Question about salt and water

welcome to the group, I think given your circumstances if I were you I would
consult with my medical person to discuss what is best in your situation.
Having said that the water flushes out the salt and thereby helps you to not
retain water, good luck, Lee
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Hi, I've been reading your very informative group for
about 2 months and have thoroughly enjoyed the posts. I
joined WW on Jan.8 and have lost 16.2 lbs. so far. This
group has been invaluable for me in achieving this. Thanks
everyone!!

I have a question that perhaps has already been answered
at this site on the "index" page: (
dietchef.ecorp.netwater.htmOpen ↗ ) but
for some unknown reason, my browser won't open the page.

So, this probably sounds really dumb, but...... I'm
curious about the need and reason why it's advised to
increase one's consumption of water when salty food is
consumed? Because I have a (sometimes) problem with an
electrolyte imbalance, at times I need to increase my salt
intake. I would appreciate any info I can get on this
subject.

TIA, Zakky

Zakky said:

Hi, I've been reading your very informative group for
about 2 months and have thoroughly enjoyed the posts. I
joined WW on Jan.8 and have lost 16.2 lbs. so far. This
group has been invaluable for me in achieving this. Thanks
everyone!!

I have a question that perhaps has already been answered
at this site on the "index" page: (
dietchef.ecorp.netwater.htmOpen ↗ ) but
for some unknown reason, my browser won't open the page.

So, this probably sounds really dumb, but...... I'm
curious about the need and reason why it's advised to
increase one's consumption of water when salty food is
consumed? Because I have a (sometimes) problem with an
electrolyte imbalance, at times I need to increase my salt
intake. I would appreciate any info I can get on this
subject.

TIA, Zakky

Salt tends to increase water retention, so flushing it out
with a little extra helps it to go sooner.

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Drinking lots of water helps flush out excess salt in your
body. Salt can cause water retention for some. So the more
you drink the less you will retain.

BTW, it is not your browser. I could not open up the site
either. Maybe the site is down or has moved.

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Hi, I've been reading your very informative group for
about 2 months and have thoroughly enjoyed the posts. I
joined WW on Jan.8 and have lost 16.2 lbs. so far. This
group has been invaluable for me in achieving this. Thanks
everyone!!

I have a question that perhaps has already been answered
at this site on the "index" page: (
dietchef.ecorp.netwater.htmOpen ↗ ) but
for some unknown reason, my browser won't open the page.

So, this probably sounds really dumb, but...... I'm
curious about the need and reason why it's advised to
increase one's consumption of water when salty food is
consumed? Because I have a (sometimes) problem with an
electrolyte imbalance, at times I need to increase my salt
intake. I would appreciate any info I can get on this
subject.

TIA, Zakky

I'll second what Lee said. Talk with your doctor about this
as your situation may be different. Claudia's pages were
always only general information. I think the link is dead
and has been for a while, but I may have a general
explanation similar to what was on her site for you.

Cells have walls which keep cell functions in an enclosed
area. These walls keep the equilibrium of what is inside the
cell and what is outside of the cell-usually it's the
electrolytes, which are basically minerals. The cell wall
will not immediately absorb or expel so there is a bit of
lag time when imbalance needs to be corrected.

When one eats salty items, it ends up in the blood stream
and is carried through out various body parts and fluids.
The cells try to make the contents of their cells equal to
what is on the other side of the fluid it is surrounded by.
The wall is the passage. If the surroundings of the cells
are overly high in salt, the wall will let the salt in to
balance itself. Once one becomes hydrated, the cell wants to
expel the salt, but this will only happen if there is less
of the mineral on the outside of the cell than on the inside
of the cell.

This is a very general explanation. Different cells have
different features.

Julie

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welcome to the group, I think given your circumstances if
I were you I

would

Quoted message said:

consult with my medical person to discuss what is best in
your situation. Having said that the water flushes out the
salt and thereby helps you to

not

Quoted message said:

retain water, good luck, Lee Zakky <[email hidden]>
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Quoted message said:

Hi, I've been reading your very informative group for
about 2 months and have thoroughly enjoyed the posts. I
joined WW on Jan.8 and have lost 16.2 lbs. so far. This
group has been invaluable for me in achieving this.
Thanks everyone!!

I have a question that perhaps has already been
answered at this site on the "index" page: (
dietchef.ecorp.netwater.htmOpen ↗ )
but for some unknown reason, my browser won't open
the page.

So, this probably sounds really dumb, but...... I'm
curious about the need and reason why it's advised to
increase one's consumption of water when salty food is
consumed? Because I have a (sometimes) problem with an
electrolyte imbalance, at times I need to increase my
salt intake. I would appreciate any info I can get on
this subject.

TIA, Zakky

As the others have said, water helps remove salt from the
body. Since salt appears to help retain water, it gives a
false weight impression in some people but is clearly not
associated with having too much body fat but still appears
on the scale which some folks do not want.

But if you have an imbalance, as suggested, this is
something to discuss with your doctor. You may not want or
care to deal with salt as a water retention issue. And you
certainly may not want to flush out other water soluble
electrolytes.

Zakky said:

Hi, I've been reading your very informative group for about
2 months and have thoroughly enjoyed the posts. I joined WW
on Jan.8 and have lost 16.2 lbs. so far. This group has
been invaluable for me in achieving this. Thanks everyone!!

I have a question that perhaps has already been answered at
this site on the "index" page: (
dietchef.ecorp.netwater.htmOpen ↗ ) but
for some unknown reason, my browser won't open the page.

So, this probably sounds really dumb, but...... I'm curious
about the need and reason why it's advised to increase
one's consumption of water when salty food is consumed?
Because I have a (sometimes) problem with an electrolyte
imbalance, at times I need to increase my salt intake. I
would appreciate any info I can get on this subject.

TIA, Zakky

Miss Violette said:

welcome to the group,

Nice to be here in the company of such a neat group. 🙂

Quoted message said:

I think given your circumstances if I were you I would
consult with my medical person to discuss what is best in
your situation.

I have, (about the electrolyte imbalance), but I always
seem to get less than satisfactory explanations and just
end up being confused on what to do. Because I'm "blessed"
with numerous allergies, asthma and HBP, I personally think
it's the multiple meds that I have to take that gives me
the imbalance. But both the "BP" doc and the
"asthma/allergy" doc are very sketchy about the side
affects of the meds they prescribe for me....seemingly
loathe to place the blame there.

Quoted message said:

Having said that the water flushes out the salt and thereby
helps you to not retain water, good luck, Lee

Thanks, Lee.

Zakky

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:36:02 GMT, "Laura" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Drinking lots of water helps flush out excess salt in your
body. Salt can cause water retention for some. So the more
you drink the less you will retain.

Makes sense to me now. Thanks to everyone for answering me.

Quoted message said:

BTW, it is not your browser. I could not open up the
site either.

For reasons unknown to me, my computer won't allow me to
completely download IE6 since my last crash, so I have had
problems opening certain pages with
IE5.5. Glad to hear that this wasn't the problem, this
time. (WinME *stinks*!! 😉

Zakky

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 09:55:02 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

As the others have said, water helps remove salt from the
body. Since salt appears to help retain water, it gives a
false weight impression in some people but is clearly not
associated with having too much body fat but still appears
on the scale which some folks do not want.

But what about needing to daily drink half of one's body
weight in ounces to get the pounds to come off? Can a person
steadily loose without drinking copious amounts of water?

Quoted message said:

But if you have an imbalance, as suggested, this is
something to discuss with your doctor. You may not want or
care to deal with salt as a water retention issue. And you
certainly may not want to flush out other water soluble
electrolytes.

I know you're right. I don't dare consume too much or I'll
get into big trouble with my sodium and chloride levels. I'm
just hoping that it's possible to lose weight without
drinking large amounts of water. Zakky

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 11:00:59 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I'll second what Lee said. Talk with your doctor about this
as your situation may be different. Claudia's pages were
always only general information. I think the link is dead
and has been for a while, but I may have a general
explanation similar to what was on her site for you.

Cells have walls which keep cell functions in an enclosed
area. These walls keep the equilibrium of what is inside
the cell and what is outside of the cell-usually it's the
electrolytes, which are basically minerals. The cell wall
will not immediately absorb or expel so there is a bit of
lag time when imbalance needs to be corrected.

When one eats salty items, it ends up in the blood stream
and is carried through out various body parts and fluids.
The cells try to make the contents of their cells equal to
what is on the other side of the fluid it is surrounded by.
The wall is the passage. If the surroundings of the cells
are overly high in salt, the wall will let the salt in to
balance itself. Once one becomes hydrated, the cell wants
to expel the salt, but this will only happen if there is
less of the mineral on the outside of the cell than on the
inside of the cell

.....thus the need to drink enough water to accomplish that.
I see now. Thanks, Julie. (Are you a teacher, by chance? You
certainly have a way with explaining things so that it's
easy to understand.)

Zakky

I am allergic to a list of stuff as long as your arm, Have you considered
looking for medical help that is more forthcoming. I know this not always
possible but I just wanted to ask in case you had not considered it. Good
luck, Lee
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Miss Violette said:

welcome to the group,

Nice to be here in the company of such a neat group. 🙂

Quoted message said:

I think given your circumstances if I were you I would
consult with my medical person to discuss what is best
in your situation.

I have, (about the electrolyte imbalance), but I always
seem to get less than satisfactory explanations and just
end up being confused on what to do. Because I'm "blessed"
with numerous allergies, asthma and HBP, I personally
think it's the multiple meds that I have to take that
gives me the imbalance. But both the "BP" doc and the
"asthma/allergy" doc are very sketchy about the side
affects of the meds they prescribe for me....seemingly
loathe to place the blame there.

Quoted message said:

Having said that the water flushes out the salt and
thereby helps you to

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

retain water, good luck, Lee

Thanks, Lee.

Zakky

as with all things, it differs from person to person, good luck Lee
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Fred said:

As the others have said, water helps remove salt from the
body. Since salt appears to help retain water, it gives a
false weight impression in some people but is clearly not
associated with having too much body fat but still
appears on the scale which some folks do not want.

But what about needing to daily drink half of one's body
weight in ounces to get the pounds to come off? Can a
person steadily loose without drinking copious amounts
of water?

Quoted message said:

But if you have an imbalance, as suggested, this is
something to discuss with your doctor. You may not want
or care to deal with salt as a water retention issue. And
you certainly may not want to flush out other water
soluble electrolytes.

I know you're right. I don't dare consume too much or I'll
get into big trouble with my sodium and chloride levels.
I'm just hoping that it's possible to lose weight without
drinking large amounts of water. Zakky

Hi Zakky,

Not a teacher, but wouldn't mind becoming one. I'm a
Chemical Engineer with a strength for explaining the
technical. I'm one of those people who always liked science
because it "did cool stuff", but found out that I didn't
actually want to do typical/hard core engineering tasks
about one semester before graduation.

Julie

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skiur said:

I'll second what Lee said. Talk with your doctor about
this as your situation may be different. Claudia's pages
were always only general information. I think the link is
dead and has been for a while, but I

may

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

have a general explanation similar to what was on her
site for you.

Cells have walls which keep cell functions in an enclosed
area. These

walls

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

keep the equilibrium of what is inside the cell and what
is outside of

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cell-usually it's the electrolytes, which are basically
minerals. The

cell

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

wall will not immediately absorb or expel so there is a
bit of lag time

when

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

imbalance needs to be corrected.

When one eats salty items, it ends up in the blood stream
and is carried through out various body parts and fluids.
The cells try to make the contents of their cells equal
to what is on the other side of the fluid

it

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is surrounded by. The wall is the passage. If the
surroundings of the cells are overly high in salt, the
wall will let the salt in to balance itself. Once one
becomes hydrated, the cell wants to expel the salt, but
this will only happen if there is less of the mineral on
the outside of

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

cell than on the inside of the cell

.....thus the need to drink enough water to accomplish
that. I see now. Thanks, Julie. (Are you a teacher, by
chance? You certainly have a way with explaining things so
that it's easy to understand.)

Zakky

Zakky said:

Fred said:

As the others have said, water helps remove salt from the
body. Since salt appears to help retain water, it gives a
false weight impression in some people but is clearly not
associated with having too much body fat but still appears
on the scale which some folks do not want.

But what about needing to daily drink half of one's body
weight in ounces to get the pounds to come off? Can a
person steadily loose without drinking copious amounts
of water?

In my thinking ... YES! Just my opinion and I'm no medical
professional, but drinking increased amounts of water aids
weightloss in several ways ... one being that it helps to
rid the body of excess fluids ... another in giving you a
sense of fullness which can assist in consuming less
calories. But, it isn't a magical weightloss solution. I
see it as similar to exercise. It has definite positive
health benefits and we should try to get the required
amounts in, but weightloss can occur without massive
quantities of water, or exercise. In a nutshell, weightloss
is simply calories in vs. calories out. Eat less than the
body burns and you will lose weight. I lost the majority of
my 97 pounds with little to no exercise, and rarely
consumed 1/2 of my body weight in water. I now try to get
in 8 glasses a day, usually hit 6 though. With your medical
issues for not being able to drink excess fluids, I would
think that as long as you are drinking enough to stay
hydrated, you will be fine.

Joyce

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But if you have an imbalance, as suggested, this is
something to discuss with your doctor. You may not want or
care to deal with salt as a water retention issue. And you
certainly may not want to flush out other water soluble
electrolytes.

I know you're right. I don't dare consume too much or I'll
get into big trouble with my sodium and chloride levels.
I'm just hoping that it's possible to lose weight without
drinking large amounts of water. Zakky

Excellent answer.

Joyce said:

Zakky said:

Fred said:

As the others have said, water helps remove salt from the
body. Since salt appears to help retain water, it gives a
false weight impression in some people but is clearly not
associated with having too much body fat but still
appears on the scale which some folks do not want.

But what about needing to daily drink half of one's body
weight in ounces to get the pounds to come off? Can a
person steadily loose without drinking copious amounts
of water?

In my thinking ... YES! Just my opinion and I'm no medical
professional, but drinking increased amounts of water aids
weightloss in several ways ... one being that it helps to
rid the body of excess fluids ... another in giving you a
sense of fullness which can assist in consuming less
calories. But, it isn't a magical weightloss solution. I
see it as similar to exercise. It has definite positive
health benefits and we should try to get the required
amounts in, but weightloss can occur without massive
quantities of water, or exercise. In a nutshell, weightloss
is simply calories in vs. calories out. Eat less than the
body burns and you will lose weight. I lost the majority of
my 97 pounds with little to no exercise, and rarely
consumed 1/2 of my body weight in water. I now try to get
in 8 glasses a day, usually hit 6 though. With your medical
issues for not being able to drink excess fluids, I would
think that as long as you are drinking enough to stay
hydrated, you will be fine.

Joyce

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But if you have an imbalance, as suggested, this is
something to discuss with your doctor. You may not want
or care to deal with salt as a water retention issue. And
you certainly may not want to flush out other water
soluble electrolytes.

I know you're right. I don't dare consume too much or I'll
get into big trouble with my sodium and chloride levels.
I'm just hoping that it's possible to lose weight without
drinking large amounts of water. Zakky

Quoted message said:

But what about needing to daily drink half of one's body
weight in ounces to get the pounds to come off? Can a
person steadily loose without drinking copious amounts
of water?

You needn't drink loads of water if your losing weight, but
it helps. When you lose weight there are loads of
metabolites that must be taken out of the system. Lots of
water is a great way of doiing it. Your kidneys will work a
little harder if you don't take the extra.

However the aim of drinking lots of water is to stay
hydrated. It doesn't have to be neat water. You could mix up
hydration packs, and drink that instead. I got some before
going on holiday to India. You get them from the chemist
(boots in the UK). They are intended to re-hydrate people
after a bout of the runs (can't spell d*****a). They contain
a little sugar and some salts.

Talk to your doctor and ask him if they would be
appropriate.

Quoted message said:

I know you're right. I don't dare consume too much or I'll
get into big trouble with my sodium and chloride levels.
I'm just hoping that it's possible to lose weight without
drinking large amounts of water.

I doubt it would be a huge issue. You may experience lots
of ups and downs along the way due to changes in your
water balance.

Good luck

Ray

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Miss Violette said:

welcome to the group,

Nice to be here in the company of such a neat group. 🙂

Quoted message said:

I think given your circumstances if I were you I would
consult with my medical person to discuss what is best
in your situation.

I have, (about the electrolyte imbalance), but I always
seem to get less than satisfactory explanations and just
end up being confused on what to do. Because I'm "blessed"
with numerous allergies, asthma and HBP, I personally
think it's the multiple meds that I have to take that
gives me the imbalance. But both the "BP" doc and the
"asthma/allergy" doc are very sketchy about the side
affects of the meds they prescribe for me....seemingly
loathe to place the blame there.

Quoted message said:

Having said that the water flushes out the salt and
thereby helps you to

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

retain water, good luck, Lee

Thanks, Lee.

Zakky

ray miller said:

You needn't drink loads of water if your losing weight, but
it helps. When you lose weight there are loads of
metabolites that must be taken out of the system. Lots of
water is a great way of doiing it. Your kidneys will work a
little harder if you don't take the extra.

However the aim of drinking lots of water is to stay
hydrated. It doesn't have to be neat water. You could mix
up hydration packs, and drink that instead. I got some
before going on holiday to India. You get them from the
chemist (boots in the UK). They are intended to re-hydrate
people after a bout of the runs (can't spell d*****a). They
contain a little sugar and some salts.

Talk to your doctor and ask him if they would be
appropriate.

I doubt it would be a huge issue. You may experience lots
of ups and downs along the way due to changes in your
water balance.

Good luck

Ray

Thanks for the advise, Ray. I'll check it out. But what is
"neat" water?

As suggested by several of you, another chat with the
doctors is in order. But, it IS comforting to hear that I
should be able to continue to lose without having to flush
out my body too much.

To each of you, my heartfelt thanks for all the assistance
and suggestions. It's deeply appreciated.

Zakky