Q: BG level 1 hr after eating sugar

nanner wrote:
:: Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check my
:: blood glucose.
::
:: I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a
:: cupcake, had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i
:: know, I went to town LOL)
::
:: it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the
:: numbers mean though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.
::
:: any help?

Seems ok.....ice cream has high enough fat content to help blunt the spike,
IME.

::
:: meanwhile..back to our regularly schedualed healthy eating program!!

So, why are you going off program?

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nanner said:

Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check my blood
glucose.

I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a cupcake,
had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i know, I went to
town LOL)

it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the numbers mean
though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.

any help?

meanwhile..back to our regularly schedualed healthy eating program!!

Those ranges are set way too high. Anything over 140 is doing some
kindof organ damage, BUT. I have to say, I don't know anyone with DM
who would be that low at one hour following a sugary meal. Keep testing
for a while, though; fat can delay the peak of your bg rise after a meal.

Susan

nanner wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: nanner wrote:
::::: Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check
::::: my blood glucose.
:::::
::::: I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a
::::: cupcake, had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream -
::::: i know, I went to town LOL)
:::::
::::: it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the
::::: numbers mean though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.
:::::
::::: any help?
:::
::: Seems ok.....ice cream has high enough fat content to help blunt the
::: spike, IME.
:::
:::::
::::: meanwhile..back to our regularly schedualed healthy eating
::::: program!!
:::
::: So, why are you going off program?
:::
::
:: i'm not, i just had a weak moment with all the left over goodies in
:: the house from DD's bday party this weekend. so at least I was able
:: to use my weak moment to test my blood.

So you mean you're now back on program, right? You had a weak moment and
went off program for a bit, but now you're back. That's fine, though. If
you can manage to lengthen the time between going off, then you can stay on
program longer, and thus not delay progress.

It is good to test frequently when you slip off, though. However, if you've
been off for a while, your real response to carbs might be altered compared
to what it would be if you were eating lots of them.

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nanner said:

I went off program for 20 minutes tops LOL not the weekend or anything. i
was cleaning the kitchen and was overwhelmed with the desire to eat it all!
and since the part of my brainthat knows better was hungry as I hadn't had
breakfast yet it went right along with the evil plan. i was happy with
myself that I only tasted this and that and had a few spoons of ice cream.
in teh past I would have eaten it ALL until i was sick. I just didn't find
any satisfaction from it really and, happy to say, was not guilt-ridden
after. Decided I could at least use it as a learning experience.

That's why I always send the desserts and other sweets home with guests,
or have my husband take it to work in the a.m.

I have a big supply of dark chocolate on hand, but I can control that
temptation and have small bits.

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I tested blood again after 2 hrs. it was 125.

That's good, though not as low as I'd expect for someone with no glucose
issues. I keep under that at one hour on low carb, much under.

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I'm having raw veggies and ranch dressing for lunch...

That's not going to satisfy for long; how about some protein with it?

Susan

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I went off program for 20 minutes tops LOL not the weekend or anything. i
was cleaning the kitchen and was overwhelmed with the desire to eat it
all! and since the part of my brainthat knows better was hungry as I
hadn't had breakfast yet it went right along with the evil plan. i was
happy with myself that I only tasted this and that and had a few spoons of
ice cream. in teh past I would have eaten it ALL until i was sick. I just
didn't find any satisfaction from it really and, happy to say, was not
guilt-ridden after. Decided I could at least use it as a learning
experience.

You're deluding yourself. You didn't go "off program for 20 minutes tops,"
you went off it for the entire day and maybe longer. Why? Because it takes
time for your body to "get into position" to respond to a low carb way of
eating. After your binge, you have to start all over again. This "LOL" stuff
is probably why you got overweight in the first place---you are
rationalizing your food choices and making excuses and making yourself feel
better by saying "I could at least use it as a learning experience." No you
can't. You've done that before--lots of times, haven't you?

Pat in TX

Sorry to piggy back on Roger's reply, but looks like I don't have the
original post.

I'm wondering how much lower are you, usually, and how did you feel
after you ate this stuff?

Roger Zoul said:

nanner wrote:
:: Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check my
:: blood glucose.
::
:: I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a
:: cupcake, had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i
:: know, I went to town LOL)
::
:: it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the
:: numbers mean though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.
::
:: any help?

Seems ok.....ice cream has high enough fat content to help blunt the spike,
IME.

::
:: meanwhile..back to our regularly schedualed healthy eating program!!

So, why are you going off program?

--
BlueBrooke
254/234/135

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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nanner wrote:
:: Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check my
:: blood glucose.
::
:: I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a
:: cupcake, had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i
:: know, I went to town LOL)
::
:: it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the
:: numbers mean though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.
::
:: any help?

Seems ok.....ice cream has high enough fat content to help blunt the
spike, IME.

::
:: meanwhile..back to our regularly schedualed healthy eating program!!

So, why are you going off program?

i'm not, i just had a weak moment with all the left over goodies in the
house from DD's bday party this weekend. so at least I was able to use my
weak moment to test my blood.

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nanner said:

"Susan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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even though it was after I ate sugar filled junk?

People with intact pancreatic function stay between 85-105 even then.
As a diabetic on low carb, I'm below 100 at two hours, but higher if I
eat the kind of [censored] you ate.

Susan

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You didn't go "off program for 20 minutes tops," you went off it for the
entire day and maybe longer.

And it's that attitude that got me in trouble in the past too, "Well,
today is shot may as well party it up." I've learned that lesson, no
thanks.

I'm saying you're using it as just the opposite: You're saying "Oh well, I
only went off the program 20 minutes! No big deal" instead of looking at the
sugary sweets and saying "Nope, can't eat those or I've screwed up my plan
to get healthy and lose weight."

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Why? Because it takes time for your body to "get into position" to respond
to a low carb way of eating. After your binge, you have to start all over
again.

Ok, so I start over. Would you recomend I just fall into a pit of sugar
and carb binging or hop back on and eat healthy?

I would recommend you stop making the "oh well, it's just 20 minutes out of
a lifetime" type excuses. You are hopping on and off so often that it
effectively has no meaning.

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This "LOL" stuff is probably why you got overweight in the first place---

wrong - the rigid "LC or Die" lifestlye i tried to live for the past 10
years is what has gotten me into trouble, it's the LOL moments in our
lives that get us through these little blips. I am not perfect and if I
try to be I am going to be doomed. if i can LOL and then pick myself up
and dust myself off I think i can live with a little less stress.

I really doubt you have been living a "rigid lifestyle" or you wouldn't be
overweight and possibly heading towards Type II diabetes.

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you are rationalizing your food choices and making excuses and making

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yourself feel better by saying "I could at least use it as a learning
experience." No you can't. You've done that before--lots of times,
haven't you?

No, genius. the people here that know what I am talking about know this is
in reference to testing my blood glucose which I have never done before,
thus being a perfect opportunity to test it after eating sugar. I have
been back on LC for 4 weeks and did not have the opportunity to see how my
BG levels react to sugar. Now I did.

You are still rationalizing in this post! Don't you see that? You are
calling pigging out on sugary sweets "these little blips" and saying "I am
not perfect and if I try to be I am going to be doomed" etc, etc. In short,
you are trying to have it both ways: you are trying to eat what you want and
claim it is just "a little blip" and then trying to live a low carb
lifestyle without any serious will power. You don't need "a perfect
opportunity to test it after eating sugar." You can test it as part of your
normal low carb way of living. This is what rationalization is. How long
will it be before you publish another "oops a little blip" or "I'm not
perfect again" post? You have one foot in the low carb diet and the other
foot in the "I will do what I want and make excuses for it" camp. That is
why you are having trouble. You're not committed.

Oh, the next time, you should write "I'm only human! All humans make
mistakes!" This comes right after the "I'm not perfect" line. Harsh? You
bet. But, this is the way you come across in your posts...making excuses, no
willpower, no commitment.

Pat in TX

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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nanner wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: nanner wrote:
::::: Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check
::::: my blood glucose.
:::::
::::: I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a
::::: cupcake, had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream -
::::: i know, I went to town LOL)
:::::
::::: it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the
::::: numbers mean though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.
:::::
::::: any help?
:::
::: Seems ok.....ice cream has high enough fat content to help blunt the
::: spike, IME.
:::
:::::
::::: meanwhile..back to our regularly schedualed healthy eating
::::: program!!
:::
::: So, why are you going off program?
:::
::
:: i'm not, i just had a weak moment with all the left over goodies in
:: the house from DD's bday party this weekend. so at least I was able
:: to use my weak moment to test my blood.

So you mean you're now back on program, right? You had a weak moment and
went off program for a bit, but now you're back. That's fine, though. If
you can manage to lengthen the time between going off, then you can stay
on program longer, and thus not delay progress.

It is good to test frequently when you slip off, though. However, if
you've been off for a while, your real response to carbs might be altered
compared to what it would be if you were eating lots of them.

I went off program for 20 minutes tops LOL not the weekend or anything. i
was cleaning the kitchen and was overwhelmed with the desire to eat it all!
and since the part of my brainthat knows better was hungry as I hadn't had
breakfast yet it went right along with the evil plan. i was happy with
myself that I only tasted this and that and had a few spoons of ice cream.
in teh past I would have eaten it ALL until i was sick. I just didn't find
any satisfaction from it really and, happy to say, was not guilt-ridden
after. Decided I could at least use it as a learning experience.

I tested blood again after 2 hrs. it was 125.

I'm having raw veggies and ranch dressing for lunch...

"Susan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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nanner said:

I went off program for 20 minutes tops LOL not the weekend or anything. i
was cleaning the kitchen and was overwhelmed with the desire to eat it
all! and since the part of my brainthat knows better was hungry as I
hadn't had breakfast yet it went right along with the evil plan. i was
happy with myself that I only tasted this and that and had a few spoons
of ice cream. in teh past I would have eaten it ALL until i was sick. I
just didn't find any satisfaction from it really and, happy to say, was
not guilt-ridden after. Decided I could at least use it as a learning
experience.

That's why I always send the desserts and other sweets home with guests,
or have my husband take it to work in the a.m.

I have a big supply of dark chocolate on hand, but I can control that
temptation and have small bits.

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I tested blood again after 2 hrs. it was 125.

That's good, though not as low as I'd expect for someone with no glucose
issues. I keep under that at one hour on low carb, much under.

even though it was after I ate sugar filled junk?

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I'm having raw veggies and ranch dressing for lunch...

That's not going to satisfy for long; how about some protein with it?

i usually would but i feel bloated and full from my sugar binge this
morning. i have chicken I will pick on from teh fridge while I clean all
day.

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Susan

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I went off program for 20 minutes tops LOL not the weekend or anything. i
was cleaning the kitchen and was overwhelmed with the desire to eat it
all! and since the part of my brainthat knows better was hungry as I
hadn't had breakfast yet it went right along with the evil plan. i was
happy with myself that I only tasted this and that and had a few spoons
of ice cream. in teh past I would have eaten it ALL until i was sick. I
just didn't find any satisfaction from it really and, happy to say, was
not guilt-ridden after. Decided I could at least use it as a learning
experience.

You're deluding yourself.

really, mm hmm.

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You didn't go "off program for 20 minutes tops," you went off it for the
entire day and maybe longer.

And it's that attitude that got me in trouble in the past too, "Well, today
is shot may as well party it up." I've learned that lesson, no thanks.

Quoted message said:

Why? Because it takes time for your body to "get into position" to respond
to a low carb way of eating. After your binge, you have to start all over
again.

Ok, so I start over. Would you recomend I just fall into a pit of sugar and
carb binging or hop back on and eat healthy?

Quoted message said:

This "LOL" stuff is probably why you got overweight in the first place---

wrong - the rigid "LC or Die" lifestlye i tried to live for the past 10
years is what has gotten me into trouble, it's the LOL moments in our lives
that get us through these little blips. I am not perfect and if I try to be
I am going to be doomed. if i can LOL and then pick myself up and dust
myself off I think i can live with a little less stress.

Quoted message said:

you are rationalizing your food choices and making excuses and making
yourself feel better by saying "I could at least use it as a learning
experience." No you can't. You've done that before--lots of times, haven't
you?

No, genius. the people here that know what I am talking about know this is
in reference to testing my blood glucose which I have never done before,
thus being a perfect opportunity to test it after eating sugar. I have been
back on LC for 4 weeks and did not have the opportunity to see how my BG
levels react to sugar. Now I did.

Quoted message said:

Pat in TX

"BlueBrooke" <.@.> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Sorry to piggy back on Roger's reply, but looks like I don't have the
original post.

I'm wondering how much lower are you, usually, and how did you feel
after you ate this stuff?

i only tested after fasting a few times (around 97) and after eating eggs
and similar (around 100 at 1 hr and 103 after 2 hrs)

and i felt like junk but it kicked in the cravey binge monster 🙁

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:18:06 -0400, "nanner" <[email hidden]>

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"BlueBrooke" <.@.> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Sorry to piggy back on Roger's reply, but looks like I don't have the
original post.

I'm wondering how much lower are you, usually, and how did you feel
after you ate this stuff?

i only tested after fasting a few times (around 97) and after eating eggs
and similar (around 100 at 1 hr and 103 after 2 hrs)

Randomly stabbing yourself won't tell you anything. I think someone
already posted info on how to test and what you're looking for. If
they didn't, you can find good info here:

http://alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm

This tells you when to test, and why.

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and i felt like junk but it kicked in the cravey binge monster 🙁

I don't know if this means you "felt like junk" -- that you felt like
eating junk -- or if you "felt like junk" -- you felt lousy after you
ate this stuff. If you've "kicked in the cravey binge monster" you
probably don't feel too well.

The tide will turn when you realize (1) there isn't any nutritional
value in junk food and (2) ten minutes of pleasure eating that stuff
isn't worth the hours (or days) of feeling terrible afterwards.

Good luck to you.

--
BlueBrooke
254/234/135

nanner said:

I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a
cupcake, had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i
know, I went to town LOL)

Quoted message said:

it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the
numbers mean though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.

Quoted message said:

I tested blood again after 2 hrs. it was 125.

I'm new at this too and still learning, but my understanding is that a
person with healthy insulin response *may* go as high as 120 after the
first hour, but will always be back down under 100 after two hours.
Anything above 140 will begin to cause organ damage, including damage
to the beta cells in your pancreas, further harming your insulin
function, so it's a vicious circle. (Corrections on all this from the
veterans are most welcome.) Ignore the numbers for diabetics in your
booklet; for some reason the ADA refuses to acknowledge any of the
progress that's being made in this area over the last few decades, and
insists on sticking with danger numbers that are way too high.

So, what those numbers are telling you is that serious quantities of
carbs are poison for you. Whether you're officially diabetic or
insulin resistant or whatever is beside the point now; you know that
you can't eat that stuff if you want to stay healthy.

You probably also discovered how hard it is to say "I'll just have a
taste" and then stick to it. When your blood sugar isn't well
controlled, that's like a recovering alcoholic saying, "Oh, I'll just
have one shot and then stop." It's not gonna happen, is it? Once you
get started, you'll rationalize like crazy until you convince yourself
that you *should* eat three pieces of that birthday cake. (I did the
same thing this weekend, but I don't have time to chronicle it now, so
later....) It just doesn't pay to even flirt with it.

Today's a new day though; time to learn from it, start over, and move
forward.

--
Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

"Aaron Baugher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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nanner said:

I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a
cupcake, had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i
know, I went to town LOL)

Quoted message said:

it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the
numbers mean though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.

Quoted message said:

I tested blood again after 2 hrs. it was 125.

I'm new at this too and still learning, but my understanding is that a
person with healthy insulin response *may* go as high as 120 after the
first hour, but will always be back down under 100 after two hours.
Anything above 140 will begin to cause organ damage, including damage
to the beta cells in your pancreas, further harming your insulin
function, so it's a vicious circle. (Corrections on all this from the
veterans are most welcome.) Ignore the numbers for diabetics in your
booklet; for some reason the ADA refuses to acknowledge any of the
progress that's being made in this area over the last few decades, and
insists on sticking with danger numbers that are way too high.

So, what those numbers are telling you is that serious quantities of
carbs are poison for you. Whether you're officially diabetic or
insulin resistant or whatever is beside the point now; you know that
you can't eat that stuff if you want to stay healthy.

You probably also discovered how hard it is to say "I'll just have a
taste" and then stick to it. When your blood sugar isn't well
controlled, that's like a recovering alcoholic saying, "Oh, I'll just
have one shot and then stop." It's not gonna happen, is it? Once you
get started, you'll rationalize like crazy until you convince yourself
that you *should* eat three pieces of that birthday cake. (I did the
same thing this weekend, but I don't have time to chronicle it now, so
later....) It just doesn't pay to even flirt with it.

Today's a new day though; time to learn from it, start over, and move
forward.

--
Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

thanks Aaron, you seem to know where i am coming from.

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Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check my
blood glucose.

I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a
cupcake, had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i
know, I went to town LOL)

it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the numbers
mean though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.

Hey, this website (doesn't sell anything) gives a picture, showing the
studies they're backed by, of the effects of BG levels on your organs,
all sorts.
It should help you decide for yourself what BG levels you're happy
with.

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:58:06 -0400, "nanner" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check my blood
glucose.

I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a cupcake,
had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i know, I went to
town LOL)

it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the numbers mean
though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.

any help?

meanwhile..back to our regularly schedualed healthy eating program!!

That sound about normal to me.

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ValveJob said:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:58:06 -0400, "nanner" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Hi - I had some sugary stuff today so I used the chance to check my blood
glucose.

I tested at 1 hr after starting to eat the sugary stuff (tasted a cupcake,
had a small piece of bday cake and a bowl of ice cream - i know, I went to
town LOL)

it was 146, I will test again at 2 hrs. I don't know what the numbers mean
though. The booklet gives ranges for diabetics.

any help?

meanwhile..back to our regularly schedualed healthy eating program!!

That sound about normal to me.

Normal for the average American, who typicall develops diabetes and
cardiovascular disease.

To avoid those, you want to be lower.

www.phlaunt.com/diabetes

Susan