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  1. Phil Cook and I were discussing the need to get a grip with the annual
    July expedition early to stop it descending into the normal last minute
    shambles.

    So here goes - why not South Wales again? That should cater for the
    locals such as Fran, Paul S and Bill. It is accessible from most of
    England - although we realise might be a bit of a push for the likes of
    Jhimmy. As for the distance from Scotland - well other than Duncan I do
    not recall much interest in previous expeditions from that quarter.

    Therefore, starting bid -

    14 - 16 July 2006

    Crickhowell - SO 21500 18496

    Accessible to the Black Mountains for the hard men and women - with
    river walks and Sugar Loaf etc. for the less hard.

    --
    Martin Richardson
    520/1554 Marilyns - 67% to go 60/89 Donalds - 33% to go
    61/211 Irish Hewitts - 71% to go 20/220 Corbetts - 91% to go

  2. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Martin Richardson <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Phil Cook and I were discussing the need to get a grip with the annual
    July expedition early to stop it descending into the normal last minute
    shambles.

    Quoted message said:

    So here goes - why not South Wales again? That should cater for the
    locals such as Fran, Paul S and Bill. It is accessible from most of
    England - although we realise might be a bit of a push for the likes of
    Jhimmy. As for the distance from Scotland - well other than Duncan I do
    not recall much interest in previous expeditions from that quarter.

    Quoted message said:

    Therefore, starting bid -

    Quoted message said:

    14 - 16 July 2006

    Quoted message said:

    Crickhowell - SO 21500 18496

    Quoted message said:

    Accessible to the Black Mountains for the hard men and women - with
    river walks and Sugar Loaf etc. for the less hard.

    I would prefer somewhere else. I have nothing much left to do in South
    Wales and I will in any case be there for yet another weekend a month
    before the above date.

    --
    Roger Chapman

  3. [email hidden] said...

    Quoted message said:

    Phil Cook and I were discussing the need to get a grip with the annual
    July expedition early to stop it descending into the normal last minute
    shambles.

    So here goes - why not South Wales again? That should cater for the
    locals such as Fran, Paul S and Bill. It is accessible from most of
    England - although we realise might be a bit of a push for the likes of
    Jhimmy. As for the distance from Scotland - well other than Duncan I do
    not recall much interest in previous expeditions from that quarter.

    Therefore, starting bid -

    14 - 16 July 2006

    Don't let it stop anyone else from proceding, but I can't do that
    weekend. Other than that, if I can get my fitness up a bit (it's at an
    all time low at the moment) then I'll certainly give it a go if I'm
    available.

    --
    To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @
    where common sense dictates.

  4. Martin Richardson <[email hidden]>
    Sun, 7 May 2006 21:43:39 +0100
    <news:[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Therefore, starting bid -

    14 - 16 July 2006

    I'll be elsewhere in Europe.

    --
    The buck doesn't stop with me
    - it doesn't even slow down when it's passing.
    {Henny Youngman}

  5. Martin Richardson said:

    Therefore, starting bid -

    14 - 16 July 2006

    Crickhowell - SO 21500 18496

    Accessible to the Black Mountains for the hard men and women - with
    river walks and Sugar Loaf etc. for the less hard.

    A quick look at the diary suggests I'm currently free that weekend.
    I've never walked in the Black Mountains (I don't think), so put me
    down as a definite maybe.

    Judith

  6. "Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from Martin Richardson <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Phil Cook and I were discussing the need to get a grip with the annual
    July expedition early to stop it descending into the normal last minute
    shambles.

    Quoted message said:

    So here goes - why not South Wales again? That should cater for the
    locals such as Fran, Paul S and Bill. It is accessible from most of
    England - although we realise might be a bit of a push for the likes of
    Jhimmy. As for the distance from Scotland - well other than Duncan I do
    not recall much interest in previous expeditions from that quarter.

    Quoted message said:

    Therefore, starting bid -

    Quoted message said:

    14 - 16 July 2006

    Quoted message said:

    Crickhowell - SO 21500 18496

    Quoted message said:

    Accessible to the Black Mountains for the hard men and women - with
    river walks and Sugar Loaf etc. for the less hard.

    I would prefer somewhere else. I have nothing much left to do in South
    Wales and I will in any case be there for yet another weekend a month
    before the above date.

    --
    Roger Chapman

    completely off topic here, but are you the mathematician roger chapman?

  7. In article <[email hidden]>, Judith
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Martin Richardson said:

    Therefore, starting bid -

    14 - 16 July 2006

    Crickhowell - SO 21500 18496

    Accessible to the Black Mountains for the hard men and women - with
    river walks and Sugar Loaf etc. for the less hard.

    A quick look at the diary suggests I'm currently free that weekend.
    I've never walked in the Black Mountains (I don't think), so put me
    down as a definite maybe.

    Judith

    Don't forget your wellies :-)

    Some parts are definitely wellie-land.
    --
    Bill Grey
    http://www.billboy.co.uk

  8. Martin Richardson said:

    As for the distance from Scotland - well other than Duncan I do
    not recall much interest in previous expeditions from that quarter.

    Apart from being a deeply antisocial lot (or maybe that's just me),
    haven't the vast majority of previous expeditions been in Wales &
    England? Maybe that's why there hasn't been much interest in them from
    people in Scotland.

    Colin

  9. Colin MacDonald said:
    Martin Richardson said:

    As for the distance from Scotland - well other than Duncan I do
    not recall much interest in previous expeditions from that quarter.

    Apart from being a deeply antisocial lot (or maybe that's just me),
    haven't the vast majority of previous expeditions been in Wales &
    England? Maybe that's why there hasn't been much interest in them from
    people in Scotland.

    We've just had one in Scotland - well sort of - Martin's compleation
    jaunt to Mull. We met up in Skye waaaaay back and also in Glen Coe one
    very cold February. Then last year we met at Tibbie Sheils.

    I rest my case.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  10. "Martin Richardson" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Therefore, starting bid -

    14 - 16 July 2006

    Crickhowell - SO 21500 18496

    Okay.

    Paul

  11. Phil Cook said:
    Colin MacDonald said:
    Martin Richardson said:

    As for the distance from Scotland - well other than Duncan I do
    not recall much interest in previous expeditions from that quarter.

    Apart from being a deeply antisocial lot (or maybe that's just me),
    haven't the vast majority of previous expeditions been in Wales &
    England? Maybe that's why there hasn't been much interest in them from
    people in Scotland.

    We've just had one in Scotland - well sort of - Martin's compleation
    jaunt to Mull. We met up in Skye waaaaay back and also in Glen Coe one
    very cold February. Then last year we met at Tibbie Sheils.

    I rest my case.

    What case is that? That 15 out of 19 expeditions doesn't constitute a
    'vast majority'? I reckon it's more the case that the people who are
    of a mind to go on URW expeditions find it easier to get to Wales or
    the lake district than to anywhere north of Carlisle.

    Which is fine - I'm not complaining. I'm just making the point that,
    err, well, I'm not quite sure what my point is actually. I'll just go
    and dribble in the corner.

    Colin

  12. "Colin MacDonald" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    What case is that? That 15 out of 19 expeditions doesn't constitute a
    'vast majority'?

    I think Phil's case is that of the four Scottish expeditions, very few Scots
    have bothered to turn up for them.

    Paul

  13. The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Jeremy Watts" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    completely off topic here, but are you the mathematician roger chapman?

    No. Didn't know there was one. And just for the record I am not the pop
    singer or the golfer either. Just an obscure ex Munro basher.

    --
    Roger Chapman

  14. "Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Jeremy Watts" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    completely off topic here, but are you the mathematician roger chapman?

    No. Didn't know there was one. And just for the record I am not the pop
    singer or the golfer either. Just an obscure ex Munro basher.

    it sounded a strange question i know 🙂 its just that the person i thought
    may have been you is into walking

    Quoted message said:


    --
    Roger Chapman

  15. Roger said:

    And just for the record I am not the
    pop singer or the golfer either.

    I think your namesake would be insulted to be called a "pop" singer! Last I
    heard, Family were being referred to as an "art rock" band. Never really
    thought of them as that either, but they certainly weren't pop.

    Paul

  16. Roger said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Jeremy Watts" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    completely off topic here, but are you the mathematician roger chapman?

    No. Didn't know there was one. And just for the record I am not the pop
    singer or the golfer either. Just an obscure ex Munro basher.

    Not this one either then?

    Roger Chapman, MBE

    Qualifications: MA, FRGS. Career: retired army officer, military
    historian, and expedition organiser for Operation Drake (1977-81) and
    Operation Raleigh (1983-90). Council Member RGS (1985-88), YET
    (1980-90), BSES (1982-90); YET Screening Panel (1991-now).
    Expedition Experience: El Hamada Sands (Libya) 1963, Blue Nile
    (Ethiopia) 1968, Josterdahls Glacier (Norway) 1971, Mount Roraima
    (Guyana) 1971, Zaire River (Congo) 1974, Maya mountains (Belize) 1975,
    River Strickland (Papua New Guinea) 1978, East hreenland 1982,
    Mosquito Coast (Honduras) 1982, Cameroons (West Africa) 1989, Black
    Mountains (Pakistan) 1997, and organising 54 expeditions for Operation
    Raleigh (1983-89). Expedition Books: Expeditions the Experts Way
    (contributor), Rainforest Expeditions (with Clive Jermy) for EAC/RGS,
    and numerous articles.
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  17. The message <[email hidden]>
    from Phil Cook <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    completely off topic here, but are you the mathematician roger chapman?

    No. Didn't know there was one. And just for the record I am not the pop
    singer or the golfer either. Just an obscure ex Munro basher.

    Quoted message said:

    Not this one either then?

    Quoted message said:

    Roger Chapman, MBE

    'fraid not. Seems Roger Chapmans are rather common (and I am one of the
    more common ones). :-)

    --
    Roger Chapman

  18. Paul Saunders wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I think Phil's case is that of the four Scottish expeditions, very few
    Scots have bothered to turn up for them.

    And I imply from Colin's that our Scots brethren are disinclined to
    either initiate or attend expeds. Possibly becasue fraternising with
    the auld enemy is still frowned upon and why travel south of the
    border when everything any hillbagger would ever want can be found
    to the north of it.

    Oh, and ;-), just in case

    Chris

  19. Martin Richardson said:

    Therefore, starting bid -
    14 - 16 July 2006
    Crickhowell - SO 21500 18496

    Sounds great, and the diary has no objections (yet).
    --
    Rudi Winter, Aberystwyth, Wales

  20. On Sun, 7 May 2006 21:43:39 +0100, Martin Richardson
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |14 - 16 July 2006
    |
    |Crickhowell - SO 21500 18496

    But that is a Grid Ref accurate to 1 meter can we all *get* into one tent
    ;-)

    My GPS won't read to 1 meter ;-)
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