Pump brand choice

there isn't much not to like about a 508. My wife has the Paradigm and
I'm just as happy with my 508 as she is with the Paradigm. Minimed sure
ticked us off with that letter informing us it is no longer considered
water tight. Would I switch brands because of that? No way. I wouldn't
get any pump whose rate of infusion is more like an insulin shot, than
the slow release of the Minimed's. I can program my pump in my sleep.
The "pizza" bolus feature (dual wave) is cool, as is the square wave.
Reliability is a known factor on the Minimeds; don't know about the
others. The FDA just took it's top competitor off the market, under
scandalous circumstances. Would you trust insulin going into your body
by an relatively unknown device? I'm not that brave. I'll keep my
Minimed thank you! 🙂

dave

Charly Coughran said:

The last year and a half I've been taking a class that meets on Mondays and haven't been able to
make the local Pumpers Club. This has isolated me from much of the word on the street about the
pluses and minuses of the new pump models and vendors. My MiniMed 507C is on the fritz and I need
to upgrade.

My choices seem to boil down to the MiniMed 512, the Animas current model with a free upgrade to
the one coming out early next year, and the Deltec Cozmo.

Does anyone have feelings about the Deltec Cozmo, either pump or company? They don't seem to have
enough market penetration to even show on the Insulin Pumpers web site, but my Diabetes Educator
seems to like them.

MiniMed customer service seems to have gone downhill since Medtronic got involved. I'm somewhat
[censored] at them, but don't want to rue a jump for the next half decade or so.

I had a parking lot conversation with someone last time I attended a pumper's meeting who ranted
for a half hour about the programming the Animas and complaining that she wished she had not
switched from her MiniMed.

All in all, I have no favorites at the moment.

Any comments you can squeeze off will be appreciated.

let me add: the MOST important failure for a pump NOT to exhibit is "runaway", or over pumping. that
can be deadly. The Minimeds are well known NOT to have that issue. I've read about other pumps, even
in this modern day and age, of "runaway" failures. Your heirs will be [censored] at the pump company,
but you'll be pushing up daisies.

dave

Charly Coughran said:

The last year and a half I've been taking a class that meets on Mondays and haven't been able to
make the local Pumpers Club. This has isolated me from much of the word on the street about the
pluses and minuses of the new pump models and vendors. My MiniMed 507C is on the fritz and I need
to upgrade.

My choices seem to boil down to the MiniMed 512, the Animas current model with a free upgrade to
the one coming out early next year, and the Deltec Cozmo.

Does anyone have feelings about the Deltec Cozmo, either pump or company? They don't seem to have
enough market penetration to even show on the Insulin Pumpers web site, but my Diabetes Educator
seems to like them.

MiniMed customer service seems to have gone downhill since Medtronic got involved. I'm somewhat
[censored] at them, but don't want to rue a jump for the next half decade or so.

I had a parking lot conversation with someone last time I attended a pumper's meeting who ranted
for a half hour about the programming the Animas and complaining that she wished she had not
switched from her MiniMed.

All in all, I have no favorites at the moment.

Any comments you can squeeze off will be appreciated.

"Charly Coughran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The last year and a half I've been taking a class that meets on Mondays and haven't been able to
make the local Pumpers Club. This has isolated me from much of the word on the street about the
pluses and minuses of the new pump models and vendors. My MiniMed 507C is on the fritz and I need
to upgrade.

My choices seem to boil down to the MiniMed 512, the Animas current model with a free upgrade to
the one coming out early next year, and the Deltec Cozmo.

You should be able to get your 507c repaired for about $500, and that should include another 4 years
support. Me, I'm looking at the other companies, but they would have to have some exceptional
improvement to get me to switch from MiniMed. I currently have a 508, which is better than a 507c;
but I would prefer the 512 if it supported 300 units of insulin (soon to happen I understand)..

This is one place not to choose the low bidder!

--
George Eberhardt
(732)224-8988

We have had NO problems programming the Animas Pump. My 13 yr. old daughter wears it & does most of
the programming and I also do some of the programming. It's as easy as playing with a bank machine.

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I had a parking lot conversation with someone last time I attended a pumper's meeting who ranted
for a half hour about the programming the Animas and complaining that she wished she had not
switched from her MiniMed.

All in all, I have no favorites at the moment.

Any comments you can squeeze off will be appreciated.

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Charly Coughran [email hidden]

Mon said:

My choices seem to boil down to the MiniMed 512, the Animas current model with a free upgrade to
the one coming out early next year, and the Deltec Cozmo.

complete your T1 education by using beef-Lente either 1x or 2x for your background. nas sez that
from CP the insulin and shipping currently average out to about $40/1000u. and you won't have that
damn pump connected to you 24/7

my hunch is that you'll know by the 3 month mark, but nonetheless plan on giving it a year

my 2nd hunch is that you'll be more impressed with beef-Lente than you were with your recent try of
lantoss. but i've never used lantoss

bill t1 since '57, ex 8-yr pumper, pork-L 2x, simple MDI/DAFNE

Charly Coughran said:

The last year and a half I've been taking a class that meets on Mondays and haven't been able to
make the local Pumpers Club. This has isolated me from much of the word on the street about the
pluses and minuses of the new pump models and vendors. My MiniMed 507C is on the fritz and I need
to upgrade.

My choices seem to boil down to the MiniMed 512, the Animas current model with a free upgrade to
the one coming out early next year, and the Deltec Cozmo.

Does anyone have feelings about the Deltec Cozmo, either pump or company? They don't seem to have
enough market penetration to even show on the Insulin Pumpers web site, but my Diabetes Educator
seems to like them.

MiniMed customer service seems to have gone downhill since Medtronic got involved. I'm somewhat
[censored] at them, but don't want to rue a jump for the next half decade or so.

I had a parking lot conversation with someone last time I attended a pumper's meeting who ranted
for a half hour about the programming the Animas and complaining that she wished she had not
switched from her MiniMed.

All in all, I have no favorites at the moment.

Any comments you can squeeze off will be appreciated.

have you checked out insulin-pumpers.orginsulin-pumpers.orgOpen ↗ for more detailed responses from a lot
of pumpers?

Mack Type 1 since 1975 alt-support-diabetes.orgalt-support-diabetes.orgOpen ↗ insulin-pumpers.orginsulin-pumpers.orgOpen ↗

In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a
world filled with strife and terrorism.

I recommend Animas. The IR1000 has been very reliable, incredible battery life, and it is small and
compact. Most important, the Animas company cares about its customers.

I had a Minimed pump for 14 years. I changed to Animas 18 months ago because Minimed had become a
big, greedy company with impersonal "service." Last month, Minimed confirmed my choice when I
received a first time bill for supplies I bought FOUR YEARS AGO, back in 1999. At the time, Minimed
accepted insurance payment as full payment, but four years later they reneged on those terms. When I
spoke to Minimed's local rep, I was told that Minimed sent out 24,000 such bills.

My advice: consider the business ethics of the pump company you pick and get every promise in
writing and file it away.

Mon said:

My choices seem to boil down to the MiniMed 512, the Animas current model with a free upgrade to
the one coming out early next year, and the Deltec Cozmo.

Quoted message said:

Any comments you can squeeze off will be appreciated.

ask Animas if they'll let you keep the current pump (when you do the free upgrade), or if they'll
let you have it for some reasonable fee (like $100), given that'll it'll be considered to be "out of
warranty" as soon as you get the new pump

if they will, that's a definite plus for going with Animas

also, be sure to either get it in writing, or that you have high confidence in any verbal
promises. 🙂

bill t1 since '57, ex 8-yr pumper

realized I used the wrong word. "Heirs" should be "friends and family".

dave

Bay Area Dave said:

let me add: the MOST important failure for a pump NOT to exhibit is "runaway", or over pumping.
that can be deadly. The Minimeds are well known NOT to have that issue. I've read about other
pumps, even in this modern day and age, of "runaway" failures. Your heirs will be [censored] at the
pump company, but you'll be pushing up daisies.

dave

Charly Coughran said:

The last year and a half I've been taking a class that meets on Mondays and haven't been able to
make the local Pumpers Club. This has isolated me from much of the word on the street about the
pluses and minuses of the new pump models and vendors. My MiniMed 507C is on the fritz and I need
to upgrade.

My choices seem to boil down to the MiniMed 512, the Animas current model with a free upgrade to
the one coming out early next year, and the Deltec Cozmo.

Does anyone have feelings about the Deltec Cozmo, either pump or company? They don't seem to have
enough market penetration to even show on the Insulin Pumpers web site, but my Diabetes Educator
seems to like them.

MiniMed customer service seems to have gone downhill since Medtronic got involved. I'm somewhat
[censored] at them, but don't want to rue a jump for the next half decade or so.

I had a parking lot conversation with someone last time I attended a pumper's meeting who ranted
for a half hour about the programming the Animas and complaining that she wished she had not
switched from her MiniMed.

All in all, I have no favorites at the moment.

Any comments you can squeeze off will be appreciated.

Well put, George!

George Eberhardt wrote: snip

Quoted message said:

This is one place not to choose the low bidder!

I believe the Minimed 712 is now available. It's the same as the 512 except it holds 300 units.

Rick

"George Eberhardt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
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Quoted message said:

"Charly Coughran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

The last year and a half I've been taking a class that meets on Mondays and haven't been able to
make the local Pumpers Club. This has isolated me from much of the word on the street about the
pluses and minuses of the new pump models and vendors. My MiniMed 507C is on the fritz and I
need to upgrade.

My choices seem to boil down to the MiniMed 512, the Animas current model with a free upgrade to
the one coming out early next year, and the Deltec Cozmo.

You should be able to get your 507c repaired for about $500, and that

should

Quoted message said:

include another 4 years support. Me, I'm looking at the other companies, but they would have to
have some exceptional improvement to get me to

switch

Quoted message said:

from MiniMed. I currently have a 508, which is better than a 507c; but I would prefer the 512 if
it supported 300 units of insulin (soon to happen

I

Quoted message said:

understand)..

This is one place not to choose the low bidder!

--
George Eberhardt
(732)224-8988

Kevin,

I had a similar experience; they tried to bill me for keeping my old pump (something like $800) for
a transaction 2 years earlier, where the salesman said I get to keep my old pump if I buy a 508. I
had to go to a VP to get it resolved. Their business practices are very shady.

dave

Kevin said:

I recommend Animas. The IR1000 has been very reliable, incredible battery life, and it is small
and compact. Most important, the Animas company cares about its customers.

I had a Minimed pump for 14 years. I changed to Animas 18 months ago because Minimed had become a
big, greedy company with impersonal "service." Last month, Minimed confirmed my choice when I
received a first time bill for supplies I bought FOUR YEARS AGO, back in 1999. At the time,
Minimed accepted insurance payment as full payment, but four years later they reneged on those
terms. When I spoke to Minimed's local rep, I was told that Minimed sent out 24,000 such bills.

My advice: consider the business ethics of the pump company you pick and get every promise in
writing and file it away.