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  1. Why is it that the body retains water as the congestive
    heart failure advances? What is going to happen in the
    next stage?

    I am trying to prepare myself for the inevitable. My 91 year
    old father is going through this right now. His doctor just
    wants to keep him out of the hospital.

    Thanks in advance.

    Jack

  2. Jack H. said:

    Why is it that the body retains water as the congestive
    heart failure advances?

    Various hormones (ie aldosterone) is increased in level.
    Such hormones promote sodium retention.

    Quoted message said:


    What is going to happen in the next stage?

    Pulmonary congestion occurs leading to "shortness of breath"
    even at rest and with lying down. Eventually, the congestive
    heart failure can get so bad that sleeping has to be done
    while sitting straight upright.

    Quoted message said:


    I am trying to prepare myself for the inevitable. My 91
    year old father is going through this right now. His
    doctor just wants to keep him out of the hospital.

    Thanks in advance.

    You are welcome, Jack.

    You and your father will be in my prayers to God, in
    Christ's name.

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

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    Board-Certified Cardiologist
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  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Question about congestive heart failure
    From: "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/24/2004 1:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Jack H. said:

    Why is it that the body retains water as the congestive
    heart failure advances?

    Various hormones (ie aldosterone) is increased in level.
    Such hormones promote sodium retention.

    Quoted message said:


    What is going to happen in the next stage?

    Pulmonary congestion occurs leading to "shortness of
    breath" even at rest and with lying down. Eventually, the
    congestive heart failure can get so bad that sleeping has
    to be done while sitting straight upright.

    Quoted message said:


    I am trying to prepare myself for the inevitable. My 91
    year old father is going through this right now. His
    doctor just


    wants

    Quoted message said:

    to keep him out of the hospital.

    Thanks in advance.

    You are welcome, Jack.

    You and your father will be in my prayers to God, in
    Christ's name.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My 91 year old father is going through this right now.
    His doctor just


    wants

    Quoted message said:

    to keep him out of the hospital

    Wouldn't hemodilution .. or simply bloodletting in a case
    like this .. BE .. one of the doctors solutions to allowing
    the patient to remain at home ..?

    Since one could assume the hypervolemia EXISTS in this
    patient who is obviously .. IN .. 'advanced' .. congestive
    heart failure .. ?

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  4. doe said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Question about congestive heart failure
    From: "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/24/2004 1:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time Message-
    id: <[email hidden]>

    Jack H. said:

    Why is it that the body retains water as the congestive
    heart failure advances?

    Various hormones (ie aldosterone) is increased in level.
    Such hormones promote sodium retention.

    Quoted message said:


    What is going to happen in the next stage?

    Pulmonary congestion occurs leading to "shortness of
    breath" even at rest and with lying down. Eventually, the
    congestive heart failure can get so bad that sleeping has
    to be done while sitting straight upright.

    Quoted message said:


    I am trying to prepare myself for the inevitable. My 91
    year old father is going through this right now. His
    doctor just


    wants

    Quoted message said:

    to keep him out of the hospital.

    Thanks in advance.

    You are welcome, Jack.

    You and your father will be in my prayers to God, in
    Christ's name.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My 91 year old father is going through this right now.
    His doctor just


    wants

    Quoted message said:

    to keep him out of the hospital

    Wouldn't hemodilution .. or simply bloodletting in a case
    like this .. BE .. one of the doctors solutions to
    allowing the patient to remain at home ..?

    Typically not.

    Quoted message said:

    Since one could assume the hypervolemia EXISTS in this
    patient who is obviously .. IN .. 'advanced' .. congestive
    heart failure .. ?

    Hypervolemia is not the same as polycythemia vera.

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    Andrew

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    Board-Certified Cardiologist
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  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Question about congestive heart failure
    From: [email hidden] (doe)
    Date: 5/24/2004 3:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Question about congestive heart failure From:
    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" [email hidden] Date:
    5/24/2004 1:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    Jack H. said:

    Why is it that the body retains water as the congestive
    heart failure advances?

    Various hormones (ie aldosterone) is increased in level.
    Such hormones promote sodium retention.

    Quoted message said:


    What is going to happen in the next stage?

    Pulmonary congestion occurs leading to "shortness of
    breath" even at rest


    and

    Quoted message said:

    with lying down. Eventually, the congestive heart failure
    can get so bad that sleeping has to be done while sitting
    straight upright.

    Quoted message said:


    I am trying to prepare myself for the inevitable. My 91
    year old father is going through this right now. His
    doctor just


    wants

    Quoted message said:

    to keep him out of the hospital.

    Thanks in advance.

    You are welcome, Jack.

    You and your father will be in my prayers to God, in
    Christ's name.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My 91 year old father is going through this right now.
    His doctor just


    wants

    Quoted message said:

    to keep him out of the hospital

    Wouldn't hemodilution .. or simply bloodletting in a case
    like this .. BE .. one of the doctors solutions to allowing
    the patient to remain at home ..?

    Since one could assume the hypervolemia EXISTS in this
    patient who is obviously .. IN .. 'advanced' .. congestive
    heart failure .. ?

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    Quoted message said:

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
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  6. "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jack H. said:

    Why is it that the body retains water as the congestive
    heart failure advances?

    Various hormones (ie aldosterone) is increased in level.
    Such hormones


    promote

    Quoted message said:

    sodium retention.

    Quoted message said:

    Tis a bit of a simplistic answer. but thank you none the
    less. I was looking for more information on WHY the hormone
    is being released, what causes it and all.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What is going to happen in the next stage?

    Pulmonary congestion occurs leading to "shortness of
    breath" even at rest


    and

    Quoted message said:

    with lying down. Eventually, the congestive heart failure
    can get so bad


    that

    Quoted message said:

    sleeping has to be done while sitting straight upright.

    Quoted message said:


    I am trying to prepare myself for the inevitable. My 91
    year old father is going through this right now. His
    doctor just


    wants

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to keep him out of the hospital.

    Thanks in advance.

    You are welcome, Jack.

    You and your father will be in my prayers to God, in
    Christ's name.

    Thank you. I gather that he he is nearing the end of his
    time with us and while he has not been in very good shape
    for as long as I can remember, it is never easy to see the
    final decline.

    Quoted message said:

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-Certified Cardiologist
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    Jack

  7. Jack H. said:

    "Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jack H. said:

    Why is it that the body retains water as the
    congestive heart failure advances?

    Various hormones (ie aldosterone) is increased in level.
    Such hormones


    promote

    Quoted message said:

    sodium retention.

    Quoted message said:

    Tis a bit of a simplistic answer. but thank you none the
    less. I was looking for more information on WHY the
    hormone is being released, what causes it and all.

    The RAA hormonal axis "senses" the low cardiac output of
    someone with heart failure and tries to compensate
    (maladaptively).

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What is going to happen in the next stage?

    Pulmonary congestion occurs leading to "shortness of
    breath" even at rest


    and

    Quoted message said:

    with lying down. Eventually, the congestive heart
    failure can get so bad


    that

    Quoted message said:

    sleeping has to be done while sitting straight upright.

    Quoted message said:


    I am trying to prepare myself for the inevitable. My
    91 year old father is going through this right now.
    His doctor just


    wants

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to keep him out of the hospital.

    Thanks in advance.

    You are welcome, Jack.

    You and your father will be in my prayers to God, in
    Christ's name.

    Thank you. I gather that he he is nearing the end of his
    time with us and while he has not been in very good shape
    for as long as I can remember, it is never easy to see the
    final decline.

    Only God knows when it is time (for any of us).

    Servant to the humblest person in the universe,

    Andrew

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
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