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Puncture/schrader valve/pump question

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  1. The front tire on my road bike has a puncture. I have a Schwinn pump
    that has two outlets to accomodate regular valves as well as schrader
    valves. While the tube is inside the tire, I am able to attach my pump
    to the schrader valve on this bike and fill the tube with air (of
    course, thanks to the puncture, it promply empties) -- I have no idea
    how the pump figures out it's supposed to pump air from the schrader
    outlet and not the other one.

    To repair the puncture, I took the tire off the rim, and removed the
    tube. Now, when I try to pump the tube with air, the pump only pumps
    through the wrong outlet (the schrader has been opened to let in air).
    Weird.

    Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

    -Premal

  2. Quick correction: This bike has a presta valve not a schrader valve --
    sorry!

    Premal P. Vora said:

    The front tire on my road bike has a puncture. I have a Schwinn pump
    that has two outlets to accomodate regular valves as well as schrader
    valves. While the tube is inside the tire, I am able to attach my pump
    to the schrader valve on this bike and fill the tube with air (of
    course, thanks to the puncture, it promply empties) -- I have no idea
    how the pump figures out it's supposed to pump air from the schrader
    outlet and not the other one.

    To repair the puncture, I took the tire off the rim, and removed the
    tube. Now, when I try to pump the tube with air, the pump only pumps
    through the wrong outlet (the schrader has been opened to let in air).
    Weird.

    Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

    -Premal

  3. On 13 Oct 2006 11:45:23 -0700, "Premal P. Vora" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    The front tire on my road bike has a puncture. I have a Schwinn pump
    that has two outlets to accomodate regular valves as well as schrader
    valves. While the tube is inside the tire, I am able to attach my pump
    to the schrader valve on this bike and fill the tube with air (of
    course, thanks to the puncture, it promply empties) -- I have no idea
    how the pump figures out it's supposed to pump air from the schrader
    outlet and not the other one.

    To repair the puncture, I took the tire off the rim, and removed the
    tube. Now, when I try to pump the tube with air, the pump only pumps
    through the wrong outlet (the schrader has been opened to let in air).
    Weird.

    Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

    -Premal

    Dear Premal,

    Push the tube against the base of the tire valve to provide
    resistance:

    |
    ___ |____

    _________
    ^
    |
    push tube upward against bottom of valve

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  4. <[email hidden]> wrote: Push the tube against the base of the tire
    valve to provide resistance: (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    The first thing I would do is try it on the other tire (that is still
    inflated) to make sure it is working okay. Presta stems usually are held to
    the rim by a nut, so when you apply the connector, the stem is firm. With
    the tube off the rim, I'll bet you are not inserting it far enough to
    actuate the mysterious linkage to close off the Shraeder opening. This is
    consistent with what Carl V. said.

  5. Leo Lichtman said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote: Push the tube against the base of the tire
    valve to provide resistance: (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    The first thing I would do is try it on the other tire (that is still
    inflated) to make sure it is working okay. Presta stems usually are held to
    the rim by a nut, so when you apply the connector, the stem is firm. With
    the tube off the rim, I'll bet you are not inserting it far enough to
    actuate the mysterious linkage to close off the Shraeder opening. This is
    consistent with what Carl V. said.

    Dear Leo,

    Sorry, I wasn't clear--the idea is to seal the base of the Schrader or
    Presta valve and provide back pressure.

    Twin-head air chucks work by air resistance. If there's not enough
    back pressure to trip the valve (an empty inner tube), the wrong
    outlet may stay stubbornly open.

    Usually, pressing the tire and tube flat against the base of the valve
    provides enough back pressure to trip the annoying valve and make it
    notice which outlet you want to use.

    Ryan Cousineau explained this gentle push-the-tube-against-the-base
    trick that provides back pressure and cured me of my more enjoyable
    habit of giving the recalcitrant twin-head chuck a brisk whap with the
    handiest tool to wake it up.

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

  6. HOORAY! ... this worked like a charm ... thanks!

    Quoted message said:


    Dear Premal,

    Push the tube against the base of the tire valve to provide
    resistance:

    |
    ___ |____

    _________
    ^
    |
    push tube upward against bottom of valve

    Cheers,

    Carl Fogel

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