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  1. Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain more
    than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.

    if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the
    same stuff during time trial

  2. Laurent said:

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the
    same stuff during time trial

    That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat
    the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote in message...

    Quoted message said:
    Laurent said:

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have.


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    teams should use the same stuff during time trial

    That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat
    the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?

    ROTFLMAO

  4. Laurent said:

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the
    same stuff during time trial

    Scott Johnson "There is nothing, I think, more unfortunate than to have soft, chubby, fat-looking
    children who go to watch their school play basketball every Saturday and regard that as their
    week's exercise."
    - John F. Kennedy, 1962

  5. oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?

    you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that you
    would be slower than the others during the TTT.

    and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake
    blocked his wheel during all the climb!

    <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Laurent said:

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have.


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    teams should use the same stuff during time trial

    That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat
    the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?

  6. Laurent, You changed the topic to L'Alpe d'Huez. Are you whining because the first French racer
    across the line at L'Alpe d'Huez was only in 11th place, behind 2 Americans? What is your point? If
    you are just whining then get outside and ride your bike.

    John Bickmore www.BicycleCam.com www.Feed-Zone.com

    "Laurent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?

    you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that
    you would be slower than the others during the TTT.

    and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake
    blocked his wheel during all the climb!

    <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Laurent said:

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't


    have.

    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    teams should use the same stuff during time trial

    That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes,
    eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?

  7. Laurent said:

    Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain
    more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.

    if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the
    same stuff during time trial


    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.............(baby)

  8. Laurent said:


    Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT

    I've seen riders change jerseys on the bike, but I've never seen them make one :-)

  9. "Laurent" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain
    more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.

    if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the
    same stuff during time trial

    Tr0ll-0-M3t3r

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ^
    |

    This is very nice work. Two thumbs up !!! Only bad thing I can say is that its a little obvious.

    - Boyd S.

  10. Can you please list the ALL french team that is doing so well in the tour for us all please?? I
    guess there is CA (an Aussie, O'Grady)... Confidis (Miller an Englishman)... oh but then there is
    FDJ with their Aussie yellow jersey (McGee) and Aussie green jersey (Cooke).

    Great arguement you idiot! Australia can produce riders that kick butt with a population of 17
    million and where cycling is given a 'less than zero' rate of coverage!

    Oh and on the technology front... did you complain as well when Lemond won the Tour for a 'French'
    team by using his aero bars when no-one else had them?

    "Laurent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?

    you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that
    you would be slower than the others during the TTT.

    and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake
    blocked his wheel during all the climb!

    <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Laurent said:

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't


    have.

    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    teams should use the same stuff during time trial

    That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes,
    eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?

  11. "Boyd Speerschneider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Laurent" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain
    more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.

    if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the
    same stuff during time trial

    Tr0ll-0-M3t3r

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ^
    |

    This is very nice work. Two thumbs up !!! Only bad thing I can say is that its a little obvious.

    That was my first thought too...but some French really are this stupid

    Quoted message said:

    - Boyd S.

  12. this guy can't be serious

    "Laurent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?

    you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that
    you would be slower than the others during the TTT.

    and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake
    blocked his wheel during all the climb!

    <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Laurent said:

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have.


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    teams should use the same stuff during time trial

    That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes,
    eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?

  13. Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275 million
    Americans, whats the deal?

    GK

    xzzy said:

    Laurent, You changed the topic to L'Alpe d'Huez. Are you whining because the first French racer
    across the line at L'Alpe d'Huez was only in 11th place, behind 2 Americans? What is your point?
    If you are just whining then get outside and ride your bike.

    John Bickmore www.BicycleCam.com www.Feed-Zone.com

    "Laurent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?

    you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that
    you would be slower than the others during the TTT.

    and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake
    blocked his wheel during all the climb!

    <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Laurent <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't


    have.

    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    > teams should use the same stuff during time trial

    That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes,
    eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?


  14. In article said:

    Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275 million
    Americans, whats the deal?

    How come there's only one French NBA player, no French MLB players, no French NFL players? With only
    30,000 licensed bike racers in the USA we've come up with one that is far better than any of the
    50,000+ (?) French licensed bike racers. Why is that?

    -WG

  15. warren said:
    In article said:

    Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275
    million Americans, whats the deal?

    How come there's only one French NBA player, no French MLB players, no French NFL players? With
    only 30,000 licensed bike racers in the USA we've come up with one that is far better than any of
    the 50,000+ (?) French licensed bike racers. Why is that?

    -WG

    Lance is a special case, an exceptional talent who rose despite the system. French cycling is down
    at the moment, if you exclude one person, you can say US cycling is too.

    You'd have to keep on producing more Lance Armstrongs though. Otherwise there'd be no USPS and only
    3 US racers in the TdF (instead of the 6 starters this year). Out of 3 or 4,000 licenses in Oz there
    are 7 racers in the Tour.

    GK

  16. "warren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    In article said:

    Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275
    million Americans, whats the deal?

    How come there's only one French NBA player, no French MLB players, no French NFL players? With
    only 30,000 licensed bike racers in the USA we've come up with one that is far better than any of
    the 50,000+ (?) French licensed bike racers. Why is that?

    -WG

    replying to the : " Laurent is right" part of this thread

    1. the tour of france is a french race. who is in the race is stacked in favor of being french. so,
    "whats the deal?"

    2. the last time i read the uci rules ( 2000 ), a team must have a majority of it's riders be
    citizens of the home country. I have not checked the rosters of the 2003 tof, but I would bet
    that all teams have racers from other countries. who is selected for a given race is simply
    matching skills to the format of that race.

    John Bickmore www.BicycleCam.com www.Feed-Zone.com

  17. "g" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    You'd have to keep on producing more Lance Armstrongs though. Otherwise there'd be no USPS and
    only 3 US racers in the TdF (instead of the 6 starters this year). Out of 3 or 4,000 licenses in
    Oz there are 7 racers in the Tour.


    cycling.org.auAboutCA.htm Australian Cycling Federation General Information

    Membership:

    Total approx. 11,000 within 8 State Organisations affiliated to ACF.

  18. Thats why everyone hates them 😉 "Ed-D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Boyd Speerschneider" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Laurent" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them
    gain more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for
    swimming.

    if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.

    it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use
    the same stuff during time trial

    Tr0ll-0-M3t3r

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ^
    |

    This is very nice work. Two thumbs up !!! Only bad thing I can say is that its a little obvious.

    That was my first thought too...but some French really are this stupid

    Quoted message said:

    - Boyd S.

  19. In article said:
    warren said:
    In article said:

    Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275
    million Americans, whats the deal?

    How come there's only one French NBA player, no French MLB players, no French NFL players? With
    only 30,000 licensed bike racers in the USA we've come up with one that is far better than any
    of the 50,000+ (?) French licensed bike racers. Why is that?

    -WG

    Lance is a special case, an exceptional talent who rose despite the system. French cycling is down
    at the moment, if you exclude one person, you can say US cycling is too.

    Nope. Who in France is better than Tyler? Maybe Levi? Weren't those two guys both the designated
    team leaders for the Tour? Who does France have? And to say "Lance rose in spite of the system" is
    dumb. The "system" consisted of at least two very good coaches (Testa and Ferrari) along the way,
    being incorporated into two good teams (USA teams at that) with pretty good management, and good
    sponsor support.

    Quoted message said:

    You'd have to keep on producing more Lance Armstrongs though. Otherwise there'd be no USPS and
    only 3 US racers in the TdF (instead of the 6 starters this year).

    Only speculation that USPS would not be around without Lance. If some of the USA pros wanted to go
    to Europe to be second-rate domestiques like many of the guys in the Tour there could be many more
    Americans in the race. USPS left guys home who are capapable of riding on French teams.

    You also don't seem to understand my comments about French athletes in American sports. If American
    kids cared about cycling they could do very well, but they choose other sports. Comprendez-vous?

    Your arguments are weak and full of holes.

    -WG

  20. Carl Sundquist said:

    "g" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    You'd have to keep on producing more Lance Armstrongs though. Otherwise there'd be no USPS and
    only 3 US racers in the TdF (instead of the 6 starters this year). Out of 3 or 4,000 licenses in
    Oz there are 7 racers in the Tour.


    cycling.org.auAboutCA.htm Australian Cycling Federation General Information

    Membership:

    Total approx. 11,000 within 8 State Organisations affiliated to ACF.

    Well, thats how far guessing gets yer..

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