question about full-suspension bykes

Errrr make and model of Bike???? And since your at Newcaslte Uni what shop did you take your
bike to? Mick

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Well I was having my full suspension byke fixed at the shop. They just told me that the rear
suspension of the byke is unfit, and that it can cause injury.

The shop told me that they don't sell rear suspension. Is it possible to replace that part ?? The
byke seems perfectly OK to me. But people at the shop insists that the rear suspension is falling
apart. If it is dangerous, I don't want to sell it to anyone, either. Indeed I can't even give it
free, if it may cause injury.

So am I supposed to throw it away ? Can I not just buy a new rear suspension ?

Has anyone experienced a similar problem with full suspension bykes ??

Guray

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Well I was having my full suspension byke fixed at the shop. They just told me that the rear
suspension of the byke is unfit, and that it can cause injury.

The shop told me that they don't sell rear suspension.

If they don't sell it, perhaps they say that it's unfit because they don't understand it?

Try another LBS, or contact the manufacturer of your bike for correct information. I wouldn't
condemn a bike until I had two independent opinions that it was broken/dangerous.

Regards,

Pete.

mick said:

Errrr make and model of Bike???? And since your at Newcaslte Uni what shop did you take your bike
to? Mick

"Guray Acar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well I was having my full suspension byke fixed at the shop. They just told me that the rear
suspension of the byke is unfit, and that it can cause injury.

The shop told me that they don't sell rear suspension. Is it possible to replace that part ?? The
byke seems perfectly OK to me. But people at the shop insists that the rear suspension is falling
apart. If it is dangerous, I don't want to sell it to anyone, either. Indeed I can't even give it
free, if it may cause injury.

So am I supposed to throw it away ? Can I not just buy a new rear suspension ?

Has anyone experienced a similar problem with full suspension bykes ??

Guray

maybe he's in Byker

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mick said:

Errrr make and model of Bike???? And since your at Newcaslte Uni what shop did you take your bike
to? Mick

Umm, the make is Carsington, but I'm afraid I have no idea of the model.

I took it to the MC Steele or Steel in South Gosforth. It is almost next to the South Gosforth
metro station.

Cheers,

Guray

Guray Acar wrote:

Why not try Hardisty Cycles, in Byker. They used to advertise as Home of the Mountain Bike.

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Umm, the make is Carsington, but I'm afraid I have no idea of the model.

OK never heard of those :0\ which means spare rear suspension parts are most likely a no go, which
means a difficult repair if possible.

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I took it to the MC Steele or Steel in South Gosforth. It is almost next to the South Gosforth
metro station.

But since you took it to M Steels I would pretty much take they're opinion at face value as they do
know they're stuff pretty damn well, they even have they're own brand of bike "Dave yates" Not FS,
made by they're own frame builder. Of course it doesn't hurt to get a second opinion, but I would be
looking for a new bike in the meantime. Mick

MSeries said:

Guray Acar wrote:

Why not try Hardisty Cycles, in Byker. They used to advertise as Home of the Mountain Bike.

Hardistys is now a branch of the Edinburgh Bicycle Cooperative, unless they have a new branch
elsewhere.

Regards,

-david

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MSeries <[email hidden]> said:

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Hardistys is now a branch of the Edinburgh Bicycle Cooperative, unless they have a new branch
elsewhere.

It has been a long, long time since I lived in the toon.

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David Nutter said:

Hardistys is now a branch of the Edinburgh Bicycle Cooperative, unless they have a new branch
elsewhere.

EBC aren't exactly bereft of all knowledge concerning MTBs though, so still may be worth calling by.

Pete.
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mick said:

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Umm, the make is Carsington, but I'm afraid I have no idea of the model.

OK never heard of those :0\ which means spare rear suspension parts are most likely a no go, which
means a difficult repair if possible.

Quoted message said:

I took it to the MC Steele or Steel in South Gosforth. It is almost next to the South Gosforth
metro station.

But since you took it to M Steels I would pretty much take they're opinion at face value as they
do know they're stuff pretty damn well, they even have they're own brand of bike "Dave yates" Not
FS, made by they're own frame builder. Of course it doesn't hurt to get a second opinion, but I
would be looking for a new bike in the meantime. Mick

I see. But what do I do with this bike ??! I can't just throw it away. Are there people/companies
who would accept such bicycles for their spare parts ??

Also, would you suggest buying a new byke here in Newcastle or down in London ?.. I think I'll go
for a brand-new one. Do the prices vary a lot ??

Ta

Guray

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I see. But what do I do with this bike ??! I can't just throw it away.

Leave it propped in an area where some scumbag will nick it. Hopefully the rear triangle will fall
off while he's riding leaving him pedalling his [censored] along the road :-) (If it doesn't get nicked
apply some Cannondale transfers, that should do the trick).

Pete

Peter B said:

"Guray Acar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I see. But what do I do with this bike ??! I can't just throw it away.

Leave it propped in an area where some scumbag will nick it. Hopefully the rear triangle will fall
off while he's riding leaving him pedalling his [censored] along the road :-)

It'd be a big lie if I said I never thought about this solution 🙂 But, seriously, what would you do
with such a bike ?

Guray Acar said:

Well I was having my full suspension byke fixed at the shop. They just told me that the rear
suspension of the byke is unfit, and that it can cause injury.

OK, there are fundamentally two main components of a rear suspension system. One is the swing arm or
rear triangle, the bit of the frame which holds the back wheel. This could be in a dangerous
condition because of cracks in the metal, or because of excessive wear in one of the pivot holes. If
it's cracked, then it's going to be complicated and difficult to repair. If the pivot holes are worn
(which they shouldn't be, because they should be bushed, and all you should need to do is replace
the bushes) then it may be possible to effect a repair but it would still be expensive. As swing
arms are not in the least standard, the only possible place to get a new one would be from the
original manufacturer of the bike.

The other component is the suspension unit itself - a combined spring and shock absorber in a
telescopic assembly about 200mm long and 40mm in diameter. This could be in a dangerous condition if
it's cracked, bent or the bushes are unduly worn. This component is fairly standard and you should
be able to replace it without difficulty.

If it is the swing arm that's gone your best option may be to buy a complete new frame - including
swing arm - and move all your components over to it. Of course that depends how good your
components are.

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Guray Acar said:

Well I was having my full suspension byke fixed at the shop. They just told me that the rear
suspension of the byke is unfit, and that it can cause injury.

The shop told me that they don't sell rear suspension. Is it possible to replace that part ?? The
byke seems perfectly OK to me. But people at the shop insists that the rear suspension is falling
apart. If it is dangerous, I don't want to sell it to anyone, either. Indeed I can't even give it
free, if it may cause injury.

So am I supposed to throw it away ? Can I not just buy a new rear suspension ?

Has anyone experienced a similar problem with full suspension bykes ??

Guray

With a full sus bike I assume you are doing hard-core downhill racing, in which case you are better
to ask one of the DH sites.

Regards! Stephen

Steve McGinty said:

With a full sus bike I assume you are doing hard-core downhill racing, in which case you are
better to ask one of the DH sites.

Oh dear, looks like I've got it wrong all these years

Tony

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With a full sus bike I assume you are doing hard-core downhill racing,

Bit like my full sus car then, regularly hammering down rocky descents.

Pete

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It'd be a big lie if I said I never thought about this solution 🙂 But, seriously, what would you
do with such a bike ?

Most likely take it to the tip. It's amazing how many bikes I see there that look quite serviceble
but in our consumer society no one wants, and let's face it if folks can get a new "mountain bike"
<£100 why would they spend time and money on doing up oldies? The PC answer is to give it to a
charity. That's assuming you can find one that wants it and you feel will make it safe before
passing it on.

Pete

Peter B said:

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With a full sus bike I assume you are doing hard-core downhill racing,

Bit like my full sus car then, regularly hammering down rocky descents.

Pete

For normal on-road and most off-road cycling there is more than enough suspension in your tyres,
spokes and frame. Even XC MTB racers usually ride hard-tails and they often set the front pretty
stiff too.

If you're happy carting all the extra weight of a full sus bike and wasting all your energy through
the moving bits then fair enough.

Regards! Stephen

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For normal on-road and most off-road cycling there is more than enough suspension in your tyres,
spokes and frame. Even XC MTB racers usually ride hard-tails and they often set the front pretty
stiff too.

Yes, when I raced XC rear sus was in its infancy and heavy, ineffecient and expensive. Then Paul
Lazenby raced to winning positions on a Marin full sus. Since then rear suspension has moved on and
when the price:weight:reliability met my criteria I invested in one. Whether or not I'd race on one
is moot as I don't race anymore but find the comfort factor on long day rides on local hard baked
bridleways or rocky technical terrain found in Wales and The Peak District outweighs the
disadvantages of a little more weight and springyness when pedalling. I do see a lot of people
riding hard-tails on rough trails, fine, whatever floats your boat. And I still have a fully rigid
mtb as well but find that while the liveliness is initially fun an hour is enough for me.

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If you're happy carting all the extra weight of a full sus bike and wasting all your energy
through the moving bits then fair enough.

Well, not on road rides which is why I have something at the other end of the spectrum for that
purpose. Horses for courses.

Pete