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  1. Dumbasses -

    check this out:

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iKoILy8T-1H7FgljqccywzJyFhzA

  2. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Dumbasses -

    check this out:

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iKoILy8T-1H7FgljqccywzJyFhzA

    Floyd is Korean?

    Joseph

  3. Kurgan Gringioni said:


    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iKoILy8T-1H7FgljqccywzJyFhzA

    So you're saying you've been doping, undetected, for all this time?

  4. Robert Chung said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iKoILy8T-1H7FgljqccywzJyFhzA

    So you're saying you've been doping, undetected, for all this time?

    Just to clarify, I'm not saying this in an accusatory tone. I'm
    looking for tips.

  5. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted post said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Dumbasses -

    check this out:

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iKoILy8T-1H7FgljqccywzJyFhzA

    Floyd is Korean?

    Joseph

    If that's what it takes, he will be.

    Maybe he has a vanishing Korean twin dog,

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
    "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

  6. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    Dumbasses -

    check this out:

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iKoILy8T-1H7FgljqccywzJyFhzA

    Is it too late to change my bets for the Beijing Olympics?

    R

  7. Robert Chung said:
    Robert Chung said:

    On May 3, 2:22 am, Kurgan Gringioni <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iKoILy8T-1H7FgljqccywzJyFhzA

    Quoted message said:

    So you're saying you've been doping, undetected, for all this time?

    Just to clarify, I'm not saying this in an accusatory tone. I'm
    looking for tips.

    Dumbass -

    Not saying anything. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on the
    topic. It does seem like there's a very large problem w/ their test.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  8. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on the
    topic. It does seem like there's a very large problem w/ their test.

    Double Dumbass,

    a) We covered this topic weeks ago and discussed both the genetics
    involved and the false test rates.

    b) You are only now noticing that there are problems with drug testing
    in sport? Wow.

    c) This publication will help with the argument for (eventual)
    mandatory DNA sampling of athletes that fall under the WADA code. It's
    going to make for some very interesting politics. Don't be surprised
    to see state governments to get involved over health privacy issues.
    Should be yet another entertaining round of sound and fury in the
    quest for "clean" sport.

    Mark

  9. Quoted message said:

    c) This publication will help

    Too much money has been poured into the existing procedures. Both sports
    and dope politicians will remain supporting them.

  10. Amit,

    Once again you have totally missed the point of what was written. That
    being, regardless of actual utility, various agencies desire to
    collect DNA samples from athletes and will find a way to do so. I'm
    not telling you it makes sense, I'm telling you this is the path they
    are heading down and what the discussion is going to look like. If you
    disagree with that then go ahead and make your case but don't portend
    to lecture me on why DNA collection doesn't make sense when I've never
    made the case for it.

    One last time in case you are not as dense as you currently appear to
    be: go back and read what I actually wrote -- nowhere do I suggest
    that this path is sensible or will make one iota of difference in
    catching purported doper. I merely that DNA collection it is going to
    happen (or at least be attempted) and that legitimate issues around
    improving current tests will be the basis for the collection.

    Nice strawman on the GPS chip argument though. You could do better.

    Ciao,

    Mark

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