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  1. Is there any product that can clear clogged arteries, that
    has not got anything to do with surgery, springs, etc?

    Any nutritional supplement, medication, etc. that can do
    that?

    It's most likely some kind of quackery, but I just want to
    ask - is there anything in this "angioprim" product?
    anginacure.comheartcleaning.htm

    (I'm not promoting anything, but I'm just at least
    intellectually exploring all possibilities.)

    Alex

  2. Alex said:

    Is there any product that can clear clogged arteries, that
    has not got anything to do with surgery, springs, etc?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:


    Any nutritional supplement, medication, etc. that can
    do that?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:


    It's most likely some kind of quackery, but I just want to
    ask - is there anything in this "angioprim" product?
    anginacure.comheartcleaning.htm

    No.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  3. Alex said:

    Is there any product that can clear clogged arteries, that
    has not got anything to do with surgery, springs, etc?

    Someone correct me (with the swiftness of wild horses the
    case may be) : I have been told that research has determined
    that hdl cholesterol in the blood actually reduces plaque in
    artery walls.

    Is that true ?? If so, exercise alot and eat like a Greek.

    liaM

  4. So dr. what are they ????Balsey
    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Alex said:

    Is there any product that can clear clogged arteries,
    that has not got anything to do with surgery,
    springs, etc?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:


    Any nutritional supplement, medication, etc. that can
    do that?

    Yes.

    Quoted message said:


    It's most likely some kind of quackery, but I just want
    to ask - is there anything in this "angioprim" product?
    anginacure.comheartcleaning.htm

    No.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    ** Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam? makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  5. Balsey said:


    So dr. what are they ????Balsey

    They have already been discussed.

    Would suggest you either use Google or go to:

    heartmdphd.commedfaqs.asp

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    heartmdphd.comheartmdphd.com

    **
    Who is the humblest person in the universe?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    What is all this about?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

    Is this spam?
    makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

  6. [email hidden] (doe) wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Question: Clearing Arteries? From: "Balsey"
    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    So dr. what are they ????Balsey

    You should look into CLA / conjugated linoleic acid .. and
    the studies which have them declaring ..

    alkalizeforhealth.netLcla.htm

    Might want to look at this, also: tinyurl.com372bk
    --
    Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

  7. [email hidden] (doe) wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Question: Clearing Arteries? From: "Balsey"
    [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    So dr. what are they ????Balsey

    You should look into CLA / conjugated linoleic acid .. and
    the studies which have them declaring ..

    alkalizeforhealth.netLcla.htm

    Might want to look at this, also: tinyurl.com372bk
    --
    Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA

  8. "Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there any product that can clear clogged arteries, that
    has not got anything to do with surgery, springs, etc?

    Any nutritional supplement, medication, etc. that can
    do that?

    It's most likely some kind of quackery, but I just want to
    ask - is there anything in this "angioprim" product?
    anginacure.comheartcleaning.htm

    (I'm not promoting anything, but I'm just at least
    intellectually exploring all possibilities.)

    Alex

    Alex:

    Nutritional supplement -- no. but there is a product in
    clinical trials managed by Cleveland Clinic that will do
    just what you ask and many are pretty excited about it.

    see: forrelease.comcltu044.P1.1104200
    3132644.25792.html

    Study Shows Infusions of Synthetic HDL 'Good Cholesterol'
    Can Remove Plaque From Coronary Arteries

    Results of Cleveland Clinic-Directed Study to Appear
    Nov. 5 in JAMA

    CLEVELAND, Nov. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Do 40 people in a
    small village in rural Italy hold the key to reversing
    plaque buildup in coronary arteries? A new study
    appearing in the Nov. 5 edition of the Journal of the
    American Medical Association provides strong evidence
    that five weekly infusions of a synthetic form of "good
    cholesterol," or HDL, can remove significant amounts of
    plaque from these arteries.

    "This is an extraordinary and unprecedented finding," said
    Cleveland Clinic cardiologist Steven E. Nissen, M.D., who
    directed the 10-center nationwide study. "This is the first
    convincing demonstration that targeting HDL, good
    cholesterol, can benefit patients with heart disease, the
    leading cause of death in the United States."

    The development of this investigational drug is an unusual
    story. About 30 years ago, researchers discovered 40
    individuals in Limone Sul Garda in Northern Italy who
    appeared perfectly healthy, despite having very low levels
    of good cholesterol. Ordinarily, such people would have a
    high risk of heart disease, but these people did not.
    Intrigued, researchers wanted to find out why. Their studies
    revealed a variant in a protein known as Apolipoprotein A-
    I, which is a component of HDL. This variant was named ApoA-
    I Milano after the city of Milan, where the initial
    laboratory work was done.

    ApoA-I Milano is being developed into a potential treatment
    for heart disease by Esperion Therapeutics Inc., an Ann
    Arbor, Mich.-based biopharmaceutical company. Esperion's
    investigational treatment, designated ETC-216, is a
    recombinant version of ApoA-I Milano combined with a
    phospholipid. After pre-clinical studies showed rapid
    removal of plaques from diseased arteries, scientists at
    Esperion came to Dr. Nissen to help them design a study to
    determine whether infusions of the ApoA-I
    Milano/phospholipid complex could reverse coronary plaque
    buildup in patients with heart disease.

    The Cleveland Clinic-directed study administered the ApoA-I
    Milano/phospholipid complex intravenously over a five-week
    period to a randomized group of patients initially
    hospitalized for acute chest pain. Researchers measured
    arterial plaques using intravascular ultrasound (IVUS)
    before and after the six-week study. Patients who were given
    the synthetic protein showed a dramatic decrease in arterial
    plaques, whereas a comparison group given saline showed no
    change in plaques.

    Atherosclerosis, sometimes known as "hardening of the
    arteries," is the process by which fatty deposits build up
    on the inner lining of artery walls, creating plaques. These
    plaques can grow large enough to significantly reduce blood
    flow. If the plaques rupture, they can cut off blood flow to
    vital organs, including the heart, causing heart attacks.

    Traditional therapies for atherosclerosis focus on lowering
    levels of "bad" cholesterol, known as LDL. Although high
    levels of HDL have been shown to be beneficial, the clinical
    significance of targeting HDL therapeutically was unknown.
    This trial sought to test that possibility.

    Dr. Nissen cautions that, "Much more testing needs to be
    performed to determine whether this unique form of
    HDL can be used routinely to treat patients with
    atherosclerosis." He emphasized that the current
    clinical trial was a small "proof of concept" study,
    designed only to demonstrate the potential of this
    new therapy.

    "People should not view new therapies as a 'magic-bullet'
    cure. For most of us, medicines will never replace the need
    to make healthy lifestyle choices," Nissen said.

    "Nonetheless, this study represents a paradigm shift," he
    continued, "offering new hope for a devastating and common
    disease. We now know that it is possible to actively remove
    cholesterol plaques from the coronary arteries with drugs. I
    am confident that eventually this approach will make a
    significant difference in the care of patients with coronary
    heart disease."

    Study Details

    The ApoA-I Milano trial involved 57 acute coronary
    syndrome patients in a randomized, prospective, double-
    blind, multicenter clinical trial conducted from November
    2001 to March 2003. All patients had experienced an acute
    coronary syndrome, either unstable angina (severe chest
    pain) or heart attack. Each patient had a single coronary
    artery examined using IVUS within two weeks following the
    cardiac event.

    IVUS technology gives doctors the ability to visualize
    coronary plaques using high-frequency sound waves. The
    procedure is performed along with cardiac catheterization.
    Doctors are able to see detailed images of the interior
    walls of the arteries and precisely measure the size of the
    plaques inside the artery.

    Patients were randomized to three treatment groups --
    placebo, low dose or high dose of intravenous recombinant
    ApoA-I Milano/phospholipid complex. The study drug was
    administered as a weekly intravenous infusion for a total of
    five weeks. Patients underwent IVUS of the originally imaged
    coronary artery for a second time within two weeks following
    the final infusion. The second images then were compared
    with baseline images to compare plaque levels. Researchers
    found a statistically significant change in volume of the
    thickened, fatty lining inside the arteries of patients who
    had received either the high or the low dose of intravenous
    recombinant ApoA-I Milano/phospholipid complex.

    The trial was conducted in 10 community and tertiary care
    hospitals throughout the United States. Researchers at The
    Cleveland Clinic reviewed all IVUS examinations without
    knowing which patients had received which type of infusion.
    Esperion Therapeutics funded this study.

    The Cleveland Clinic Foundation, located in Cleveland, Ohio,
    is a not-for- profit multispecialty academic medical center
    that integrates clinical and hospital care with research and
    education. The Cleveland Clinic was founded in 1921 by four
    renowned physicians with a vision of providing outstanding
    patient care based upon the principles of cooperation,
    compassion and innovation. U.S. News & World Report
    consistently names The Cleveland Clinic as one of the
    nation's best hospitals in its annual "America's Best
    Hospitals" survey. In 2003, The Cleveland Clinic is ranked
    fifth overall. Approximately 1,200 full-time salaried
    physicians at The Cleveland Clinic and Cleveland Clinic
    Florida represent more than 100 medical specialties and
    subspecialties. In 2002, there were nearly 2.5 million
    outpatient visits to The Cleveland Clinic and more than
    52,000 hospital admissions. Patients came for treatment from
    every state and from more than 90 countries. The Cleveland
    Clinic website address is clevelandclinic.orgclevelandclinic.org .

    CONTACT: Alicia Sokol, +1-216-445-9661, or Eileen
    Caruso Sheil,

    +1-216-444-8927, both of The Cleveland Clinic Foundation

    Web site: clevelandclinic.orgclevelandclinic.org

  9. "Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there any product that can clear clogged arteries, that
    has not got anything to do with surgery, springs, etc?

    Any nutritional supplement, medication, etc. that can
    do that?

    It's most likely some kind of quackery, but I just want to
    ask - is there anything in this "angioprim" product?
    anginacure.comheartcleaning.htm

    (I'm not promoting anything, but I'm just at least
    intellectually exploring all possibilities.)

    Alex

    Eating Yucca root daily is a good start. Do a search and
    just read about that food. I myself eat it at least four
    times a weekly.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>, Alex
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Is there any product that can clear clogged arteries, that
    has not got anything to do with surgery, springs, etc?

    Any nutritional supplement, medication, etc. that can do
    that?

    It's most likely some kind of quackery, but I just want to
    ask - is there anything in this "angioprim" product?
    anginacure.comheartcleaning.htm

    (I'm not promoting anything, but I'm just at least
    intellectually exploring all possibilities.)

    Alex


    Counterpulsation seems to assist the forming of
    replacement arteries round the heart. Not quackery but not
    popular with surgeons?
    --
    ddwyer

  11. Thanks a lot for this info.

    I'm following this up as far as I can.

    Alex

    "J Stutzmann" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht ne-
    ws:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Alex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there any product that can clear clogged arteries,
    that has not got anything to do with surgery,
    springs, etc?

    Any nutritional supplement, medication, etc. that can
    do that?

    It's most likely some kind of quackery, but I just want
    to ask - is there anything in this "angioprim" product?
    anginacure.comheartcleaning.htm

    (I'm not promoting anything, but I'm just at least
    intellectually exploring all possibilities.)

    Alex

    Alex:

    Nutritional supplement -- no. but there is a product in
    clinical trials managed by Cleveland Clinic that will do
    just what you ask and many are pretty excited about it.

    see: forrelease.comcltu044.P1.11042
    003132644.25792.html

    Study Shows Infusions of Synthetic HDL 'Good Cholesterol'
    Can Remove Plaque From Coronary Arteries

    Results of Cleveland Clinic-Directed Study to Appear Nov.
    5 in JAMA

    CLEVELAND, Nov. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Do 40 people in a small
    village in rural Italy hold the key to reversing plaque
    buildup in coronary arteries? A new study appearing in the
    Nov. 5 edition of the Journal of the American Medical
    Association provides strong evidence that five weekly
    infusions of a synthetic form of "good cholesterol," or
    HDL, can remove significant amounts of plaque from these
    arteries.

    "This is an extraordinary and unprecedented finding," said
    Cleveland Clinic cardiologist Steven E. Nissen, M.D., who
    directed the 10-center nationwide study. "This is the
    first convincing demonstration that targeting HDL, good
    cholesterol, can benefit patients with heart disease, the
    leading cause of death in the United States."

    The development of this investigational drug is an unusual
    story. About 30 years ago, researchers discovered 40
    individuals in Limone Sul Garda in Northern Italy who
    appeared perfectly healthy, despite having very low levels
    of good cholesterol. Ordinarily, such people would have a
    high risk of heart disease, but these people did not.
    Intrigued, researchers wanted to find out why. Their
    studies revealed a variant in a protein known as
    Apolipoprotein A- I, which is a component of HDL. This
    variant was named ApoA-I Milano after the city of Milan,
    where the initial laboratory work was done.

    ApoA-I Milano is being developed into a potential
    treatment for heart disease by Esperion Therapeutics Inc.,
    an Ann Arbor, Mich.-based biopharmaceutical company.
    Esperion's investigational treatment, designated ETC-216,
    is a recombinant version of ApoA-I Milano combined with a
    phospholipid. After pre-clinical studies showed rapid
    removal of plaques from diseased arteries, scientists at
    Esperion came to Dr. Nissen to help them design a study to
    determine whether infusions of the ApoA-I
    Milano/phospholipid complex could reverse coronary plaque
    buildup in patients with heart disease.

    The Cleveland Clinic-directed study administered the ApoA-
    I Milano/phospholipid complex intravenously over a five-
    week period to a randomized group of patients initially
    hospitalized for acute chest pain. Researchers measured
    arterial plaques using intravascular ultrasound (IVUS)
    before and after the six-week study. Patients who were
    given the synthetic protein showed a dramatic decrease in
    arterial plaques, whereas a comparison group given saline
    showed no change in plaques.

    Atherosclerosis, sometimes known as "hardening of the
    arteries," is the process by which fatty deposits build up
    on the inner lining of artery walls, creating plaques.
    These plaques can grow large enough to significantly
    reduce blood flow. If the plaques rupture, they can cut
    off blood flow to vital organs, including the heart,
    causing heart attacks.

    Traditional therapies for atherosclerosis focus on
    lowering levels of "bad" cholesterol, known as LDL.
    Although high levels of HDL have been shown to be
    beneficial, the clinical significance of targeting HDL
    therapeutically was unknown. This trial sought to test
    that possibility.

    Dr. Nissen cautions that, "Much more testing needs to be
    performed to determine whether this unique form of HDL
    can be used routinely to treat patients with
    atherosclerosis." He emphasized that the current
    clinical trial was a small "proof of concept" study,
    designed only to demonstrate the potential of this new
    therapy.

    "People should not view new therapies as a 'magic-bullet'
    cure. For most of us, medicines will never replace the
    need to make healthy lifestyle choices," Nissen said.

    "Nonetheless, this study represents a paradigm shift," he
    continued, "offering new hope for a devastating and common
    disease. We now know that it is possible to actively
    remove cholesterol plaques from the coronary arteries with
    drugs. I am confident that eventually this approach will
    make a significant difference in the care of patients with
    coronary heart disease."

    Study Details

    The ApoA-I Milano trial involved 57 acute coronary
    syndrome patients in a randomized, prospective, double-
    blind, multicenter clinical trial conducted from November
    2001 to March 2003. All patients had experienced an acute
    coronary syndrome, either unstable angina (severe chest
    pain) or heart attack. Each patient had a single coronary
    artery examined using IVUS within two weeks following the
    cardiac event.

    IVUS technology gives doctors the ability to visualize
    coronary plaques using high-frequency sound waves. The
    procedure is performed along with cardiac catheterization.
    Doctors are able to see detailed images of the interior
    walls of the arteries and precisely measure the size of
    the plaques inside the artery.

    Patients were randomized to three treatment groups --
    placebo, low dose or high dose of intravenous recombinant
    ApoA-I Milano/phospholipid complex. The study drug was
    administered as a weekly intravenous infusion for a total
    of five weeks. Patients underwent IVUS of the originally
    imaged coronary artery for a second time within two weeks
    following the final infusion. The second images then were
    compared with baseline images to compare plaque levels.
    Researchers found a statistically significant change in
    volume of the thickened, fatty lining inside the arteries
    of patients who had received either the high or the low
    dose of intravenous recombinant ApoA-I Milano/phospholipid
    complex.

    The trial was conducted in 10 community and tertiary care
    hospitals throughout the United States. Researchers at The
    Cleveland Clinic reviewed all IVUS examinations without
    knowing which patients had received which type of
    infusion. Esperion Therapeutics funded this study.

    The Cleveland Clinic Foundation, located in Cleveland,
    Ohio, is a not-for- profit multispecialty academic medical
    center that integrates clinical and hospital care with
    research and education. The Cleveland Clinic was founded
    in 1921 by four renowned physicians with a vision of
    providing outstanding patient care based upon the
    principles of cooperation, compassion and innovation. U.S.
    News & World Report consistently names The Cleveland
    Clinic as one of the nation's best hospitals in its annual
    "America's Best Hospitals" survey. In 2003, The Cleveland
    Clinic is ranked fifth overall. Approximately 1,200 full-
    time salaried physicians at The Cleveland Clinic and
    Cleveland Clinic Florida represent more than 100 medical
    specialties and subspecialties. In 2002, there were nearly
    2.5 million outpatient visits to The Cleveland Clinic and
    more than 52,000 hospital admissions. Patients came for
    treatment from every state and from more than 90
    countries. The Cleveland Clinic website address is
    clevelandclinic.orgclevelandclinic.org .

    CONTACT: Alicia Sokol, +1-216-445-9661, or Eileen
    Caruso Sheil,

    +1-216-444-8927, both of The Cleveland Clinic Foundation

    Web site: clevelandclinic.orgclevelandclinic.org

  12. d

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:



    Counterpulsation seems to assist the forming of
    replacement arteries round the heart. Not quackery but not
    popular with surgeons?

    Has anyone ever tried this? What were the results. And, if
    it does work it might explain why surgeons don't like it!
    (Money money money!) Does the counterpulsation increase risk
    for aortic aneryism? Does anyone remember those trials when
    they would inject compounds taken from shark cartilidge into
    the heart in order to create new vessel growth? As well, I
    heard that the chemical "brain" behind cancer which promotes
    sudden growth of vessels in order to feed the cancerous
    tumor was being looked at as a possibility at encouraging
    growth of vessels in the heart, but then they'd also have
    unlocked the secret to curing cancer if they find that!

  13. Sandy said:

    d

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Counterpulsation seems to assist the forming of
    replacement arteries round the heart. Not quackery but not
    popular with surgeons?

    Has anyone ever tried this?

    I'd have tried it had I known about it. I would guess that
    capillarization of blood around an obstruction must be
    visible and measurable and that counter-pulsation must have
    some undergone various degrees of validation..

    As concerns the effectiveness of the tibetan/swiss remedy
    "Padma" (available over the counter in Switzerland and the
    USA), I've seen a lengthy TV documentary showing its
    effectiveness (dramatic.. in one instance of
    artherosclerosis : being able to walk after treatment where
    before the patient was immobilized).

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