Problem with SJS cycles track hubs

Rob Shields said:

Hi

I have some cheapo SJS cycles track hubs that I bought for a fixed gear
conversion (I can't get a link at the moment because I can't resolve
www.sjscycles.com, but they're easy enough to find on the site). They only
cost £40 so I didn't expect them to be great quality. Anyway, besides not
having proper track nuts with rotating bezels (I swapped them for better
nuts) the sealed bearings in the rear hub are lumpy after about 1000 miles
and one of the rear locknuts shattered!

I was thinking I might as well replace the axle assembly on the rear
with something better quality as well as replacing the bearings. I believe
the axle is 10mm in diameter and 137mm in length. Anyone know where I can
get a better quality axle assembly and new sealed bearings for this hub?

I would start with a good LBS if one is around. Three different solid
axle sizes around for track hubs. 10by26, 10by1 and 9.5 by 26..length
for most track rears is 174mm...Cart bea4rings are a standard size
generally, look on them for a number or measure inside, outside
diameter and thickness.

Quoted message said:

Also, are sealed bearings a standard size? I haven't used them before.

Maybe I should just suck it up and buy a Goldtech rear hub. Thoughts?

Cheers,
Rob

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Quoted message said:

Hi

I have some cheapo SJS cycles track hubs that I bought for a fixed gear
conversion (I can't get a link at the moment because I can't resolve
www.sjscycles.com, but they're easy enough to find on the site). They only
cost £40 so I didn't expect them to be great quality. Anyway, besides not
having proper track nuts with rotating bezels (I swapped them for better
nuts) the sealed bearings in the rear hub are lumpy after about 1000 miles
and one of the rear locknuts shattered!

Return 'em.

Rob Shields said:

I have some cheapo SJS cycles track hubs that I bought for a fixed gear
conversion... I didn't expect them to be great quality. Anyway, besides not
having proper track nuts with rotating bezels (I swapped them for better
nuts) the sealed bearings in the rear hub are lumpy after about 1000 miles
and one of the rear locknuts shattered!

Maybe I should just suck it up and buy a Goldtech rear hub. Thoughts?

Cheers,
Rob

SJSC are a pretty decent bunch, so they should repair or replace
unless you've seriously abused the hub in those 1000 miles. As it's
built into a wheel, the cheapest option, whether they pay or you do,
is to get a replacement hub and swap out the internals.

Long term you should get a Goldtec, there's a reason why so many
couriers ride them.

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

Kinky Cowboy said:

SJSC are a pretty decent bunch, so they should repair or replace
unless you've seriously abused the hub in those 1000 miles. As it's
built into a wheel, the cheapest option, whether they pay or you do,
is to get a replacement hub and swap out the internals.

I gave them a call and they said they'd replace any broken bits. The
problem is that the bits seem to be substandard, so I don't think I
want to use the same stuff anymore.

Quoted message said:

Long term you should get a Goldtec, there's a reason why so many
couriers ride them.

I might do that right after I re-mortgage my house to get sufficient
funds. I'm sure they're worth the money.

Quoted message said:

Kinky Cowboy*

--
Rob

I've ordered some Goldtec hubs. Huzzah!

Quoted message said:

I've ordered some Goldtec hubs. Huzzah!

That credit application came through then?

Jasper

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 20:17:54 GMT, Jasper Janssen <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've ordered some Goldtec hubs. Huzzah!

That credit application came through then?

Jasper

I think he was using hyperbole over the price; they're only about
GBP115 for a pair.

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

Kinky Cowboy said:

I think he was using hyperbole over the price; they're only about
GBP115 for a pair.

So why are they so good? Their own site just seems to say "buy from us,
it's GOOD!", rather than letting people know what specifically was so
great about it.

Jasper

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:48:55 GMT, Jasper Janssen <[email hidden]>

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Kinky Cowboy said:

I think he was using hyperbole over the price; they're only about
GBP115 for a pair.

So why are they so good? Their own site just seems to say "buy from us,
it's GOOD!", rather than letting people know what specifically was so
great about it.

Jasper

I think the main selling point is the strength of the rear hub - it
has a 14mm steel axle, and the big bearing cartridges which this
implies. All I know is I see a hell of a lot of them on courier
(messenger) bikes in London. The main shop serving couriers who ride
fixed is Condor, and they carry everything from Sovos to Phil Wood, so
people must be choosing them based on word of mouth. Mine have very
little mileage on them, just time trials and indoor track sessions, so
I'm hardly stressing them the way couriers do.

They're also beautiful, free running, available in any drilling and 4
different widths, warranted fit for radial builds and road use (and
even off road, for those perverts over at 63xc), and completely
symmetrical both side to side and front to rear, so you can build a
pair of wheels using only one length of spoke.

Kinky Cowboy*

*Batteries not included
May contain traces of nuts
Your milage may vary

I had to sell a kidney on ebay!

My LBS (Williams in Cheltenham) only have cheap replacement axles.
They're pretty good with other stuff though.

--
Rob

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:

Suzue Promax, sealed bearings, nice locknuts, flip-flop are also a
great choice for a fixie-About $125 per pair. For the best, Phil Wood,
what i have on my fixie-

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/feb/chisholm.htm

Kinky Cowboy said:

They're also beautiful, free running, available in any drilling and 4
different widths, warranted fit for radial builds and road use (and
even off road, for those perverts over at 63xc), and completely
symmetrical both side to side and front to rear, so you can build a
pair of wheels using only one length of spoke.

Are they warranted for radial builds? Damn, I built my front wheel 3x.

Zog The Undeniable said:

Kinky Cowboy said:

They're also beautiful, free running, available in any drilling and 4
different widths, warranted fit for radial builds and road use (and
even off road, for those perverts over at 63xc), and completely
symmetrical both side to side and front to rear, so you can build a
pair of wheels using only one length of spoke.

Are they warranted for radial builds? Damn, I built my front wheel
3x.

dunno, my cracked after a couple of years on my fixie road bike, they wanted
20 quid for a new shell, I got a new hub from On-One.

http://jinkas.blogspot.com/

They said I must of had the spokes too tight.

I think the problem is that the shell is cnc'd from solid instead of forged.

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