/fat in humans. I challenge
anyone to show us the definitive and seminal study that
makes the direct and un-equivocal connection between calorie-
intake and weight management (gain/loss)."

Then you might enlighten us as to the "real scientific"
principle by which weight is lost or gained; and the
supporting research by which it is supported. In the
context of generations of research such an extraordinary
claim requires extraordinary evidence from your
perspective, not from the current concensus. If accepted
science is to be replaced, and it is from time to time,
the new notion carries all the burden of evidence.

It does not require extraordinary proof when the initial
theory itself was never proven. It was assumed. If it was
indeed "proven" then such an important breakthrough would be
well known to all in terms of when and who proved it.

Please provide me this info and I will meekly go away. Give
me the study and the name of the researcher who proved with
certainty that calories could be used to accurately predict
weight loss or gain in humans. Should be easy, since it is
such a fundamental principle in nutrition.

As far as replacing accepted science, I say that the science
was never there. It was accepted on face value and nothing
else. Show me the science.

TC