Quana: I Told You So!

[limerickman]

If you go to the shop and ask for about 4 eggs, how many eggs will you wind up with?

The 4 terrorist attacks that were prevented - you stated this yesterday.
Can you tell us which attacks were prevented and when?

Today I did about 3 hours on the bike, Could be more, could be less.

The 4 terrorist attacks that were prevented - you stated this yesterday.
Can you tell us which attacks were prevented and when?

 

[Carrera]

The storing of terrorist information, Jihadi videos, bomb making materials e.t.c. is a known phenomenon. A number of raids have been carried out this year alone. If you're interested, there is information on some aspects of this available. I don't see the point of going over it repeatedly.
If todays events haven't altered your view, nothing I say whatsoever is going to change your outlook.
"so having **** on your PC, and having a criminal record, entitles the police to shot an unarmed person?"
The accusation was of non adult **** being found on the P.C.
He also had a record for armed robbery which means he used a gun at the time and there could have been guns in the house.
"Criminal cases? Few raids have produced court cases concerning terrorism, I'm afraid."
Hamza - that's one. Others were kicked out.

I've heard of confidentiality?
Have you?

You stated that 4 terrorists attacks were prevented : on this website.
Not very confidential stating that, is it?

Now can you tell us about the 4 attacks that were prevented?




7/7 wasn't prevented.

So that cannot be one of the four terrorist attacks that were prevented.

Keep trying.




really?

Or maybe it's your fertile imagination working over time?




really?

bombs and chemicals you say.

Funny how none of this "evidence" has ever been produced by the authorities.
Maybe that's confidential as well, eh?




.............................that's big of you to admit it




so having **** on your PC, and having a criminal record, entitles the police to shot an unarmed person?





Scores of raids - leading to what exactly? Criminal cases? Few raids have produced court cases concerning terrorism, I'm afraid.

You're a chancer.

 

[Carrera]

You seem to have your needle stuck.

The 4 terrorist attacks that were prevented - you stated this yesterday.
Can you tell us which attacks were prevented and when?



The 4 terrorist attacks that were prevented - you stated this yesterday.
Can you tell us which attacks were prevented and when?

 

[limerickman]

You seem to have your needle stuck.

4 terrorists attacks that were prevented.

Two days ago, here, ou stated that 4 attacks were prevented.
When and how were these 4 attacks prevented?

 

[Carrera]

If I were you, I'd be far more worried about the effects of all this on the economy than asking me for proof over information that's readily available anyway. Ask MI5, not me.
Any idea how much it's going to cost to screen passengers at these airports? Bearing in mind there is so much fear of racism, all passengers will be screened. Then there's the cost of I.D. cards.
Let me tell you, this is costing billions of pounds in taxpayers money and millions of pounds lost from tourists who are getting nervous over coming here. And make no mistake, people do tell me from abroad they consider London is dangerous at this time.
Meantime, China is booming and industry developing at a staggering rate. Also note, there is no problem over terrorism in China and no terrorist attacks in China. How are you going to compete with that in Ireland?
You folks in Britain have made a terrible mistake. If so much effort had been put into developing industry and defence as it has with respect to trying to incorporate Islam into the system we wouldn't be in this mess.
That's what you should be worrying about.

4 terrorists attacks that were prevented.

Two days ago, here, ou stated that 4 attacks were prevented.
When and how were these 4 attacks prevented?

 

[Carrera]

I know the Irish have a certain reputation for being a bit dim (check out the best Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman gags) but recently I learned it's true. Maybe only an Irishman would state the term "about 4" is a concrete digit.
Maybe some other poster will share if "about six" miles on their bike is approximate to "6 miles".
Besides, 4 is an understatement.

4 terrorists attacks that were prevented.

Two days ago, here, ou stated that 4 attacks were prevented.
When and how were these 4 attacks prevented?

 

[darkboong]

I know the Irish have a certain reputation for being a bit dim (check out the best Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman gags)

It appears that the Englishman is the moron in this case. You claimed that you couldn't even remember your own post made a few hours before...

Besides, 4 is an understatement.

As of the time of writing you must have had > 1 foiled attack in mind, share it with us, or put up and shut up.

 

[Carrera]

Who said I was English?
This is a stupid argument it seems to me. I don't see where it's heading? In fact, it's a rather insignificant quibble over words, mainly the term "about 4 attacks".
Surely, if I told you I cycle "about" 24 mph on such and such a road, the sense is I'm generalising about the speed.
When I said "about 4 attacks were foiled", I was making a general statement as the truth is scores of attacks are being analysed all over the globe and in this country too. Surely I can't be expected to count and number every single case, proven or unproven. For what purpose?
If I go into detail over specific circumstances, the post winds up being deleted which is something you ought to know by now, darkboong. It's pretty clear you guys simply don't want to know.
I know where this is heading. We've been here before. You guys are trying to make out there's no terrorist threat and that likewise no terrorist attacks have ever been prevented on the grounds that no terrorist plot ever was fabricated in the first place.
If you're serious, why question me? Get in touch with MI5 and tell those guys they've got it all wrong and that they prevented zilch so far.
"Anti-terrorist police who burst into the Finsbury Park mosque in north London early yesterday found weapons including a stun gun and hundreds of suspected forged or stolen passports, identity and credit cards.
They also found a CS gas canister and a blank-firing imitation firearm at the building, which security forces believe has been used as a haven and base for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/21/nmosq21.xml

It appears that the Englishman is the moron in this case. You claimed that you couldn't even remember your own post made a few hours before...



As of the time of writing you must have had > 1 foiled attack in mind, share it with us, or put up and shut up.

 

[Carrera]

"1 foiled attack in mind......"
http://edition.cnn.com/

It appears that the Englishman is the moron in this case. You claimed that you couldn't even remember your own post made a few hours before...



As of the time of writing you must have had > 1 foiled attack in mind, share it with us, or put up and shut up.

 

[limerickman]

I know the Irish have a certain reputation for being a bit dim (check out the best Englishman, Scotsman and Irishman gags) but recently I learned it's true. Maybe only an Irishman would state the term "about 4" is a concrete digit.

The only one who's dim is here is you, clown.

Once again, you stated two days ago that 4 terrorist attacks were prevented.

I'll ask you once again - tell us when and where these attacks were prevented.

 

[limerickman]

Who said I was English?
This is a stupid argument it seems to me. I don't see where it's heading?

You introduced the claim that 4 attacks were prevented.
if the argument is "stupid" - why did you make that claim ?
You posted a claim about 4 attacks - I want to know when and where those attacks were prevented.

When I said "about 4 attacks were foiled", I was making a general statement as the truth is scores of attacks are being analysed all over the globe and in this country too. Surely I can't be expected to count and number every single case, proven or unproven. For what purpose?

So you're now retracting your claim about 4 terrosits attacks being prevented?
You were just making a general statement, is that what you're now claiming in relation to the four terrorist attacks being prevented ?

Who said I was English?
Surely I can't be expected to count and number every single case, proven or unproven. For what purpose?

Well you counted four attacks two days ago.

And now when you're asked to clarify that claim, you can't.

 

[Carrera]

Let's throw a spanner in the works. You answer my question first in detail and then I'll list you 4 attacks that have been prevented.
Incidentally, put me on record as saying I'm reserving judgement on the latest case as I prefer to wait and see what actual evidence emerges. I know better than to rush into cases that hit the media.
Now, your question:
How did Lance Armstrong avoid being charged with dope when Floyd got caught? After all, Floyd was on Lance's team, correct, and so was Tyler Hamilton?
How come Floyd and Jan got busted and not Lance?
Are Jan and Floyd drug cheats and not Lance?
Does this mean Lance is the greatest cyclist ever to have lived?

You introduced the claim that 4 attacks were prevented.
if the argument is "stupid" - why did you make that claim ?
You posted a claim about 4 attacks - I want to know when and where those attacks were prevented.




So you're now retracting your claim about 4 terrosits attacks being prevented?
You were just making a general statement, is that what you're now claiming in relation to the four terrorist attacks being prevented ?








Well you counted four attacks two days ago.

And now when you're asked to clarify that claim, you can't.

 

[limerickman]

Let's throw a spanner in the works. You answer my question first in detail and then I'll list you 4 attacks that have been prevented.

I could well throw a spanner in your works.

And this ain't a trade off - you tell me this and I'll tell .............

4 Terrorist attacks that you claim were prevented - tell us where and when these attacks were prevented.

 

[Carrera]

The first point: The guy who was on the news broken hearted this evening, swearing his son has no involvement in this latest plot. I hope his son is indeed innocent. I have a feeling some of these people may be innocent so let's hope those who are innocent are cleared.
As to your other question, it's very simple.
There are those who talk about terrorism and fall under suspicion. There are others who actually travel to overseas location and join actual,specific groups.
It's people such as David Blunkett who know the information pertaining to actual preventions you will never come across yourself. Then you have the covert agencies that deal with phone-calls and internet or whatever.
Of course, I'm aware what you're driving at - the idea there is no terrorist threat to the U.K. at all and that, by your account, not even 4 cases have been prevented so far. Then again, you also believe Arabic is as ancient as Hebrew and that Israel never existed on any ancient map.
Seems you make a living out of apparently knowing more about stuff that others might specialise in. So, I guess you know far more than the FBI, CIA and M15 put together.
Well, if it makes you happy, fine.

I could well throw a spanner in your works.

And this ain't a trade off - you tell me this and I'll tell .............

4 Terrorist attacks that you claim were prevented - tell us where and when these attacks were prevented.

 

[limerickman]

The first point: The guy who was on the news broken hearted this evening, swearing his son has no involvement in this latest plot. I hope his son is indeed innocent. I have a feeling some of these people may be innocent so let's hope those who are innocent are cleared.
As to your other question, it's very simple.
There are those who talk about terrorism and fall under suspicion. There are others who actually travel to overseas location and join actual,specific groups.
It's people such as David Blunkett who know the information pertaining to actual preventions you will never come across yourself. Then you have the covert agencies that deal with phone-calls and internet or whatever.
Of course, I'm aware what you're driving at - the idea there is no terrorist threat to the U.K. at all and that, by your account, not even 4 cases have been prevented so far. Then again, you also believe Arabic is as ancient as Hebrew and that Israel never existed on any ancient map.
Seems you make a living out of apparently knowing more about stuff that others might specialise in. So, I guess you know far more than the FBI, CIA and M15 put together.
Well, if it makes you happy, fine.

Two days ago you stated, here, that 4 terrorist attacks were prevented

When and where were these 4 terrorist attacks prevented.

 

[Carrera]

I gave you some of this information already and you ignored it?
The stuff about the Finsbury Park mosque was in the newspapers some months ago. That was one incident where they found all sorts of stuff, videos, small arms, manuals. Bakri, surely you heard of him? Hamza, why was he in court?
You appear to know not very much about this topic. Or perhaps you defend extremism?

Two days ago you stated, here, that 4 terrorist attacks were prevented

When and where were these 4 terrorist attacks prevented.

 

[limerickman]

I gave you some of this information already and you ignored it?

That's what you do.

The stuff about the Finsbury Park mosque was in the newspapers some months ago. That was one incident where they found all sorts of stuff, videos, small arms, manuals. Bakri, surely you heard of him? Hamza, why was he in court?

The stuff about Finsbury Park? What stuff? Was there a terrorist attack prevented in relation to Finsbury park? Is that what you're saying?

What charges were levelled against Abu Hamza?
Are you contending that Hamza was plotting a terrorist attack?
If so when was he charged with plotting a terrorist attack?
And when was this terrorist attack prevented from happening?

Bakri?
When was he charged with trying to commit a terrorist attack?

 

[Carrera]

Limerickman, surely you keep up with the news or watch media? Even on programs like Hard Talk, Tim Sebastian discussed this stuff. In fact, they had Hamza on Hard Talk some months back.
Myself, I watch BBC News 24, ABC News, Newsnight and regular news bulletins. Plus I do other research as a matter of course.
Clearly you're not convinced there is any terrorist threat at all. While I agree the threat can be exaggerated on occasions and mistakes made, I don't have any doubts at all that there is a security threat to many countries.
If we disagree then I guess we disagree, I'm afraid.

That's what you do.



The stuff about Finsbury Park? What stuff? Was there a terrorist attack prevented in relation to Finsbury park? Is that what you're saying?

What charges were levelled against Abu Hamza?
Are you contending that Hamza was plotting a terrorist attack?
If so when was he charged with plotting a terrorist attack?
And when was this terrorist attack prevented from happening?

Bakri?
When was he charged with trying to commit a terrorist attack?

 

[limerickman]

Myself, I watch BBC News 24, ABC News, Newsnight and regular news bulletins. Plus I do other research as a matter of course.
.

The 4 Terrorist attacks that you claimed were prevented - tell us where and when these attacks were prevented

 

[darkboong]

"Life is not precious to them. . . . They're willing to kill women and children in order to achieve a tactical advantage." - George W Bush.

That's the IDF way.