Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.
if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the same stuff during time trial
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the same stuff during time trial
That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have.
the
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teams should use the same stuff during time trial
That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the same stuff during time trial
Scott Johnson "There is nothing, I think, more unfortunate than to have soft, chubby, fat-looking children who go to watch their school play basketball every Saturday and regard that as their week's exercise." - John F. Kennedy, 1962
oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?
you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that you would be slower than the others during the TTT.
and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake blocked his wheel during all the climb!
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Laurent said:
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have.
the
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teams should use the same stuff during time trial
That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?
Laurent, You changed the topic to L'Alpe d'Huez. Are you whining because the first French racer across the line at L'Alpe d'Huez was only in 11th place, behind 2 Americans? What is your point? If you are just whining then get outside and ride your bike.
John Bickmore www.BicycleCam.com www.Feed-Zone.com
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oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?
you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that you would be slower than the others during the TTT.
and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake blocked his wheel during all the climb!
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Laurent said:
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't
have.
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the
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Quoted message said:
teams should use the same stuff during time trial
That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?
Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.
if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the same stuff during time trial
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Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.
if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the same stuff during time trial
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This is very nice work. Two thumbs up !!! Only bad thing I can say is that its a little obvious.
Can you please list the ALL french team that is doing so well in the tour for us all please?? I guess there is CA (an Aussie, O'Grady)... Confidis (Miller an Englishman)... oh but then there is FDJ with their Aussie yellow jersey (McGee) and Aussie green jersey (Cooke).
Great arguement you idiot! Australia can produce riders that kick butt with a population of 17 million and where cycling is given a 'less than zero' rate of coverage!
Oh and on the technology front... did you complain as well when Lemond won the Tour for a 'French' team by using his aero bars when no-one else had them?
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oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?
you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that you would be slower than the others during the TTT.
and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake blocked his wheel during all the climb!
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Laurent said:
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't
have.
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the
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teams should use the same stuff during time trial
That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?
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Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.
if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the same stuff during time trial
Tr0ll-0-M3t3r
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This is very nice work. Two thumbs up !!! Only bad thing I can say is that its a little obvious.
That was my first thought too...but some French really are this stupid
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oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?
you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that you would be slower than the others during the TTT.
and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake blocked his wheel during all the climb!
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Laurent said:
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have.
the
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teams should use the same stuff during time trial
That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?
Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275 million Americans, whats the deal?
GK
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Laurent, You changed the topic to L'Alpe d'Huez. Are you whining because the first French racer across the line at L'Alpe d'Huez was only in 11th place, behind 2 Americans? What is your point? If you are just whining then get outside and ride your bike.
John Bickmore www.BicycleCam.com www.Feed-Zone.com
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oh well, and why the US postal are unable to mount a team 100 % full american ?
you are 300 millions and you can't even make a team of 10 american racers because you know that you would be slower than the others during the TTT.
and when Armstrong run out of gaz in the Alpes D'huez you pretend that it was because a brake blocked his wheel during all the climb!
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Laurent <[email hidden]> wrote:
> it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't
have.
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> teams should use the same stuff during time trial
That would be fun...everyone must ride the same bikes (size adjusted), wear the same clothes, eat the same food. But then what would the French have to complain about when they still lose?
Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275 million Americans, whats the deal?
How come there's only one French NBA player, no French MLB players, no French NFL players? With only 30,000 licensed bike racers in the USA we've come up with one that is far better than any of the 50,000+ (?) French licensed bike racers. Why is that?
Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275 million Americans, whats the deal?
How come there's only one French NBA player, no French MLB players, no French NFL players? With only 30,000 licensed bike racers in the USA we've come up with one that is far better than any of the 50,000+ (?) French licensed bike racers. Why is that?
-WG
Lance is a special case, an exceptional talent who rose despite the system. French cycling is down at the moment, if you exclude one person, you can say US cycling is too.
You'd have to keep on producing more Lance Armstrongs though. Otherwise there'd be no USPS and only 3 US racers in the TdF (instead of the 6 starters this year). Out of 3 or 4,000 licenses in Oz there are 7 racers in the Tour.
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Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275 million Americans, whats the deal?
How come there's only one French NBA player, no French MLB players, no French NFL players? With only 30,000 licensed bike racers in the USA we've come up with one that is far better than any of the 50,000+ (?) French licensed bike racers. Why is that?
-WG
replying to the : " Laurent is right" part of this thread
1. the tour of france is a french race. who is in the race is stacked in favor of being french. so, "whats the deal?"
2. the last time i read the uci rules ( 2000 ), a team must have a majority of it's riders be citizens of the home country. I have not checked the rosters of the 2003 tof, but I would bet that all teams have racers from other countries. who is selected for a given race is simply matching skills to the format of that race.
John Bickmore www.BicycleCam.com www.Feed-Zone.com
You'd have to keep on producing more Lance Armstrongs though. Otherwise there'd be no USPS and only 3 US racers in the TdF (instead of the 6 starters this year). Out of 3 or 4,000 licenses in Oz there are 7 racers in the Tour.
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Nike said that the US team used a new jersey made by them during the TTT and that let them gain more than 1 second per km. their jersey is sweet like those the professional use for swimming.
if it's true that mean that Armstrong would not have had the maillot jaune after the Alpes.
it's unfair, the american use advanced technologie european don't have. the teams should use the same stuff during time trial
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This is very nice work. Two thumbs up !!! Only bad thing I can say is that its a little obvious.
That was my first thought too...but some French really are this stupid
Laurent is right. There are only 3 Americans out of 9 on your "American" team. Out of 275 million Americans, whats the deal?
How come there's only one French NBA player, no French MLB players, no French NFL players? With only 30,000 licensed bike racers in the USA we've come up with one that is far better than any of the 50,000+ (?) French licensed bike racers. Why is that?
-WG
Lance is a special case, an exceptional talent who rose despite the system. French cycling is down at the moment, if you exclude one person, you can say US cycling is too.
Nope. Who in France is better than Tyler? Maybe Levi? Weren't those two guys both the designated team leaders for the Tour? Who does France have? And to say "Lance rose in spite of the system" is dumb. The "system" consisted of at least two very good coaches (Testa and Ferrari) along the way, being incorporated into two good teams (USA teams at that) with pretty good management, and good sponsor support.
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You'd have to keep on producing more Lance Armstrongs though. Otherwise there'd be no USPS and only 3 US racers in the TdF (instead of the 6 starters this year).
Only speculation that USPS would not be around without Lance. If some of the USA pros wanted to go to Europe to be second-rate domestiques like many of the guys in the Tour there could be many more Americans in the race. USPS left guys home who are capapable of riding on French teams.
You also don't seem to understand my comments about French athletes in American sports. If American kids cared about cycling they could do very well, but they choose other sports. Comprendez-vous?
You'd have to keep on producing more Lance Armstrongs though. Otherwise there'd be no USPS and only 3 US racers in the TdF (instead of the 6 starters this year). Out of 3 or 4,000 licenses in Oz there are 7 racers in the Tour.