Question for fellow Americans

Bear,

As far as I'm concerned, there are no carbs in any food consumed on
Thanksgiving, Christmas, or my Birthday. I've done that for years.

The one year I did a completely low carb Thanksgiving with none of our
family's traditional foods I got profoundly depressed and the next year I
decided to cut myself some slack.

However, I don't have a problem with bingeing, so I can blow it out one day
and get back on track the next. If you have a history of eating one cookie
and then going through three more boxes, it might be better to go easy.
Only you know what you can handle.

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

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"Bear" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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How many of you are not following low carb eating today? My partner is in
Cinncinatti today so our feast is tommorow. I'll be at work today serving

a

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Thanksgiving meal to the seniors (65 of them) and I will be really tempted
today because I have no control over the food and preparation. I could

just

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have the turkey and green beans almondine, but it will be hard to pass up
the stuffing, sweet potatoes and pumpkin pie.

Whatever you do, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere!

--
- Bear
Grrrrrrrr : o)
353/285/210

Thu said:

How many of you are not following low carb eating today? My partner is in
Cinncinatti today so our feast is tommorow. I'll be at work today serving a
Thanksgiving meal to the seniors (65 of them) and I will be really tempted
today because I have no control over the food and preparation. I could just
have the turkey and green beans almondine, but it will be hard to pass up
the stuffing, sweet potatoes and pumpkin pie.

Whatever you do, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere!

and a happy Thanksgiving to you and your partner.

Since I will be hosting dinner tonight, the food will be fairly low carb.

Cream of red pepper soup with bacon bits, caesar salad, citrus chipotle
turkey, broccoli mustard cheese bake. Carbs for my guests with corn
popovers & maple butter carrots. Friends will bring a dessert. I may treat
myself to a sprinkling of ciabatta/olive oil croutons on the salad and have
some Italian rosé wine with the food...

Petra in Hamburg, Germany

I'll be low carb, but my calories will be higher than usual.

Cubit
311/204/165

"Bear" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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How many of you are not following low carb eating today? My partner is in
Cinncinatti today so our feast is tommorow. I'll be at work today serving

a

Quoted message said:

Thanksgiving meal to the seniors (65 of them) and I will be really tempted
today because I have no control over the food and preparation. I could

just

Quoted message said:

have the turkey and green beans almondine, but it will be hard to pass up
the stuffing, sweet potatoes and pumpkin pie.

Whatever you do, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere!

--
- Bear
Grrrrrrrr : o)
353/285/210

Me too.

--
Cheri

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I'll be low carb, but my calories will be higher than usual.

Cubit
311/204/165

Bear said:

How many of you are not following low carb eating today? My partner is in
Cinncinatti today so our feast is tommorow. I'll be at work today serving a
Thanksgiving meal to the seniors (65 of them) and I will be really tempted
today because I have no control over the food and preparation. I could just
have the turkey and green beans almondine, but it will be hard to pass up
the stuffing, sweet potatoes and pumpkin pie.

Whatever you do, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere!

i'm going to eat moderate portions of whatever i want, just like i do
every day. the only thing i plan to splurge on is a piece of the
cheesecake i'm baking.

otherwise, it's just food. just like any other day.

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Quoted message said:

How many of you are not following low carb eating today? My partner is in
Cinncinatti today so our feast is tommorow. I'll be at work today serving a
Thanksgiving meal to the seniors (65 of them) and I will be really tempted
today because I have no control over the food and preparation. I could just
have the turkey and green beans almondine, but it will be hard to pass up
the stuffing, sweet potatoes and pumpkin pie.

I'll still be low-carbing. That's mostly because the rest of my family
are going to my sister's house in Sacramento, but with the air-
freshener, furniture polish, perfume/cologne and two cats, I couldn't BE
in her house for more than a few minutes without getting sick. My son
is going, though, and I'm there in spirit, if not in body. Even if I
DID go, I would still plan to stay low-carb, though. I would probably
bring something low-carb for my own dessert.

I miss getting together with my family as often, but I don't get
emotionally wrapped up in special holidays, partly just to be contrary.
It's wonderful that people use the holiday season to get together and it
works out well since most people get time off work in order to
accomplish it, but I've always been irked by the sensibility that so
many people think that you HAVE to be with people and HAVE to have a
huge turkey dinner simply because the calendar says so, and if you DON'T
have plans to do so, then you must be the lonliest and most pathetic
person on the planet. The media plays up this angle BIG TIME. So how
am I supposed to feel all the other days of the year? Sheesh!

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Whatever you do, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere!

Ditto!

--
Saffire
205/147/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

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Bear,

As far as I'm concerned, there are no carbs in any food consumed on
Thanksgiving, Christmas, or my Birthday. I've done that for years.

The one year I did a completely low carb Thanksgiving with none of our
family's traditional foods I got profoundly depressed and the next year I
decided to cut myself some slack.

You folks gotta get a grip on reality. IT'S ONLY FOOD. You eat to live.
Not reverse. Find other interests in your life to take the place of eating
dreams. I've been there, and can relate, but hell Thanksgiving is a
wonderful day for families to get together.... period!

--
*Atkins guy, 50 lbs permanently off over 6 years!

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

On a day like today there are "no carbs". It cures any feelings of
"left-outedness" and sure tastes good and above reminds me that "it's
okay"...I can live without this stuff in order to continue to lose weight.
It does taste good but is a nice way for me to enjoy the holiday. It
actually helps me stick with the diet.

I'm 20 lbs. less than I was a year ago (last year 165) and I hope by next
year to be hovering right around my final goal of 135.

Becky P.

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ace:

Quoted message said:

How many of you are not following low carb eating today? My partner is in
Cinncinatti today so our feast is tommorow. I'll be at work today serving a
Thanksgiving meal to the seniors (65 of them) and I will be really tempted
today because I have no control over the food and preparation. I could just
have the turkey and green beans almondine, but it will be hard to pass up
the stuffing, sweet potatoes and pumpkin pie.

Whatever you do, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere!

--
- Bear
Grrrrrrrr : o)
353/285/210

I ate higher-carb than usual -- sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, cranberry
sauce, butternut squash and pumpkin pie but it was all freshly prepared whole
foods with no refined, processed junk so I don't think it was too unhealthy.

***********************************
Robyn Lori Rosenthal
Sterling Cotons and Park Place Grooming
Sterling, VA USA
***********************************

"Bear" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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How many of you are not following low carb eating today? My partner is in
Cinncinatti today so our feast is tommorow. I'll be at work today serving a
Thanksgiving meal to the seniors (65 of them) and I will be really tempted
today because I have no control over the food and preparation. I could just
have the turkey and green beans almondine, but it will be hard to pass up
the stuffing, sweet potatoes and pumpkin pie.

Whatever you do, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere!

At our family gatherings we invariably have turkey, ham and meatballs
along with the assorted carbs like mashed potatoes, veggies, salad,
etc as well as the ever present gravy.

I find it easy to low carb it. Just go easy on the potatoes and gravy,
that's all. And no soda. Drink water. If you want to drink harder
stuff, try whisky and diet soda or a dry or low carb beer.

Keeping away from the snacks is easy if you've eaten a filling low
carb meal.

And avoid, at all costs, that first snack. It's the first one that'll
get you into big trouble 'cause you may not stop at one.

TC

I took nuts and a small brie to our gathering for snacks. I ate more
calories than usual but not more carbs.

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tcomeau <[email hidden]> stated
| At our family gatherings we invariably have turkey, ham and meatballs
| along with the assorted carbs like mashed potatoes, veggies, salad,
| etc as well as the ever present gravy.
|
| I find it easy to low carb it. Just go easy on the potatoes and gravy,
| that's all. And no soda. Drink water. If you want to drink harder
| stuff, try whisky and diet soda or a dry or low carb beer.
|
| Keeping away from the snacks is easy if you've eaten a filling low
| carb meal.
|
| And avoid, at all costs, that first snack. It's the first one that'll
| get you into big trouble 'cause you may not stop at one.
|
| TC

It is not just food. Social bonds are reinforced by eating in a group.
Additionally, I think there is an innate desire to occasionally feast.

Human survival has evolved patterns of eating that transcend the
intellectual process. These patterns coupled with the food supply we now
have leads to illness and obesity. So, we are fighting to change our way of
eating from what comes naturally. We are also probably fighting imprinting
of foods from an early age. Thus, to lose excess weight, and keep it off,
we need to be ever vigilant. Keeping an intellectual plan ahead of the
natural tendency requires reminders. It also seems to help to have a
support group.

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You folks gotta get a grip on reality. IT'S ONLY FOOD. You eat to live.
Not reverse. Find other interests in your life to take the place of eating
dreams. I've been there, and can relate, but hell Thanksgiving is a
wonderful day for families to get together.... period!

Results in Fitday:

Calories: 2454
Carbs: 60 (12%)

This was more carbs than I planned for. It mostly came from cashews and my
estimated 1.5 cups of "mixed vegetables."

Ketostix reads between Trace and Small.

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'll be low carb, but my calories will be higher than usual.

Cubit
311/204/165

"Bear" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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How many of you are not following low carb eating today? My partner is

in

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Quoted message said:

Cinncinatti today so our feast is tommorow. I'll be at work today

serving

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

Thanksgiving meal to the seniors (65 of them) and I will be really

tempted

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

today because I have no control over the food and preparation. I could

just

Quoted message said:

have the turkey and green beans almondine, but it will be hard to pass

up

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the stuffing, sweet potatoes and pumpkin pie.

Whatever you do, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone everywhere!

--
- Bear
Grrrrrrrr : o)
353/285/210

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: It is not just food. Social bonds are reinforced by eating in a group.
: Additionally, I think there is an innate desire to occasionally feast.
:
: Human survival has evolved patterns of eating that transcend the
: intellectual process. These patterns coupled with the food supply we now
: have leads to illness and obesity. So, we are fighting to change our way
of
: eating from what comes naturally. We are also probably fighting
imprinting
: of foods from an early age. Thus, to lose excess weight, and keep it off,
: we need to be ever vigilant. Keeping an intellectual plan ahead of the
: natural tendency requires reminders. It also seems to help to have a
: support group.

So, Thanksgiving has come and gone. The meal was marred by the constant "You
can't eat that!" and "Don't bother to pass that around, he can't eat that!"
and "I don't know why we have all this food because you can't eat most of
it!" or, turning to another person "We can keep this on our side of the
table!". This, to me, isn't "support"---it's more like constant nagging. I
have been on the low carb way of eating for almost a year and a half now
(and haven't gained the weight back). It is nobody's business to monitor
what I eat, even if they are relatives. Even when we decide to go out to
eat, I get a constant "Oh, we can't go there! They won't have anything you
can eat!" I keep having to say, "I'm grown up, now, let me decide what I
can and cannot eat!" One of our family is diabetic and nobody constantly
says "We can't go there to eat---he's a diabetic!"

Okay, rant over. They're just wearing me down, I guess. I'm tired of it.

Pat in TX

Are you male or female?

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: It is not just food. Social bonds are reinforced by eating in a group.
: Additionally, I think there is an innate desire to occasionally feast.
:
: Human survival has evolved patterns of eating that transcend the
: intellectual process. These patterns coupled with the food supply we
now
: have leads to illness and obesity. So, we are fighting to change our
way
of
: eating from what comes naturally. We are also probably fighting
imprinting
: of foods from an early age. Thus, to lose excess weight, and keep it
off,
: we need to be ever vigilant. Keeping an intellectual plan ahead of the
: natural tendency requires reminders. It also seems to help to have a
: support group.

So, Thanksgiving has come and gone. The meal was marred by the constant
"You
can't eat that!" and "Don't bother to pass that around, he can't eat
that!"
and "I don't know why we have all this food because you can't eat most of
it!" or, turning to another person "We can keep this on our side of the
table!". This, to me, isn't "support"---it's more like constant nagging.
I
have been on the low carb way of eating for almost a year and a half now
(and haven't gained the weight back). It is nobody's business to monitor
what I eat, even if they are relatives. Even when we decide to go out to
eat, I get a constant "Oh, we can't go there! They won't have anything you
can eat!" I keep having to say, "I'm grown up, now, let me decide what I
can and cannot eat!" One of our family is diabetic and nobody constantly
says "We can't go there to eat---he's a diabetic!"

Okay, rant over. They're just wearing me down, I guess. I'm tired of it.

Pat in TX

Makes me thankful for my tolerant family, they are curious and ask me
questions but we have vegetarians and omnivores and we all respect each
other's choices. Of course, that doesn't include my stepmother who is now
in a nursing home and unable to join us. But she didn't criticize our
eating, just always commented on what she didn't like or couldn't eat. But I
didn't have the opportunity to train her as I did with my children, maybe
they are tolerant because I am.

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Pat <[email hidden]> stated
| So, Thanksgiving has come and gone. The meal was marred by the
| constant "You can't eat that!" and "Don't bother to pass that around,
| he can't eat that!" and "I don't know why we have all this food
| because you can't eat most of it!" or, turning to another person "We
| can keep this on our side of the table!". This, to me, isn't
| "support"---it's more like constant nagging. I have been on the low
| carb way of eating for almost a year and a half now (and haven't
| gained the weight back). It is nobody's business to monitor what I
| eat, even if they are relatives. Even when we decide to go out to
| eat, I get a constant "Oh, we can't go there! They won't have
| anything you can eat!" I keep having to say, "I'm grown up, now, let
| me decide what I can and cannot eat!" One of our family is diabetic
| and nobody constantly says "We can't go there to eat---he's a
| diabetic!"
|
| Okay, rant over. They're just wearing me down, I guess. I'm tired of
| it.
|
| Pat in TX

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So, Thanksgiving has come and gone. The meal was marred by the constant
"You
can't eat that!" and "Don't bother to pass that around, he can't eat
that!"
and "I don't know why we have all this food because you can't eat most of
it!" or, turning to another person "We can keep this on our side of the
table!". This, to me, isn't "support"---it's more like constant nagging.

Sympathy. My Dad's improved no end since I threw a plate of spaghetti and
sauce over him : ) Not necessarily recommended for your situation, but
please feel free to enjoy the mental image : )

Nicky.

--
HbA1c 10.5/6.4/<6 Weight 95/79/72
1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

Nicky said:

"Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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So, Thanksgiving has come and gone. The meal was marred by the constant
"You
can't eat that!" and "Don't bother to pass that around, he can't eat
that!"
and "I don't know why we have all this food because you can't eat most of
it!" or, turning to another person "We can keep this on our side of the
table!". This, to me, isn't "support"---it's more like constant nagging.

Sympathy. My Dad's improved no end since I threw a plate of spaghetti and
sauce over him : ) Not necessarily recommended for your situation, but
please feel free to enjoy the mental image : )

Nicky.

I learned a long time ago to not make an issue of changing my eating
habits. Any attempt at self-improvement on my part would be construed
as trying to ruin my mother's life...LOL Good GRIEF!!! You aren't
eating chocolate cake? Well thanks for telling me about that before I
baked it...*sarcasm* - As if I were the only one at the dinner table
that she took the time to prepare dessert for...LOL

For the last year or so I have just done my thing, eaten what I want,
and left the table when I've had enough. About the same thing
so-called 'normal' eaters do.

Lybbe
Highest Weight - 308
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 214.5
Goal - 150

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For the last year or so I have just done my thing, eaten what I want,
and left the table when I've had enough. About the same thing
so-called 'normal' eaters do.

Lybbe
Highest Weight - 308
Started Bernstein Diet October 2, 2004 - 243.0
Today's weight - 214.5
Goal - 150

And boy! do your figures show it! Fantastic!

Nicky.

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HbA1c 10.5/6.4/<6 Weight 95/79/72
1g Metformin, 75ug Thyroxine
T2 DX 05/2004

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