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  1. I wanted a wheel strong enough for messenger work (I weigh 175, very
    clumsy) and light enough for racing. I purchased a 36 hole phil wood
    120mm fixed/fixed hub, an open pro, and had it laced up 3x stainless
    db spokes, brass nipples. With the wheel in the frame so the Phil logo
    is right side up, the pulling/trailing/whatever spokes are elbows in
    (running along the inside of the flange.) With the Phil upside-down
    the pulling/trailing/whatever spokes are elbows out.

    One side of the hub will take a 17t cog for everyday use, the other a
    15 for rare trips to the track. The 17t side will probably see more
    strain in both directions (larger cog, slowing down, skids, skips)
    while the 15t cog will see less action and strain in only one direction
    (no hard slowing down.) Chainline is good, drivetrain in good shape,
    the chain will not throw into the spokes. I am trying to decide which
    cog to put on which side of the hub. I realize it probably does not
    matter, but I want to know anyways. Any help?
    -james

  2. Quoted message said:

    I wanted a wheel strong enough for messenger work (I weigh 175, very
    clumsy) and light enough for racing. I purchased a 36 hole phil wood
    120mm fixed/fixed hub, an open pro, and had it laced up 3x stainless
    db spokes, brass nipples. With the wheel in the frame so the Phil logo
    is right side up, the pulling/trailing/whatever spokes are elbows in
    (running along the inside of the flange.) With the Phil upside-down
    the pulling/trailing/whatever spokes are elbows out.

    One side of the hub will take a 17t cog for everyday use, the other a
    15 for rare trips to the track. The 17t side will probably see more
    strain in both directions (larger cog, slowing down, skids, skips)
    while the 15t cog will see less action and strain in only one direction
    (no hard slowing down.) Chainline is good, drivetrain in good shape,
    the chain will not throw into the spokes. I am trying to decide which
    cog to put on which side of the hub. I realize it probably does not
    matter, but I want to know anyways. Any help?
    -james

    It won't make a tinker's damn which side you put the cogs on.

  3. I think that most fixed riders of Phil's like to see the name while
    sitting on the bike and looking down on the front hub rather than
    having the name reversed. The same would also apply to the rear for
    symetrical appearance. So that would be my take on it. There is
    probably no Law about it though. Just make the front and rear match
    when using the rear on it's most used side.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I wanted a wheel strong enough for messenger work (I weigh 175, very
    clumsy) and light enough for racing. I purchased a 36 hole phil wood
    120mm fixed/fixed hub, an open pro, and had it laced up 3x stainless
    db spokes, brass nipples. With the wheel in the frame so the Phil logo
    is right side up, the pulling/trailing/whatever spokes are elbows in
    (running along the inside of the flange.) With the Phil upside-down
    the pulling/trailing/whatever spokes are elbows out.

    One side of the hub will take a 17t cog for everyday use, the other a
    15 for rare trips to the track. The 17t side will probably see more
    strain in both directions (larger cog, slowing down, skids, skips)
    while the 15t cog will see less action and strain in only one direction
    (no hard slowing down.) Chainline is good, drivetrain in good shape,
    the chain will not throw into the spokes. I am trying to decide which
    cog to put on which side of the hub. I realize it probably does not
    matter, but I want to know anyways. Any help?
    -james

    it does not matter.....but I would put the 17t on the side with Phil
    right side up...just for looks. Is the Phil name visible thru the valve
    stem hole?

  5. Now you're talking REAL class here:- :-)

    " Is the Phil name visible thru the valve stem hole? "

    Lewis.

    *****************

  6. yeah, logo is lined up with the valve hole, the one "classy" thing on
    my otherwise crappy bike. No more locking this thing up outside the
    bar all night.

  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I wanted a wheel strong enough for messenger work (I weigh 175, very
    clumsy) and light enough for racing. I purchased a 36 hole phil wood
    120mm fixed/fixed hub, an open pro, and had it laced up 3x stainless


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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am trying to decide which
    cog to put on which side of the hub. I realize it probably does not
    matter, but I want to know anyways

    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    it does not matter.....but I would put the 17t on the side with Phil
    right side up...just for looks. Is the Phil name visible thru the valve
    stem hole?

    I once fired a guy who used to get all worked up about
    things like that - obsessed over rim label positions but
    couldn't build a tight straight wheel.

    Me? I never look at labels - peel 'em off my own wheels.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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