Question for Cohen

ATP* said:

what routine do you recommend for atoning?

Confess your sins my son.

"ATP*" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David, what routine do you recommend for atoning?

1) Steps 4 through 10, 12 step program, or
2) Catholic confessional, or
3) 24 hours of prayer while fasting, or
4) Conversion to atheism

And it's not a-toning! It's a-building muscle and losing fat.

David

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:12:04 -0400, "WB \"Smith\""

Bill'Smith'@comcast.net said:

ATP* said:

what routine do you recommend for atoning?

Confess your sins my son.

Oh, every sunday, at the church of atonement.

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"ATP*" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David, what routine do you recommend for atoning?

1) Steps 4 through 10, 12 step program, or
2) Catholic confessional, or
3) 24 hours of prayer while fasting, or
4) Conversion to atheism

And it's not a-toning! It's a-building muscle and losing fat.

David

Thank you. But is any program really complete without self-mortification?

David Cohen said:

"ATP*" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David, what routine do you recommend for atoning?

1) Steps 4 through 10, 12 step program, or
2) Catholic confessional, or
3) 24 hours of prayer while fasting, or
4) Conversion to atheism

And it's not a-toning! It's a-building muscle and losing fat.

David

Can one convert to atheism?

Anyway, why not try a new-old way to vicariously atone - but this time
not through another human being. A hen, a rooster, or money can be
used to rid oneself of sins.

From the Chassidic Masters
"How I do kaparot?" repeated Rabbi Elimelech. "I do what everyone else
does. I hold the rooster in one hand, the prayer book in the other,
and recite: This is my exchange, this is in my stead, this is my
atonement..."
http://www.chabad.org/search/keyword.asp?kid=4381

Re toning. . .what happens to skeletal muscle activity that you can't
voluntarily control? The answer requires decades of meditation,
contemplation, and spiritual discipline - or a few seconds reading a
web page.

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