Puerta and Puerto

Wayne666 said:

Interesting connection that hasn't been brought up, or maybe I just missed it in the other thread's nonsense.

The team of the Spanish footballer who died is FC Sevilla, which is one of the teams linked to Fuentes in OP. Maybe this could cause the authorities in Spain to get off their asses and do something constructive?

Afraid not. In this case, if you read the European press (German, French, Spanish) not one single paper brings up the spectre of Fuentes around Puerta's death. The reason given for his death is also very common with young men ( I looked it up yesterday - anoxic encephalopathy, following ventricular arrhythmia - what caused the arrhythmia???)

adamastor said:

Afraid not. In this case, if you read the European press (German, French, Spanish) not one single paper brings up the spectre of Fuentes around Puerta's death. The reason given for his death is also very common with young men ( I looked it up yesterday - anoxic encephalopathy, following ventricular arrhythmia - what caused the arrhythmia???)

After a death, decency is required. Everyone, his family can have a rest.
But the questions are open, even with a second case in England.
We have to considered that there is around 8000-10000 pro football players in Europe, and just around 400-500 riders!

adamastor said:

Afraid not. In this case, if you read the European press (German, French, Spanish) not one single paper brings up the spectre of Fuentes around Puerta's death. The reason given for his death is also very common with young men ( I looked it up yesterday - anoxic encephalopathy, following ventricular arrhythmia - what caused the arrhythmia???)

Young people do die of heart attacks naturally. Anoxic encephalopathy probably just means his brain was severely damaged by lack of oxygen and that's what killed him even though they had got his arrythmic heart beating again.

The media also claims:

1) Lance Armstrong is a Cancer icon and clean athlete (untrue)
2) WADA is making anti-doping progress (untrue)
3) The economy is growing (false)
4) inflation is a chief concern, not lower rates or recession (patently false)
5) 22 year old elite athletes die of heart failure all the time (false)

Puerta may be a Puerto blood doping client. His family would want to know so that they could sue and collect more money. I doubt that this young man owned much life insurance.

If you depend on media for information---you live in a magical corporate marketing bubble.

adamastor said:

Afraid not. In this case, if you read the European press (German, French, Spanish) not one single paper brings up the spectre of Fuentes around Puerta's death. The reason given for his death is also very common with young men ( I looked it up yesterday - anoxic encephalopathy, following ventricular arrhythmia - what caused the arrhythmia???)

It's so sad. Unfortunately most people will not connect his death with doping. It will be chalked up to a random tragedy. If people really knew the pervasiveness of peds I would hope common human decency would demand the Spaniards to open their secret sources and eradicate drugs.

Football is much more popular sport and would have a greater impact in bringing the issue to the forefront. As it is cycling is seen as the atlas for all performance enhancing drugs and therefore conveniently cast aside as an asterisk of sport. In this way, hein's postings garner plausibility.

adamastor said:

Afraid not. In this case, if you read the European press (German, French, Spanish) not one single paper brings up the spectre of Fuentes around Puerta's death. The reason given for his death is also very common with young men ( I looked it up yesterday - anoxic encephalopathy, following ventricular arrhythmia - what caused the arrhythmia???)

That's not correct some Italian papers linked Puerta with Fuuentes and Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws did that as well:

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cyclingheroes said:

That's not correct some Italian papers linked Puerta with Fuuentes and Belgian newspaper Het Laatste Nieuws did that as well:

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This mornings Guardian newspaper reports that the deceased did have a history of heart trouble.

limerickman said:

This mornings Guardian newspaper reports that the deceased did have a history of heart trouble.

Do you mean this story or something else ? (which might be only in the print edition?):
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cyclingheroes said:

Do you mean this story or something else ? (which might be only in the print edition?):
football.guardian.co.uk0,,2158091,00.htmlOpen ↗

That link appears in the printed version that I bought and read this morning.

The other piece also referred to the dizzy spells and his having been diagnosed with a mild coronary condition : not serious enough to prevent his playing football.
Can't find the article on the website.

limerickman said:

That link appears in the printed version that I bought and read this morning.

The other piece also referred to the dizzy spells and his having been diagnosed with a mild coronary condition : not serious enough to prevent his playing football.
Can't find the article on the website.

Thanks, I will order a copy of todays edition.

limerickman said:

This mornings Guardian newspaper reports that the deceased did have a history of heart trouble.

I heard that too, I don't think it really matters if he died naturally or not, at least in regards to cycling. All that really matters is if it causes the Spanish judiciary to actually look at the OP stuff with the intention of doing something.

The whole issue is being buried in Spain. The Minister for Sport has announced he will be awarded a gold medal for sport or something similar following a meeting with the young man's parents today.

Unfortunate that his as yet unborn son will never get to meet his father.