Pushing HR and Weight Loss

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 at 05:37 GMT, Pete (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

I am after weight loss more than anything.
My question is, do I have to push my self on long rides of say around 80
km/s.

Gee! I think you will have to push yourself /very/ hard to go 80
kilometres per second.

Quoted message said:

I say push myself like sitting mostly on over 75% of my max HR.

If I push myself to say around 50%, I feel like I am getting no benifit.

What should I do, should I listen to the No Pain No Gain thing ?

Pain is overrated. I prefer being slow 🙂

And I am afraid, 80km/s is just way beyond me - I'll stick to studying
High Velocity Clouds which do > 220 km/s.

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law-abiding citizens want to blow up politicians. -- Mark South on ARK

Distance of 80 Kilometres round trip, was that too hard to understand ????
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Quoted message said:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 at 05:37 GMT, Pete (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

I am after weight loss more than anything.
My question is, do I have to push my self on long rides of say around 80
km/s.

Gee! I think you will have to push yourself /very/ hard to go 80
kilometres per second.

Quoted message said:

I say push myself like sitting mostly on over 75% of my max HR.

If I push myself to say around 50%, I feel like I am getting no benifit.

What should I do, should I listen to the No Pain No Gain thing ?

Pain is overrated. I prefer being slow 🙂

And I am afraid, 80km/s is just way beyond me - I'll stick to studying
High Velocity Clouds which do > 220 km/s.

--
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
It's funny, isn't it? All this antiterrorist legislation makes ordinary
law-abiding citizens want to blow up politicians. -- Mark South on ARK

TimC said:

And I am afraid, 80km/s is just way beyond me - I'll stick to studying
High Velocity Clouds which do > 220 km/s.

They do what??

Cheers
Peter

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 at 06:12 GMT, Peter Signorini (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

TimC said:

And I am afraid, 80km/s is just way beyond me - I'll stick to studying
High Velocity Clouds which do > 220 km/s.

They do what??

Clouds around our Galaxy that rotate faster than they should - ie,
greater than 220 kilometres per second.

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TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
You must realize that the computer has it in for you. The irrefutable
proof of this is that the computer always does what you tell it to do.

Pete said:

What should I do, should I listen to the No Pain No Gain thing ?

Nope.
1) cut your calorie intake.
2) bicycle more

Pete said:

I am after weight loss more than anything.
My question is, do I have to push my self on long rides of say around 80
km/s.

I say push myself like sitting mostly on over 75% of my max HR.

If I push myself to say around 50%, I feel like I am getting no benifit.

What should I do, should I listen to the No Pain No Gain thing ?

To lose weight, make sure that the calories you burn exceed the calories you
eat.

quote='Terry Collins'Pete said:

What should I do, should I listen to the No Pain No Gain thing ?

Nope.
1) cut your calorie intake.
2) bicycle more[/QUOTE]

At the risk of being a Me Too post, "Me Too" - the 1st principal component of losing weight is diet, exercise is next. Eat one less donut a day and you're off to a good start.

Also, if you can do 80km at 75% of MHR, you'll get home earlier than if you rode it at 50% of MHR. It will also burn a few extra calories, but not enough to make a significant difference.

OTOH, riding harder improves your fitness, provided you don't take it to the point of overtraining...

Ritch

ritcho said:

At the risk of being a Me Too post, "Me Too" - the 1st principal
component of losing weight is diet, exercise is next. Eat one less
donut a day and you're off to a good start.

Ritcho sounds like you have been listening in on my current diet where I
have taken to substituting fruit for my usual donut/vanilla slice intake
(mmmmmm vanilla slice) . That and cutting back my chocolate intake by
half has allowed me to lose 1/2 kg a week for the past month without any
additional exercise, actually exercise has probably dropped seeing I'm
not running at the moment.

Agree with what you're saying, increasing the exercise could only drop
so much weight, and I've got to a point where diet has to come into it.

DaveB

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Quoted message said:

Pete said:

I am after weight loss more than anything.
My question is, do I have to push my self on long rides of say around 80
km/s.

I say push myself like sitting mostly on over 75% of my max HR.

If I push myself to say around 50%, I feel like I am getting no benifit.

What should I do, should I listen to the No Pain No Gain thing ?

To lose weight, make sure that the calories you burn exceed the calories

you

Quoted message said:

eat.

DaveB said:

... actually exercise has probably dropped seeing I'm
not r...
DaveB

repeat after me...

"I will not mention the 'R' word, under pain of death, or until such time as I can 'R' faster down 'the hill' than the bunch, doing 'R'

F"StK-crit-tomorrow"Dutch

flyingdutch said:

repeat after me...

"I will not mention the 'R' word, under pain of death, or until such time as I can 'R' faster down 'the hill' than the bunch, doing 'R'

F"StK-crit-tomorrow"Dutch

The 'R' word? I can't do anything else at the moment. Lunchtimes are 'R'-swim-'R' for me right now. According to the shop, the frame should be somewhere in transit from the US after having to wait for it to be produced. 🙁

Actually, I've ridden once in the last three weeks - my wife has a _very_ lightly used hybrid that I use for nipping down to the shops and buying the milk and bread...

Ritch

Pete said:

I am after weight loss more than anything.

Quoted message said:

I say push myself like sitting mostly on over 75% of my max HR.

Exercise for weight loss is more about getting fit than actual calories
burned during exercise. Thats a very important point.

Also, ride at the speed thats comfortable. Exercise programs fail
because they stop doing it, rather than not exercising hard enough.
Once you get fit, you'll find it quite easy to maintain 75% MHR.

Quoted message said:

If I push myself to say around 50%, I feel like I am getting no benifit.

What should I do, should I listen to the No Pain No Gain thing ?

Cycling doesnt need to be painful. Thats why I prefer it to jogging :-)
But if you are very unfit, there will be some pain at first.
The good news its that its much more pleasant to maintain fittness.

HTH