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  1. This is NOT a typo!

    You have heard of QuackWatch, now there is QuackPot Watch.
    http://quackpotwatch.org

    Learn why there is a conspiracy to keep innovation of any shape, way,
    or form, including scientific medicine (such as electromagnetic therapy
    from extremely powerful medical grade electromagnetics)out of the
    American Health Care system. Learn the reason for maintaining the
    status quo in the American Health Care system at all costs. Learn how
    "treatment" is big business, but "cure" and "prevention" does pay
    enough to keep doctors in the style that they are accustom to. Learn
    how sceintific medicine has not cured anything since polio in 1954.

    Read why HMO's are called "5 minute medicine." If you have a HMO, you
    wait a month and a half to get an appointment. You wait an hour and a
    half in the waiting room. You wait 20 minutes in the examination room.
    Then you usually don't even end up seeing a doctor, just one of their
    assistants for 5 minutes where you are given about 3 prescriptions for
    medication.

    Read how the American Health Care system is the number one cause of
    death in America. And, why the Americian Health Care system has lost
    the war against cancer. Read why our American Health Care system ranks
    behind the health care systems of third world countries.
    --
    john gohde
    Quackpot Watch
    http://quackpotwatch.org

  2. Quackpot Watch
    http://quackpotwatch.org

    "THE LAST DAYS OF THE QUACKBUSTERS"...

    Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen ([email hidden])

    I've been following the activities of the "Quackbusters" for about five
    years, ever since the name Stephen Barrett (quackwatch.com) came up, as
    a player, against a client of mine in California. I asked the question
    "why would this group be using a doctor from Pennsylvania, as their
    witness, when there are 300,000 health professionals in this State?"

    Thus began my education. Now I'm going to educate YOU...

    The "quackbuster" operation is a conspiracy. It is a propaganda
    enterprise, one part crackpot, two parts evil. It's sole purpose is to
    discredit, and suppress, in an "anything goes" attack mode, what is
    wrongfully named "Alternative Medicine." It has declared war on
    reality. The conspirators are acting in the interests of, and are
    being paid, directly and indirectly, by the "conventional"
    medical-industrial complex.

    Millions of health freedom fighters, and members of the public,
    worldwide, know what I know. Public outrage and reaction is growing.
    After 25 years of unopposed success, the "Quackbusters" are now in real
    trouble... "The end" for them, has begun. They, themselves are being
    hunted.

    The "Quackbuster Conspiracy" is in a desperate place now. They know
    they've lost the war, and are going to pay a terrible price for their
    actions. The fear is in their eyes...

    CRACKPOTS?

    Yes. When the self-named "Quackbusters" stumbled around to find a
    derisive name to call their victims, they picked the word "Quack,"
    without ever bothering to discover it's origins. Its original meaning,
    from Europe, comes from the term "quacksalver" which was used to
    describe Dentists who were dumb enough to use mercury (a poison) as
    fillings for teeth. Look at propagandist, and "Quackbuster" king-pin,
    Stephen Barrett's website (quackwatch.com), and you'll find that HE IS
    IN FAVOR of mercury (amalgam) tooth fillings.
    Barrett, his cronies, and minions, are not known to do intelligent
    research.

    EVIL?

    Yes. The "Quackbuster Conspiracy" was started shortly after the
    American Medical Association (AMA) lost the court battle to the
    Chiropractors in a case begun in Federal court in 1976. The Federal
    judge ordered the AMA's covert operation shut down - and leave the
    Chiropractors alone. The AMA files, library, etc., ended up in Stephen
    Barrett's 1,800 square foot basement in Allentown, PA. Barrett, and
    his minions, had the common sense to stay away from criticizing
    Chiropractors for quite some time. Barrett has since abandoned that
    common sense.

    Federal judges have a way of enforcing their decisions using shackles,
    Federal Marshals, the federal prison facilities, asset seizure, etc...
    Even Barrett, in all his incredible arrogance, isn't dumb enough to
    match wills with a Federal Judge. I think the Chiropractic Association
    should consider re-opening the Wilks case in front of that same Federal
    Judge - and point right at Barrett, and his cronies.

    In that early, educational case for me in California, Stephen Barrett
    and two slime-ball investigators from the California Medical Board, had
    convinced members of the Laguna Beach Police Department that a
    nutritionist using ozone therapy was "a sex criminal preying on women."
    Flak-jacketed thugs screwed a gun into Salvatore D'Onofrio's ear,
    forced him to lie on the ground, and thus began a brutal, anything
    goes, persecution.

    D'Onofrio's attorney was a hiking partner of mine, and told me the
    story on a ridgeline, seven miles up from a trailhead. I laugh now
    when I remember my naive response "This can't be happening in America."

    Sal D'Onofrio, through his attorney, hired us, at day 43 in solitary
    confinement in the Orange County Jail. He was in "solitary" because
    that's what they do with sex criminals. He was in jail because the
    judge had set bail at $500,000, an amount his supporters couldn't
    raise. Barrett's minions were ruining D'Onofrio's life in the press.

    We organized a bail hearing for day 48 of incarceration, put 62 of
    D'Onofrio's supporters in the courtroom, LA network television in the
    jury box, got the front page of the LA Times, etc., etc., etc., - and
    the judge let D'Onofrio out on his own recognizance. Seven weeks later
    the prosecutor dropped the charges.

    Who are these people that would, so casually, inflict that kind of
    nightmare on an innocent man?

    James Carter, MD's authoritative book "Racketeering In Medicine,"
    published by Hampton Roads, carefully explains the "Quackbuster
    Conspiracy."

    ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE?

    "Alternative Medicine" is defined as any protocol, action, or therapy
    that isn't "drugs, radiation, or surgery oriented."

    Wrongfully named? Yes. So-called "alternative medicine" is actually
    the health choice of planet earth. It is a combination of every good
    health idea invented by mankind, in every country and culture on this
    planet. There is nothing "alternative" about it. Labeling planet
    earth's health choice as "alternative" is, and was, a propaganda
    device.

    North Americans have overwhelmingly (by their purchases) made
    "Alternative Medicine" the "health choice of the people" - for the best
    of reasons: it works better than allopathic, it "removes the cause"
    rather than "treating the symptoms," it is cost effective, it makes
    people feel better and think clearer, and it doesn't have all those
    horrible effects, and side effects, of invasive surgery or prescription
    drugs.

    More than half of the US health dollar in 1999 was spent on
    "Alternative Medicine" and it was all out-of-pocket. Conventional
    medicine is being paid for, and is surviving, only because insurance
    and Medicare pay for it - the public won't spend an out-of-pocket
    nickel on it.

    Alternative Medicine philosophies fit the "American (I'll make my own
    decisions)" way of thinking. Allopathic Medicine philosophies fit the
    "Germanic (follow my orders)" way. "Alternative Medicine" is for
    people who think for themselves - Americans.

    The door to real "alternatives" is barely open. The future of medicine
    is right in front of us - it isn't in pharmaceuticals - it is in
    nutrition, body cleansing, prevention, oxygen therapies and energy
    medicine - all of which are constantly targeted by the sleaziest of the
    "Quackbuster" soldiers.

    THE "QUACKBUSTER" STRONGHOLD...

    The Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB), is a vital Medical
    Doctor (MD) control point. It is the trade organization of all 50
    State's Medical Boards. The FSMB is the organization that writes the
    policy manuals, and provides training for, Medical Board investigators
    and prosecutors all over the United States. The FSMB is the
    "Quackbuster" police agency.

    The "Quackbusters" use the FSMB to persecute two groups (1)
    "Alternative Practitioners" within the MD ranks (they treat them like
    traitors), and (2) non-licensed alternative health professionals (they
    charge them with "practicing medicine without a license"😉.

    The "Quackbusters" through the FSMB, have been able to change the focus
    of prosecutions against "bad doctors." They define "bad doctors" as
    those that use alternative modalities - and maximum penalties are
    exacted. We have seen in California, that real "bad doctors," those
    that kill their patients, actually get off with a slap-on-the-hand by
    using the defense "but I prescribed a lot of drugs." State medical
    Boards are not serving the needs of "we the people," they are serving
    the needs of the "Quackbusters," and their paymasters.

    Medical Board prosecutions are funded by the States - Barrett, and his
    slime artists, don't have to spend a dime... I couldn't even count the
    number of "alternative medicine" practitioners currently under
    persecution from mis-informed Medical Board investigators and
    prosecutors. The damage done to Americans from this attack is
    incalculable...

    BARRETT'S DUBIOUS CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT "HEALTH FRAUD" REALLY IS...

    The US government has indicated that "Health Fraud" is a major problem
    in the United States Health Care system. Statistics show that
    "conventional medicine" rips off the American public significantly each
    year in bogus billings, false claims, unnecessary procedures and tests,
    etc...

    Attorney General Janet Reno has a special nationwide "Health Fraud
    Prosecution Unit" to deal with this massive problem. The prosecutions
    are against mega-greedy hospitals, HMOs, ambulance companies, nursing
    facilities, etc. - all "Conventional" medical units - not
    "Alternative."

    But, if you peruse Stephen Barrett's (don't call him doctor, he's not
    licensed) website, you get the impression that "allopaths" are to be
    classified somewhere next to archangels - and "alternatives" are
    snake-oil salesmen, akin to the devil's minions. Barrett clearly
    defines, in smirky arrogance, health fraud as "alternative medicine."

    Huh?

    Doesn't Barrett read national statistics on health fraud? Of course he
    does - he just ignores them. And "Barrett's parrots" at the FSMB mimic
    their supreme commander's every word in their policy statements.
    Anyone can read FSMB policy statements, in their entirety, on the web.
    Just go to www.fsmb.org and start reading. They, like Barrett, define
    "health fraud" as "alternative medicine," and fail to even mention the
    real national "health fraud" statistics.

    WHY THE FEAR IN THEIR EYES?

    Three Reasons: Exposure, ridicule, and public rage.

    (1). EXPOSURE - Health Freedom Fighters, tired of the persecutions,
    and outnumbering the "Quackbusters" 100,000 to 1, are now watching
    Barrett and his soldiers carefully. They've decided to put a stop to
    Barrett and company. Lists are being made of who the "Quackbuster
    Conspirators" are, what their function is, where they fit into the
    conspiracy, who they work for, who their associates are, where they
    live, and what their probable motives are. Their daily activities, as
    "Quackbusters," are being monitored, and documented.

    Health leaders consider Barrett, and company, to be running a
    subversive organization working against the interests of America.

    (2). RIDICULE - Examination of Barrett's operation proves that the
    "Quackbusters" are a paper tiger. They are a construction with a 25
    year old modus operandi. Their membership is small, they have an even
    smaller core group, the industry is turning its back on their
    extremism, and their leadership "public presence" is laughable. Their
    support network could best be described as "pea-brained."

    Their "annual meeting" for the conspiracy was held in a Super 8 motel
    in Missouri - 25 stalwarts attended from, at least, six different
    plotter groups. Not very impressive.

    "Bizarre" Stephen Barrett, his cronies and minions, even labeled two
    time Nobel Prize Winner Linus Pauling as a "Quack." The American
    public, in a consumer-driven movement, is rejecting, with laughter and
    ridicule, Barrett and company's ludicrous assertions - hence the term
    "Quackpot" is now used, commonly, to describe the self-named
    "Quackbusters."

    (3). PUBLIC RAGE - The American public is just now realizing two
    things (a) that a good many of those "alternative" things being
    blocked, and suppressed, have been around for a long while - but not
    available to them because of the conspiracy, and (b) that the system to
    find and put new things in place is corrupt - and works against
    Americans. Every "cure" since polio has been suppressed, and the
    proponents of those cures, reviled by the "Quackbuster Conspirators."

    Statistics show that every one of those "cures" worked to some
    extent...

    Barrett, his cronies, minions, and henchmen, have every reason to fear
    public rage. Russian leader Nikita Khrushchev said it best. He said,
    "We would never invade America. For every American has a gun..."

    "You mean my mother didn't have to die that horribly, or even die at
    all?" is a question more, and more Americans are asking...

    Can We Do Something About It?

    Of course we can. And, we are...

    Stay tuned...

    Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate

    This "Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter" is about the
    battle between "Health and Medicine" on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an
    op/ed writer with extensive knowledge of the activities of a subversive
    organization calling itself the "quackbusters," and that organization's
    attempts to suppress, and discredit, any, and all health modalities
    that compete with the allopathic (MD) paradigm for consumer health
    dollars. The focus of the newsletter is on the ongoing activities,
    battles, politics, and the victories won by members of the "Health
    Freedom Movement" against the "quackbusters" It details "who the
    quackbusters are, what they are, where they are operating, when they
    appear, and how they operate - and how easy it is to beat them..."

    For background information on the "Battle between Health and Medicine"
    go to: http://www.savedrclark.net/by_whom2.htm. A copy of THIS
    newsletter, and older ones, are viewable at the website
    http://www.quackpotwatch.org/default.htm.

    For EVEN MORE interesting and related articles go to
    http://www.bolenreport.com
    --
    Quackpot Watch
    http://quackpotwatch.org

  3. Mr-Natural-Health said:

    This is NOT a typo!

    You have heard of QuackWatch, now there is QuackPot Watch.
    http://quackpoopwatch.org

    Thanks, but we already knew about it. While it is not a typo, it is a
    blot on the progression of intelligence of mankind.

    Timmy Bolen will defend any doctor who practices any form of alternative
    medicine in spite of the fact that the doctor could be stark raving mad,
    or an abuser of their patients, or a sexual pervert.

    However, thanks for the laugh.

  4. Mr-Natural-Health said:

    Quackpot Watch
    http://quackpoopwatch.org

    "THE LAST DAYS OF THE QUACKBUSTERS"...

    Thanks for more good humor. Bolen could not get two facts straight if
    they were on the same ruler.

    http://tinyurl.com/9fp7m

  5. Mr-Natural-Health said:

    Quackpot Watch
    http://quackpotwatch.org

    "THE LAST DAYS OF THE QUACKBUSTERS"...

    Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen ([email hidden])

    I've been following the activities of the "Quackbusters" for about five
    years, ever since the name Stephen Barrett (quackwatch.com) came up, as
    a player, against a client of mine in California. I asked the question
    "why would this group be using a doctor from Pennsylvania, as their
    witness, when there are 300,000 health professionals in this State?"

    Thus began my education. Now I'm going to educate YOU...

    COMMENT:

    In order to educate us, Bolen would have to know more than we do. He
    abysmally ignorant about even minor things (he insists we not call Dr.
    Barrett a "doctor" because he doesn't have license to practise
    medicine-- as if that were a requirement for the title), and Bolen is
    dishonest (he knows full well that Barrett surrendered his license when
    he retired, as many doctors do, and did not do it under duress, or was
    ever in legal trouble for practising medicine. But Bolen will leave you
    with the implication, which is what any dishonest argument will do).

    Actually, here's the real problem: Tim Bolen is Hulda Clark's chief
    publicist. And Hulda Clark practically *defines* quackery. She's the
    lady who has the electric zapper she claims can literally cure all
    diseases, which she says are due to toxins and parasites, both of which
    succumb to the electrical magic of her simple low voltage
    frequency-generator.

    When I asked Bolen to give an example of ACTUAL "health fraud," by a
    non-medical doctor, he could not do so. Or he will not. Naming an
    actual case of health fraud perpetrated by anybody who does not have an
    M.D. and a license to practice medicine, would put Mr. Bolen in the
    situation where he'd have to admit that something needs to be done
    about such people, and would leave him needing a mechanism with which
    to do it. And that all opens such a can of worms, that his mind cannot
    even go there.

    But to repeat, and put it bluntly, if Bolen cannot recognize Hulda
    Clark as a health fraud, he cannot recognize health fraud at all, no
    matter how bad it is. Same (apparently) goes for Gohde.

    SBH

  6. Quackpot? Isn't that *your* pathetic site, cripple boy?

    You have my pity, NOT!

    Just thought you would want to know.

    RBR

    Mr-Natural-Health said:

    This is NOT a typo!

    You have heard of QuackWatch, now there is QuackPot Watch.
    http://quackpotwatch.org

    Learn why there is a conspiracy to keep innovation of any shape, way,
    or form, including scientific medicine (such as electromagnetic therapy
    from extremely powerful medical grade electromagnetics)out of the
    American Health Care system. Learn the reason for maintaining the
    status quo in the American Health Care system at all costs. Learn how
    "treatment" is big business, but "cure" and "prevention" does pay
    enough to keep doctors in the style that they are accustom to. Learn
    how sceintific medicine has not cured anything since polio in 1954.

    Read why HMO's are called "5 minute medicine." If you have a HMO, you
    wait a month and a half to get an appointment. You wait an hour and a
    half in the waiting room. You wait 20 minutes in the examination room.
    Then you usually don't even end up seeing a doctor, just one of their
    assistants for 5 minutes where you are given about 3 prescriptions for
    medication.

    Read how the American Health Care system is the number one cause of
    death in America. And, why the Americian Health Care system has lost
    the war against cancer. Read why our American Health Care system ranks
    behind the health care systems of third world countries.

  7. Can you cite any proof of your ridiculous claims or are you just imagining
    this ?

    Are you part of the conspiracy also or just part of the brainwashed public
    sheep institute?

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Timmy Bolen will defend any doctor who practices any form of alternative
    medicine in spite of the fact that the doctor could be stark raving mad,
    or an abuser of their patients, or a sexual pervert.

    However, thanks for the laugh.

  8. [censored]. You always claim to be smarter than anybody else. Who could have
    taught you then?

    Your logic defines your credibility as a quack again.

    "Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    COMMENT:

    In order to educate us, Bolen would have to know more than we do. He
    abysmally ignorant about even minor things (he insists we not call Dr.
    Barrett a "doctor" because he doesn't have license to practise
    medicine-- as if that were a requirement for the title), and Bolen is
    dishonest (he knows full well that Barrett surrendered his license when
    he retired, as many doctors do, and did not do it under duress, or was
    ever in legal trouble for practising medicine. But Bolen will leave you
    with the implication, which is what any dishonest argument will do).

    Actually, here's the real problem: Tim Bolen is Hulda Clark's chief
    publicist. And Hulda Clark practically *defines* quackery. She's the
    lady who has the electric zapper she claims can literally cure all
    diseases, which she says are due to toxins and parasites, both of which
    succumb to the electrical magic of her simple low voltage
    frequency-generator.

    When I asked Bolen to give an example of ACTUAL "health fraud," by a
    non-medical doctor, he could not do so. Or he will not. Naming an
    actual case of health fraud perpetrated by anybody who does not have an
    M.D. and a license to practice medicine, would put Mr. Bolen in the
    situation where he'd have to admit that something needs to be done
    about such people, and would leave him needing a mechanism with which
    to do it. And that all opens such a can of worms, that his mind cannot
    even go there.

    But to repeat, and put it bluntly, if Bolen cannot recognize Hulda
    Clark as a health fraud, he cannot recognize health fraud at all, no
    matter how bad it is. Same (apparently) goes for Gohde.

    SBH

  9. Pizza Girl. said:

    Can you cite any proof of your ridiculous claims or are you just imagining
    this ?

    Yes. You must have been in a coma during the disucssions.

    http://tinyurl.com/8hzjg

    http://tinyurl.com/axqes

    Now, back into your coma.

    Quoted message said:

    Are you part of the conspiracy also or just part of the brainwashed public
    sheep institute?

    Only in your pathetic imagination.

    Quoted message said:

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Timmy Bolen will defend any doctor who practices any form of alternative
    medicine in spite of the fact that the doctor could be stark raving mad,
    or an abuser of their patients, or a sexual pervert.

    However, thanks for the laugh.

  10. I guess you can't cite anything then. Just as we all figured for a troll
    here.

    You have been too busy trying to get people to back you against Jan Drew for
    the last three years of your life. She ran you into the ground to the point
    of not progressing any further. The nights of lost sleep took their toll
    also.

    Very impressive,

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Pizza Girl. said:

    Can you cite any proof of your ridiculous claims or are you just imagining
    this ?

    Yes. You must have been in a coma during the disucssions.

    http://tinyurl.com/8hzjg

    http://tinyurl.com/axqes

    Now, back into your coma.

    Quoted message said:

    Are you part of the conspiracy also or just part of the brainwashed public
    sheep institute?

    Only in your pathetic imagination.

    Quoted message said:

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Timmy Bolen will defend any doctor who practices any form of alternative
    medicine in spite of the fact that the doctor could be stark raving mad,
    or an abuser of their patients, or a sexual pervert.

    However, thanks for the laugh.

  11. Pizza Girl. said:

    I guess you can't cite anything then. Just as we all figured for a troll
    here.

    There are two URLs nitwit. Reasd the posts, and then do a bit of
    research and see that Bolen defended both.

    I will not do your homework for you.

    Quoted message said:

    You have been too busy trying to get people to back you against Jan Drew for
    the last three years of your life. She ran you into the ground to the point
    of not progressing any further. The nights of lost sleep took their toll
    also.

    Yes, you also suffer from recto-crania.

    Quoted message said:

    Very impressive,

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Pizza Girl. said:

    Can you cite any proof of your ridiculous claims or are you just imagining
    this ?

    Yes. You must have been in a coma during the disucssions.

    http://tinyurl.com/8hzjg

    http://tinyurl.com/axqes

    Now, back into your coma.

    Quoted message said:

    Are you part of the conspiracy also or just part of the brainwashed public
    sheep institute?

    Only in your pathetic imagination.

    Quoted message said:

    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Timmy Bolen will defend any doctor who practices any form of alternative
    medicine in spite of the fact that the doctor could be stark raving mad,
    or an abuser of their patients, or a sexual pervert.

    However, thanks for the laugh.

  12. Pizza Girl. said:

    [censored]. You always claim to be smarter than anybody else. Who could have
    taught you then?

    Don't think I ever made that particular claim.

    In any case, intelligence is not the same as knowledge. Or to put it in
    reverse, stupidity is not the same as ignorance. One can be cured by
    teaching, the other cannot. As you yourself demonstrate over and over.

    SBH

  13. Sbharrisatsignix.netcom.com said:
    Mr-Natural-Health said:

    Quackpot Watch
    http://quackpotwatch.org

    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Barrett (sic) a "doctor" because he doesn't have license to practise
    medicine-- as if that were a requirement for the title), and Bolen is
    dishonest (he knows full well that Barrett surrendered his license when
    he retired, as many doctors do, and did not do it under duress, or was
    ever in legal trouble for practising medicine. But Bolen will leave you
    with the implication, which is what any dishonest argument will do).

    More lies from a Quackbuster!!!

    Barrett was forced to give up his medical license in 1993 when he lost
    his part-time employment at the State mental hospital and because he
    had so few patients, he couldn't afford the required malpractice
    insurance premiums any more.

    Just thought that the public might want to know the truth. 🙂

  14. Mark Probert said:
    Mr-Natural-Health said:

    This is NOT a typo!

    You have heard of QuackWatch, now there is QuackPot Watch.
    http://quackpoopwatch.org

    Thanks, but we already knew about it.

    Good! Get used to it Quackbuster, because it is going to be a regular
    feature on these ngs. 🙂

  15. The latest Quackpot Watch Newsletter
    http://www.quackpotwatch.org
    Subscribe today!

    "Health Freedom" Counter Attacks - Big Time...

    Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen
    http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/Wisconsinleghammer.htm
    Monday, September 26th, 2005

    The world-wide war between "health" and "medicine," "conventional" and
    "alternative," rages across continents. "Big Pharma," in an almost
    uncontrolled panic in the US, is shoveling so much cash, by the truck
    and trainload, at US television networks, trying to buy their way back
    to Americans, it's laughable.

    If you thought North American television was buried in "drug ads" last
    year, this year is far worse. Sheer panic has hit the drug world. New
    York ad agencies are in a heyday.

    North American dentistry, another hellhole of bad practices, is reeling
    from assaults, and according to ADA's Edwin Mehlman from their
    membership division, who tells me, in a personal email, that the ADA is
    having to spend "a Budget of over$100 million proposed for 2006 and
    reserves of over 47 million." Just to keep their heads above water, I
    think.

    For good reason.

    Americans are on the march, with anger in their eyes. The "duping" of
    America is about to be paid for in industry blood...

    In a nutshell, Americans are finding out, simply, that they are NOT
    getting first-rate, or even GOOD health and dental care from the system
    - although they are paying top prices - and that to get "first-rate"
    health and dental care they have to go outside of the system, and pay
    for it "out-of-pocket," AFTER they, and/or their employer, have laid
    out a lot of hard-earned dollars for supposed "Health Insurance," or
    "Dental Insurance."

    Worse, "the system" is feeding on itself, and has, in place, mechanisms
    to destroy any one of its members who try and break out and solve the
    problems of healthcare. The system is at crisis point. Frankly, it's a
    house of cards a good wind could, and will, knock down.

    But, lets not wait - lets knock it down ourselves.

    The Counter Attacks...

    (1). Last Wednesday, September 21, 2005, in Madison, Wisconsin a very
    large irate citizen's group gathered, from all over the State, in a
    hearing room at the State Capitol building. They were there to testify
    in front of the Wisconsin Legislature's "Government Operations and
    Spending Limits" committee. They came, figuratively, with a hangman's
    noose, for the express purpose of "stringing up" the Wisconsin
    Department of Regulation & Licensing (DRL).

    For seven hours they testified - and the Legislators listened,
    sometimes with mouths agape, to the horror stories poured out in
    official complaint, about the unrestricted activities of certain
    members of the staff of the DRL, and that staff's relationship with the
    "quackbuster" operation - an organization sworn to stopping advances
    in health care in favor of the deadly status quo.

    Testifying, at the hearing, to a standing-room only crowd, were MDs,
    Chiropractors, Nurses, Dentists, DOs, Attorneys, and ANGRY consumers.

    First to testify were two members of DRL Management. They were there
    to answer questions about "How they manage their employees." The
    response, immediately, from a Wisconsin attorney who spoke next was
    "That's nice to hear, but the reality of the operation is somewhat
    different." Six hours later a STUNNED legislative committee had heard
    the reality of "health prosecutions" in Wisconsin - and the hunt
    begins...

    I know exactly what's going to happen next - and I'm very pleased.
    But, like those Saturday movie matinees I used to go to as a kid -
    you'll have to wait to read it later...

    (2). The American Dental Association (ADA) is about to get "publicly
    confronted" at their 2005 Philadelphia convention. In shock, I think,
    and reeling from the effects of lawsuits ("ADA Gets 'Kiss of Death'"😉,
    the ADA may be totally unprepared for what will happen next. As we
    know, mainstream US dentistry is in bad shape.

    And, what happens next? Well, the "Pennsylvania Coalition for Mercury
    Free Dentistry" is insulted, and incensed that the ADA would even THINK
    if holding a meeting in their state - and are gearing up to get in
    their face... They've put together a five pronged attack. I'll tell
    you about one of those prongs:

    Dentists - "Get your Head Out of the Sand...The ADA won't protect you
    when the lawsuits start...... describing how the ADA abandoned one of
    its members in California, when it bailed out of a case claiming: "The
    ADA owes no legal duty of care to protect the public from allegedly
    dangerous products used by dentists. The ADA did not manufacture,
    design, supply or install the mercury-containing amalgams. The ADA
    does not control those who do. The ADA's only alleged involvement was
    to provide information regarding its use."

    This one will be fun to watch. I don't think most dentists have any
    idea that the ADA has abandoned them. For more information click here.

    (3). On October 10th, 2005 this year delicensed MD Stephen Barrett,
    author of the infamous "quackwatch.com" website, will be officially
    confronted in a Courtroom in his home town of Allentown, Pennsylvania.
    Barrett was forced to give up his medical license in 1993 when he lost
    his part-time employment at the State mental hospital and because he
    had so few patients, he couldn't afford the required malpractice
    insurance premiums any more.

    Barrett has angered MOST of the health professions with his blatant
    accusations of quackery against anyone who does not believe in "drugs,
    drugs, and more drugs" as the answer to health problems. This time
    Barrett is attacking one of the top people in the Chiropractic
    profession - Tedd Koren DC of Koren Publications - and Koren, and the
    Chiropractic profession, is not taking it lightly. Barrett is going to
    get slapped around the Courtroom, for Koren has brought in Washington
    attorney Jim Turner, and experienced Barrett-slapper Carlos F. Negrete
    of California.

    The Foundation for Health Choice is heading up this assault on Barrett.
    You can read about it by clicking here.

    There is a difficulty in the case that we'll find out if we get around
    tomorrow. Somehow, or other, Barrett's attorney was able to get the
    local Judge to rule that Koren will not be allowed to put on a
    defense.... and of course, Koren wants a full-on assault against
    Barrett's activities. Koren has about sixty witnesses willing to
    testify against Barrett - including me, Tim Bolen. There is a hearing
    tomorrow, Tuesday, September 27th, 2005 where the Judge will be asked
    to reconsider his decision. If he doesn't the trial will go on anyway,
    because, frankly, Barrett, himself, is the BEST witness Koren could
    have against Barrett... Barrett, in testimony under pressure is
    laughable. He's such an arrogant jerk he harms himself. In an Oregon
    Federal Court case a few years ago, Negrete, using "cross-examination,"
    almost literally used Barrett to polish the Courtroom floor. Barrett
    lost that case, dramatically.

    I'm looking forward to this confrontation. More on this later.

    (4). On October 28th to 30th, 2005, this year, a conference will be
    held in Minneapolis, MN by the very successful "National Health Freedom
    Coalition." The point of the meeting is to get North American Health
    Freedom activists together, under one roof, to strategize. The
    scheduled speakers represent a "Who's Who of North American Health
    Freedom." I'll be joining Carolyn Dean MD, former congressman Dan
    Haley, Diane Miller JD, Alliance for Natural Health Barrister David
    Hinde, and Robert Verkerk PhD, the National Health Federation's Scott
    Tips JD, Citizen's for Health James Gormley, Friends of Freedom's
    Trueman Tuck, the Law Loft's Suzanne Harris JD, and long-time health
    activist Clinton Ray Miller on the speaker's platform.

    Primarily the meeting is to trade strategic, and tactical information.
    As you probably already know, there are different approaches to dealing
    with health freedom issues. There are those, like me and Canada's
    Trueman Tuck, who believe in a no-prisoners, all-out assault, and those
    that use a quieter, convincing, legislative approach - and those in
    between. Come to this meeting and you'll get an overview like you've
    never seen before - because EVERYTHING we do, EVERY APPROACH is
    working.

    (5). On November 4th to 6th, 2005, another Health Freedom Expo will be
    held in Dallas, TX. With four events scheduled per year, around the
    US, this organization is waking up America. I'll be there, as well as
    leading alternative Cancer Researcher Hulda Regehr Clark PhD - plus
    many others.

    (6). And, much, much more...

    We are heading for a health care "Nuremberg..." And, it's about
    time...

    Stay tuned...

    Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate

    This "Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter" is about the
    battle between "Health and Medicine" on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an
    op/ed writer with extensive knowledge of the activities of a subversive
    organization calling itself the "quackbusters," and that organization's
    attempts to suppress, and discredit, any, and all health modalities
    that compete with the allopathic (MD) paradigm for consumer health
    dollars. The focus of the newsletter is on the ongoing activities,
    battles, politics, and the victories won by members of the "Health
    Freedom Movement" against the "quackbusters" It details "who the
    quackbusters are, what they are, where they are operating, when they
    appear, and how they operate - and how easy it is to beat them..."

    For background information on the "Battle between Health and Medicine"
    go to: http://www.savedrclark.net/by_whom2.htm. A copy of THIS
    newsletter, and older ones, are viewable at the website
    http://www.quackpotwatch.org

    For EVEN MORE interesting and related articles go to
    http://www.bolenreport.net
    --
    http://www.quackpotwatch.org

  16. Mr-Natural-Health said:
    Sbharrisatsignix.netcom.com said:
    Mr-Natural-Health said:

    Quackpot Watch
    http://quackpotwatch.org

    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Barrett (sic) a "doctor" because he doesn't have license to practise
    medicine-- as if that were a requirement for the title), and Bolen is
    dishonest (he knows full well that Barrett surrendered his license when
    he retired, as many doctors do, and did not do it under duress, or was
    ever in legal trouble for practising medicine. But Bolen will leave you
    with the implication, which is what any dishonest argument will do).

    More lies from a Quackbuster!!!

    Barrett was forced to give up his medical license in 1993 when he lost
    his part-time employment at the State mental hospital and because he
    had so few patients, he couldn't afford the required malpractice
    insurance premiums any more.

    Complete [censored], as anyone can read on quackwatch. Now get your hand
    out of Bolen's ass.

    Quoted message said:

    Just thought that the public might want to know the truth. 🙂

    You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the face. Well, maybe the
    truth hasn't hit you yet cause it has a hard time telling you apart from
    your racist buddies, since you all look alike wearing those KKK hoods.
    Have fun burning crosses this weekend. May you spill gasonline all over
    yourself and get to too close to the fire.

  17. JohnDoe said:
    Mr-Natural-Health said:
    Sbharrisatsignix.netcom.com said:

    Mr-Natural-Health wrote:

    >Quackpot Watch
    >http://quackpotwatch.org

    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Barrett (sic) a "doctor" because he doesn't have license to practise
    medicine-- as if that were a requirement for the title), and Bolen is
    dishonest (he knows full well that Barrett surrendered his license when
    he retired, as many doctors do, and did not do it under duress, or was
    ever in legal trouble for practising medicine. But Bolen will leave you
    with the implication, which is what any dishonest argument will do).

    More lies from a Quackbuster!!!

    Barrett was forced to give up his medical license in 1993 when he lost
    his part-time employment at the State mental hospital and because he
    had so few patients, he couldn't afford the required malpractice
    insurance premiums any more.

    Complete [censored], as anyone can read on quackwatch. Now get your hand
    out of Bolen's ass.

    What the Quackbusters don't like about Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate,
    is that he is winning and they the Quackpots are losing.

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

    Posting the opposing viewpoint against bigoted Quackbusters will be a
    weekly feature on these ngs. I have at least 5 different web sites to
    choose from.

    Of course, there is more than enough to choose from at:
    http://quackpotwatch.org

  18. Mr-Natural-Health said:
    JohnDoe said:
    Mr-Natural-Health said:

    Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:

    >Mr-Natural-Health wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Quackpot Watch
    >>http://quackpotwatch.org

    >Dr. Barrett (sic) a "doctor" because he doesn't have license to practise
    >medicine-- as if that were a requirement for the title), and Bolen is
    >dishonest (he knows full well that Barrett surrendered his license when
    >he retired, as many doctors do, and did not do it under duress, or was
    >ever in legal trouble for practising medicine. But Bolen will leave you
    >with the implication, which is what any dishonest argument will do).

    More lies from a Quackbuster!!!

    Barrett was forced to give up his medical license in 1993 when he lost
    his part-time employment at the State mental hospital and because he
    had so few patients, he couldn't afford the required malpractice
    insurance premiums any more.

    Complete [censored], as anyone can read on quackwatch. Now get your hand
    out of Bolen's ass.

    What the Quackbusters don't like about Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate,
    is that he is winning and they the Quackpots are losing.

    Since you're such a good friend of Bolen, can you tell me what happened
    to him? He showed up a few weeks ago in MHA, fired off some thinly
    veiled threats, got some unpleasant (for Bolen that is) questions from
    Peter Bowditch (amongst others) to which he obviously didn't have the
    guts to reply to and then vanished.

    Quoted message said:

    Hah, Ha!

    Posting the opposing viewpoint against bigoted Quackbusters will be a
    weekly feature on these ngs.

    I'm sure you'll do anything to get attention and vent your frustration
    of being a nobody. When you're old and people ask you what you did with
    your life, it's gonna be a very sad story indeed.

    Quoted message said:

    I have at least 5 different web sites to choose from.

    Yeah, I've seen them:
    www.iamanignorantbigot.com
    www.iamanobnoxiousracistpig.org
    www.ihumptimbolen.com
    www.iamanembarrasmenttohumanity.com
    www.icraveattentiongimmegimmegimmenow.org

    Quoted message said:

    Of course, there is more than enough to choose from at:
    http://quackpotwatch.org

    Yup, great page if you want lessons on how to distort facts.

  19. Sbharrisatsignix.netcom.com said:
    Pizza Girl. said:

    [censored]. You always claim to be smarter than anybody else. Who could have
    taught you then?

    Don't think I ever made that particular claim.

    In any case, intelligence is not the same as knowledge. Or to put it in
    reverse, stupidity is not the same as ignorance. One can be cured by
    teaching, the other cannot. As you yourself demonstrate over and over.

    You are an intellectual sniper....

  20. Mr-Natural-Health said:
    Sbharrisatsignix.netcom.com said:
    Mr-Natural-Health said:

    Quackpot Watch
    http://quackpotwatch.org

    Quoted message said:

    Dr. Barrett (sic) a "doctor" because he doesn't have license to practise
    medicine-- as if that were a requirement for the title), and Bolen is
    dishonest (he knows full well that Barrett surrendered his license when
    he retired, as many doctors do, and did not do it under duress, or was
    ever in legal trouble for practising medicine. But Bolen will leave you
    with the implication, which is what any dishonest argument will do).

    More lies from a Quackbuster!!!

    Barrett was forced to give up his medical license in 1993 when he lost
    his part-time employment at the State mental hospital and because he
    had so few patients, he couldn't afford the required malpractice
    insurance premiums any more.

    OK, bigot breath, try real hard to find some proof of that.

    We can wait. Hell will not freeze over until December.

    Quoted message said:

    Just thought that the public might want to know the truth. 🙂

    If the public wanted to know the truth, they would not read your posts.

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