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  1. tcomeau" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    Do not bother to reference *anything* written by either Pritikin or Barnard. They are both inept,
    biased and un-scientific in all of the studies that they have done. Some of the worse examples of
    bad science can be ascribed to these two quacks. Especially in regard to diet.

  2. Home_sweet_emoH said:

    tcomeau" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Do not bother to reference *anything* written by either Pritikin or Barnard. They are both inept,
    biased and un-scientific in all of the studies that they have done. Some of the worse examples of
    bad science can be ascribed to these two quacks. Especially in regard to diet.

    Just because you're still fat?

  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Do not bother to reference *anything* written by either Pritikin or


    Barnard. They are both inept, biased and un-scientific in all of the studies that they have done.
    Some of the worse examples of bad science can be ascribed to these two quacks. Especially in regard
    to diet.<<

    This is complete and total hogwash. Pritikin appears as a co-author only in colloration with Dr.
    RJ Barnard of UCLA. All of Dr. Barnard's publications were peer-reviewed and many have appeared in
    the highest quality scientific and medical journals. Pritikin and Barnard are associated with
    ultra-low fat, low gylcemic index diets, in conjunction with a moderate exercise program. A very
    similar plan was independently developed and studied by Dr. Dean Ornish. A bibliography of these
    investigators follows below. All of this work is non-controversial. None of it has ever been
    refuted. Superior results have never been reported in peer review publications for any other diet,
    including the now popular Atkins diet. In terms of interventional studies (which involve actually
    changing one's diet and lifestyle) there is no dietary program which has been proven to be as
    effective as these diets in improving dietary lipids on a long term basis and reversing heart
    disease. Once again, there is no literature at all which exists to refute or challenge the peer
    review publications of the above authors.

    - Larry Weisenthal

  4. Here are is the Pritikin/Barnard/Ornish bibliography (not 100% complete, but representative...note
    the breadth of the studies, from basic research to animal research to clinical research. All
    completely consistent.

    1: Roberts CK, Barnard RJ. Low-carbohydrate diets as compared with low-fat diets. N Engl J Med.
    2003 Sep 4;349(10):1000-2; author reply 1000-2. No abstract available. PMID: 12959099 [PubMed
    - indexed for MEDLINE]

    2: Ngo TH, Barnard RJ, Cohen P, Freedland S, Tran C, deGregorio F, Elshimali YI, Heber D, Aronson
    WJ. Effect of isocaloric low-fat diet on human LAPC-4 prostate cancer xenografts in severe
    combined immunodeficient mice and the insulin-like growth factor axis. Clin Cancer Res. 2003
    Jul;9(7):2734-43. PMID: 12855654 [PubMed - in process]

    3: Barnard RJ, Ngo TH, Leung PS, Aronson WJ, Golding
    LA. A low-fat diet and/or strenuous exercise alters the IGF axis in vivo and reduces prostate
    tumor cell growth in vitro. Prostate. 2003 Aug 1;56(3):201-6. PMID: 12772189 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE]

    4: Koertge J, Weidner G, Elliott-Eller M, Scherwitz L, Merritt-Worden TA, Marlin R, Lipsenthal L,
    Guarneri M, Finkel R, Saunders Jr DE, McCormac P, Scheer JM, Collins RE, Ornish D. Improvement
    in medical risk factors and quality of life in women and men with coronary artery disease in
    the Multicenter Lifestyle Demonstration Project. Am J Cardiol. 2003 Jun 1;91(11):1316-22. PMID:
    12767423 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    5: Ngo TH, Barnard RJ, Leung PS, Cohen P, Aronson WJ. Insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) and IGF
    binding protein-1 modulate prostate cancer cell growth and apoptosis: possible mediators for
    the effects of diet and exercise on cancer cell survival. Endocrinology. 2003
    Jun;144(6):2319-24. PMID: 12746292 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    6: Atkins RC, Ornish D, Wadden T. Low-carb, low-fat diet gurus face off. Interview by Joan
    Stephenson. JAMA. 2003 Apr 9;289(14):1767-8, 1773. No abstract available. PMID: 12684342
    [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    7: Ngo TH, Barnard RJ, Tymchuk CN, Cohen P, Aronson WJ. Effect of diet and exercise on serum
    insulin, IGF-I, and IGFBP-1 levels and growth of LNCaP cells in vitro (United States). Cancer
    Causes Control. 2002 Dec;13(10):929-35. PMID: 12588089 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    8: Atkins RC, Sears B, Eaton B, Ornish D. Dissecting the diets. Newsweek. 2003 Jan 20;141(3):55.
    No abstract available. PMID: 12545934 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    9: Barnard RJ, Aronson WJ, Tymchuk CN, Ngo TH. Prostate cancer: another aspect of the
    insulin-resistance syndrome? Obes Rev. 2002 Nov;3(4):303-8. Review. PMID: 12458975 [PubMed -
    indexed for MEDLINE]

    10: Roberts CK, Vaziri ND, Sindhu RK, Barnard RJ. A high-fat, refined-carbohydrate diet affects
    renal NO synthase protein expression and salt sensitivity. J Appl Physiol. 2003
    Mar;94(3):941-6. Epub 2002 Oct 25. PMID: 12433862 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    11: Roberts CK, Vaziri ND, Barnard RJ. Effect of diet and exercise intervention on blood pressure,
    insulin, oxidative stress, and nitric oxide availability. Circulation. 2002 Nov
    12;106(20):2530-2. PMID: 12427646 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    12: Tymchuk CN, Barnard RJ, Ngo TH, Aronson WJ. Role of testosterone, estradiol, and insulin in
    diet- and exercise-induced reductions in serum-stimulated prostate cancer cell growth in vitro.
    Nutr Cancer. 2002;42(1):112-6. PMID: 12235642 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    13: Roberts CK, Berger JJ, Barnard RJ. Long-term effects of diet on leptin, energy intake, and
    activity in a model of diet-induced obesity. J Appl Physiol. 2002 Sep;93(3):887-93. PMID:
    12183482 [PubMed
    - indexed for MEDLINE]

    14: Ornish D. Dean Ornish, MD: a conversation with the editor. Interview by William Clifford
    Roberts, MD. Am J Cardiol. 2002 Aug 1;90(3):271-98. No abstract available. PMID: 12127615
    [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    15: Molteni R, Barnard RJ, Ying Z, Roberts CK, Gomez-Pinilla F. A high-fat, refined sugar diet
    reduces hippocampal brain-derived neurotrophic factor, neuronal plasticity, and learning.
    Neuroscience. 2002;112(4):803-14. PMID: 12088740 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    16: Roberts CK, Vaziri ND, Ni Z, Barnard RJ. Correction of long-term diet-induced hypertension and
    nitrotyrosine accumulation by diet modification. Atherosclerosis. 2002 Aug;163(2):321-7. PMID:
    12052479 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    17: Ornish D. Statins and the soul of medicine. Am J Cardiol. 2002 Jun 1;89(11):1286-90. No
    abstract available. PMID: 12031729 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    18: Roberts CK, Barnard RJ, Liang KH, Vaziri ND. Effect of diet on adipose tissue and skeletal
    muscle VLDL receptor and LPL: implications for obesity and hyperlipidemia. Atherosclerosis.
    2002 Mar;161(1):133-41. PMID: 11882325 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    19: Dunn-Emke S, Weidner G, Ornish D. Benefits of a low-fat plant-based diet. Obes Res. 2001
    Nov;9(11):731. No abstract available. PMID: 11707542 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    20: Youngren JF, Paik J, Barnard RJ. Impaired insulin-receptor autophosphorylation is an early
    defect in fat-fed, insulin-resistant rats. J Appl Physiol. 2001 Nov;91(5):2240-7. PMID:
    11641367 [PubMed
    - indexed for MEDLINE]

    21: Tymchuk CN, Tessler SB, Barnard RJ.

    serum lipids in postmenopausal women on a low-fat, high-fiber diet combined with exercise. Nutr
    Cancer. 2000;38(2):158-62. PMID: 11525592 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    22: Tymchuk CN, Barnard RJ, Heber D, Aronson WJ. Evidence of an inhibitory effect of diet and
    exercise on prostate cancer cell growth. J Urol. 2001 Sep;166(3):1185-9. PMID: 11490320 [PubMed
    - indexed for MEDLINE]

    23: Roberts CK, Vaziri ND, Liang KH, Barnard RJ. Reversibility of chronic experimental syndrome X
    by diet modification. Hypertension. 2001 May;37(5):1323-8. PMID: 11358948 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE]

    24: Ornish DM, Lee KL, Fair WR, Pettengill EB, Carroll PR. Dietary trial in prostate cancer: Early
    experience and implications for clinical trial design. Urology. 2001 Apr;57(4 Suppl 1):200-1.
    PMID: 11295627 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    25: Roberts CK, Vaziri ND, [censored] XQ, Barnard RJ. Enhanced NO inactivation and hypertension induced
    by a high-fat, refined-carbohydrate diet. Hypertension. 2000 Sep;36(3):423-9. PMID: 10988276
    [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    26: Ornish D. High-fiber diet and colorectal adenomas. N Engl J Med. 2000 Sep 7;343(10):736; author
    reply 737-8. No abstract available.

    PMID: 10979768 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    27: Fonseca V, Dicker-Brown A, Ranganathan S, Song W, Barnard RJ, Fink L, Kern PA. Effects of a
    high-fat-sucrose diet on enzymes in homocysteine metabolism in the rat. Metabolism. 2000
    Jun;49(6):736-41. PMID: 10877198 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    28: Ornish D. Very-low fat diets. Circulation. 1999 Aug 31;100(9):1013-5. No abstract available.
    PMID: 10490348 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    29: Kenney JJ, Barnard RJ, Inkeles S. Very-low-fat diets do not necessarily promote small, dense
    LDL particles. Am J Clin Nutr. 1999 Sep;70(3):423-5. No abstract available. PMID: 10479209
    [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    30: Barnard RJ. Very-low fat diets. Circulation. 1999 Aug 31;100(9):1012-3; author reply 1014-5. No
    abstract available. PMID: 10490346 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    31: Berger JJ, Barnard RJ. Effect of diet on fat cell size and hormone-sensitive lipase activity. J
    Appl Physiol. 1999 Jul;87(1):227-32. PMID: 10409579 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    32: Reil TD, Barnard RJ, Kashyap VS, Roberts CK, Gelabert HA. Diet-induced changes in
    endothelial-dependent relaxation of the rat aorta. J Surg Res. 1999 Jul;85(1):96-100. PMID:
    10383844 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    33: Barnard RJ, Inkeles SB. Effects of an intensive diet and exercise program on lipids in
    postmenopausal women. Womens Health Issues. 1999 May-Jun;9(3):155-61. PMID: 10340021 [PubMed -
    indexed for MEDLINE]

    34: Ornish D, Scherwitz LW, Billings JH, Brown SE, Gould KL, Merritt TA, Sparler S, Armstrong WT,
    Ports TA, Kirkeeide RL, Hogeboom C, Brand RJ. Intensive lifestyle changes for reversal of
    coronary heart disease. JAMA. 1998 Dec 16;280(23):2001-7. Erratum in: JAMA 1999 Apr
    21;281(15):1380. PMID: 9863851 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    35: Ornish D. Avoiding revascularization with lifestyle changes: The Multicenter Lifestyle
    Demonstration Project. Am J Cardiol. 1998 Nov 26;82(10B):72T-76T. Review. PMID: 9860380 [PubMed
    - indexed for MEDLINE]

    36: Tymchuk CN, Tessler SB, Aronson WJ, Barnard RJ.

    hormone-binding globulin, and prostate-specific antigen. Nutr Cancer. 1998;31(2):127-31. PMID:
    9770724 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    37: Ornish D. Serum lipids after a low-fat diet. JAMA. 1998 May 6;279(17):1345-6. No abstract
    available. PMID: 9582034 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    38: Barnard RJ, Roberts CK, Varon SM, Berger JJ. Diet-induced insulin resistance precedes other
    aspects of the metabolic syndrome. J Appl Physiol. 1998 Apr;84(4):1311-5. PMID: 9516198 [PubMed
    - indexed for MEDLINE]

    39: Ornish D. Dietary fat and ischemic stroke. JAMA. 1998 Apr 15;279(15):1172; author reply 1172-3.
    No abstract available. PMID: 9555749 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    40: Ornish D. Low-fat diets. N Engl J Med. 1998 Jan 8;338(2):127; author reply 128-9. No abstract
    available. PMID: 9424579 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    41: Barnard RJ, DiLauro SC, Inkeles SB. Effects of intensive diet and exercise intervention in
    patients taking cholesterol-lowering drugs. Am J Cardiol. 1997 Apr 15;79(8):1112-4. PMID:
    9114776 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    42: Beard CM, Barnard RJ, Robbins DC, Ordovas JM, Schaefer EJ. Effects of diet and exercise on
    qualitative and quantitative measures of LDL and its susceptibility to oxidation. Arterioscler
    Thromb Vasc Biol. 1996 Feb;16(2):201-7. PMID: 8620333 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    43: Bagga D, Ashley JM, Geffrey SP, [censored] HJ, Barnard RJ, Korenman S, Heber D. Effects of a very low
    fat, high fiber diet on serum hormones and menstrual function. Implications for breast cancer
    prevention. Cancer. 1995 Dec 15;76(12):2491-6. PMID: 8625075 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    44: Gould KL, Ornish D, Scherwitz L, Brown S, Edens RP, Hess MJ, Mullani N, Bolomey L, Dobbs F,
    Armstrong WT, et al. Changes in myocardial perfusion abnormalities by positron emission
    tomography after long-term, intense risk factor modification. JAMA. 1995 Sep
    20;274(11):894-901. PMID: 7674504 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    45: Czernin J, Barnard RJ, Sun KT, Krivokapich J, Nitzsche E, Dorsey D, Phelps ME, Schelbert HR.
    Effect of short-term cardiovascular conditioning and low-fat diet on myocardial blood flow
    and flow reserve. Circulation. 1995 Jul 15;92(2):197-204. PMID: 7600651 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE]

    46: Zernicke RF, Salem GJ, Barnard RJ, Schramm E. Long-term, high-fat-sucrose diet alters rat
    femoral neck and vertebral morphology, bone mineral content, and mechanical properties. Bone.
    1995 Jan;16(1):25-31. PMID: 7742079 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    47: Barnard RJ, Youngren JF, Martin DA. Diet, not aging, causes skeletal muscle insulin resistance.
    Gerontology. 1995;41(4):205-11. PMID: 7557497 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    48: Barnard RJ, Jung T, Inkeles SB. Diet and exercise in the treatment of NIDDM. The need for early
    emphasis. Diabetes Care. 1994 Dec;17(12):1469-72. PMID: 7882819 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    49: Ornish D, Denke M. Dietary treatment of hyperlipidemia. J Cardiovasc Risk. 1994 Dec;1(4):283-6.
    No abstract available. PMID: 7621309 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    50: Barnard RJ, Wen SJ. Exercise and diet in the prevention and control of the metabolic syndrome.
    Sports Med. 1994 Oct;18(4):218-28. Review. No abstract available. PMID: 7817062 [PubMed -
    indexed for MEDLINE]

    51: Ornish D, Brown SE. Treatment of and screening for hyperlipidemia. N Engl J Med. 1993 Oct
    7;329(15):1124-5; author reply 1127-8. No abstract available. PMID: 8371740 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE]

    52: Barnard RJ, Faria DJ, Menges JE, Martin DA. Effects of a high-fat, sucrose diet on serum
    insulin and related atherosclerotic risk factors in rats. Atherosclerosis. 1993
    May;100(2):229-36. PMID: 8357355 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    53: Barnard RJ, Youngren JF. Regulation of glucose transport in skeletal muscle. FASEB J. 1992
    Nov;6(14):3238-44. Review. PMID: 1426762 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    54: Gould KL, Ornish D, Kirkeeide R, Brown S, Stuart Y, Buchi M, Billings J, Armstrong W, Ports
    T, Scherwitz
    L. Improved stenosis geometry by quantitative coronary arteriography after vigorous risk factor
    modification. Am J Cardiol. 1992 Apr 1;69(9):845-53. PMID: 1550011 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    55: Barnard RJ, Ugianskis EJ, Martin DA, Inkeles SB. Role of diet and exercise in the management of
    hyperinsulinemia and associated atherosclerotic risk factors. Am J Cardiol. 1992 Feb
    15;69(5):440-4. PMID: 1736602 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    56: Salem GJ, Zernicke RF, Barnard RJ. Diet-related changes in mechanical properties of rat
    vertebrae. Am J Physiol. 1992 Feb;262(2 Pt 2):R318-21. PMID: 1539741 [PubMed - indexed
    for MEDLINE]

    57: Ornish D. What if Americans ate less fat? JAMA. 1992 Jan 15;267(3):362; author reply 363-4. No
    abstract available. PMID: 1727949 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    58: Barnard RJ. Effects of life-style modification on serum lipids. Arch Intern Med. 1991
    Jul;151(7):1389-94. PMID: 2064490 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    59: Heber D, Ashley JM, Leaf DA, Barnard RJ. Reduction of serum estradiol in postmenopausal women
    given free access to low-fat high-carbohydrate diet. Nutrition. 1991 Mar-Apr;7(2):137-9;
    discussion 139-40. PMID: 1666318 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    60: Ornish D. Reversing heart disease through diet, exercise, and stress management: an interview
    with Dean Ornish. Interview by Elaine R Monsen. J Am Diet Assoc. 1991 Feb;91(2):162-5. No
    abstract available. PMID: 1991929 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    61: Li KC, Zernicke RF, Barnard RJ, Li AF. Effects of a high fat-sucrose diet on cortical bone
    morphology and biomechanics. Calcif Tissue Int. 1990 Nov;47(5):308-13. PMID: 2257525 [PubMed -
    indexed for MEDLINE]

    62: Barnard RJ. Short-term reductions in serum lipids through diet and exercise. N Engl J Med. 1990
    Oct 18;323(16):1142-3. No abstract available. PMID: 2215586 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    63: Ornish D, Brown SE, Scherwitz LW, Billings JH, Armstrong WT, Ports TA, McLanahan SM, Kirkeeide
    RL, Brand RJ, Gould KL. Lifestyle changes and heart disease. Lancet. 1990 Sep
    22;336(8717):741-2. No abstract available. PMID: 1975906 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    64: Mehrabian M, Peter JB, Barnard RJ, Lusis AJ. Dietary regulation of fibrinolytic factors.
    Atherosclerosis. 1990 Sep;84(1):25-32. PMID: 2147372 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    65: Ornish D, Brown SE, Scherwitz LW, Billings JH, Armstrong WT, Ports TA, McLanahan SM, Kirkeeide
    RL, Brand RJ, Gould KL. Can lifestyle changes reverse coronary heart disease? The Lifestyle
    Heart Trial. Lancet. 1990 Jul 21;336(8708):129-33. PMID: 1973470 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    66: Reddy BS, Engle A, Simi B, O'Brien LT, Barnard RJ, Pritikin N, Wynder EL. Effect of low-fat,
    high-carbohydrate, high-fiber diet on fecal bile acids and neutral sterols. Prev Med. 1988
    Jul;17(4):432-9. PMID: 2851138 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    67: Grimditch GK, Barnard RJ, Hendricks L, Weitzman D.

    Peripheral insulin sensitivity as modified by diet and exercise training. Am J Clin Nutr. 1988
    Jul;48(1):38-43. PMID: 2839027 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    68: Grimditch GK, Barnard RJ, Sternlicht E, Whitson RH, Kaplan SA. Effect of diet on insulin
    binding and glucose transport in rat sarcolemmal vesicles. Am J Physiol. 1987 Mar;252(3 Pt
    1):E420-5. PMID: 3548433 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    69: Barnard RJ, Hall JA, Chaudhari A, Miller JE, Kirschenbaum MA. Effects of a low-fat,
    low-cholesterol diet on serum lipids, platelet aggregation and thromboxane formation.
    Prostaglandins Leukot Med. 1987 Mar;26(3):241-52. PMID: 3472254 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    70: Grimditch GK, Barnard RJ, Kaplan SA, Sternlicht E.

    Effect of training on insulin binding to rat skeletal muscle sarcolemmal vesicles. Am J Physiol.
    1986 May;250(5 Pt 1):E570-5. PMID: 3518488 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    71: Holly RG, Barnard RJ, Rosenthal M, Applegate E, Pritikin N. Triathlete characterization and
    response to prolonged strenuous competition. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1986 Feb;18(1):123-7. PMID:
    3959855 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    72: Sacks FM, Ornish D, Rosner B, McLanahan S, Castelli WP, Kass EH. Plasma lipoprotein levels in
    vegetarians. The effect of ingestion of fats from dairy products. JAMA. 1985 Sep
    13;254(10):1337-41. PMID: 4021011 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    73: Hubbard JD, Inkeles S, Barnard RJ. Nathan Pritikin's heart. N Engl J Med. 1985 Jul 4;313(1):52.
    No abstract available. PMID: 3889648 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    74: Rosenthal MB, Barnard RJ, Rose DP, Inkeles S, Hall J, Pritikin N. Effects of a
    high-complex-carbohydrate, low-fat, low-cholesterol diet on levels of serum lipids and
    estradiol. Am J Med. 1985 Jan;78(1):23-7. PMID: 3966484 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    75: Barnard RJ, Massey MR, Cherny S, O'Brien LT, Pritikin N. Long-term use of a
    high-complex-carbohydrate, high-fiber, low-fat diet and exercise in the treatment of NIDDM
    patients. Diabetes Care. 1983 May-Jun;6(3):268-73. PMID: 6307614 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    76: Weber F, Barnard RJ, Roy D. Effects of a high-complex-carbohydrate, low-fat diet and daily
    exercise on individuals 70 years of age and older. J Gerontol. 1983 Mar;38(2):155-61. PMID:
    6827033 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    77: Ornish D, Scherwitz LW, Doody RS, Kesten D, McLanahan SM, Brown SE, DePuey E, Sonnemaker R,
    Haynes C, Lester J, McAllister GK, Hall RJ, Burdine JA, Gotto AM Jr. Effects of stress
    management training and dietary changes in treating ischemic heart disease. JAMA. 1983 Jan
    7;249(1):54-9. PMID: 6336794 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    78: Barnard RJ, Lattimore L, Holly RG, Cherny S, Pritikin N. Response of non-insulin-dependent
    diabetic patients to an intensive program of diet and exercise. Diabetes Care. 1982
    Jul-Aug;5(4):370-4. PMID: 7151652 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

  5. "tcomeau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Pritikin has a clear and obvious vested interest in proving his diet, doesn't he? That is called a
    conflict of interest. Take any of his studies with a huge grain of salt.

  6. "Quentin Grady" wrote: <[email hidden]>"]news:[email hidden]...

    You might like to read "Beyond Pritikin" by Ann Louise Gittleman, M.S. She was the Director of
    Nutrition at a Pritikin Centre, yet she felt compelled to write book which modified some of is
    his precepts.

    In Dr. Lendon Smith forward he is quite frank in admitting the following, "Some were unhappy; some
    were hungry all the time. There may have been poor mineral adsorption. Some patients developed
    arthritis and some eczema appeared." Put simply some conclusions reached by Pritikin were modified
    by his own followers.

    OK. Let's deals specifically with the issue of flawed studies. Now I want to take special note of
    the following statement in its context.

    "At 2-3 yr of follow-up, fasting glucose was not significantly different from the value observed at
    the end of the 26-day program."

    In other words Barnard, Pritikin and all are categorically stating that their diet AND exercise
    program could only get fasting blood glucose down to 133 mg/dL give or take a bit. Now this is an
    outrageously high level. But wait it gets worse ... much worse ... they were celebrating getting
    their patients off oral medication.

    By today's standards anyone with two fasting blood glucose tests over 126 mg/dL would be
    automatically diagnosed as diabetic. The standards for acceptable fasting blood glucose levels have
    changed to the point where anything over 100 mg/dL is cause for dietary and exercise modification
    the very things Barnard and Pritikin are claiming to provide. The goal posts may have moved BUT his
    results memorialize what is achievable with his diet and what is not.

    Either that or his experimental technique was flawed. Have it which ever way you prefer.

    Choice 1. Their diet and exercise program doesn't work as an option for managing T2 diabetics.

    Choice 2. Their experimental technique was incredibly flawed.

    1: Diabetes Care. 1983 May-Jun;6(3):268-73.

    Long-term use of a high-complex-carbohydrate, high-fiber, low-fat diet and exercise in the treatment
    of NIDDM patients.

    Barnard RJ, Massey MR, Cherny S, O'Brien LT, Pritikin N.

    The purpose of this study was to assess the long-term effects of a high-complex-carbohydrate,
    high-fiber, low-fat diet and exercise on 69 NIDDM patients. During the initial 26-day program,
    fasting glucose was reduced from 179.5 +/- 10.6 to 133.5 +/- 4.0 mg/dl.

    This decrease in fasting glucose was achieved along with the discontinuation of oral hypoglycemic
    agents in 24 of 31 patients and of insulin in 13 of 18 patients; one patient was placed on insulin.
    Serum cholesterol and triglycerides were reduced by 25% and 27%, respectively. At 2-3 yr of
    follow-up, fasting glucose was not significantly different from the value observed at the end of the
    26-day program.

    Compared with the end of the 26-day program, seven more patients were taking oral agents and four
    more were on insulin. Exercise and diet inventories obtained at follow-up indicated good compliance
    to the program and also indicated that the main difference between those patients who went back on
    medication at follow-up compared with those remaining off medication was the percent of calories
    derived from fat.

    PMID: 6307614 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

    --
    Quentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading."

  7. The original Pritikin has been dead for a long time now (his son has carried on with some books of
    his own). His was not a quack.

    But the Pritikin diet is now generally thought to be too low in (good) fat and protein.

    Taken as written, it was a high-carbohydrate diet, and these diets have been linked to high blood
    pressure and other problems. I was on a Pritikin diet for a long time and am now much better off
    it. Lower bllod pressure and more energy (for *swimming* and other activities).

    However, he certainly was partly right. If you are susceptible to high LDL ("bad"😉 cholesterol, and
    most people are, you do want a diet low in saturated fats. Pritikin's books are very helpful in
    showing that an extremely-low-satirated-fat diet can cut cholesterol levels enormously! That part I
    still stick to. But I have added back in more mono and poly-unsaturated fats (salmon is great) and
    more protein (but not too much).

  8. "Don Brady" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
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    Quoted message said:


    The original Pritikin has been dead for a long time now (his son has


    carried

    Quoted message said:

    on with some books of his own). His was not a quack.

    But the Pritikin diet is now generally thought to be too low in (good)


    fat and

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    protein.

    Pritikin diet is not low in good fat Our fat need is low and too much essentual fatty acids can
    cause serious cellular damage We need only 6g of linoleic acid and 2g of alpha-linolenic acid;
    that's all the fat we need Nutritional analisys has always showed that Pritikin diet is adequate in
    essential fatty acids in that all the alpha-linolenic and linoleic acids you need are provided
    Lettuce is 10% fat and fruits on average are 8% fat whereas vegetables are even 12% So, there's not
    a lack of fat and as long as essential fatty acids need is met there's no reason to add other fats,
    in fact any fat addiction is useless while any essential fatty acids need is only dangerous Protein
    intake was 12% and again this is more than what USDA, FAO, UNESCO, and WHO suggest as ideal intake
    of dietary protein On the other hand the 30% of the zone is an idiocy not supported by any kind of
    studies of physiological and biochemical principle

    Quoted message said:

    Taken as written, it was a high-carbohydrate diet, and these diets have


    been

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    linked to high blood pressure and other problems.

    No, there are no link between high unrefined carbohydrates diets and other problems A detailed
    analysis I read showed that only adverse effect of high carboyhdrates diet is intestinal gas that
    goes away after few weeks There's no scientifical data or medical consent that high carbohydrates
    diet cause problems, let alone blood high pressure In fact, high unrefined carbohydrates diet lower
    blood pressure quickier than other diets

    Nicholas

    I was on a Pritikin diet

    Quoted message said:

    for a long time and am now much better off it. Lower bllod pressure and


    more

    Quoted message said:

    energy (for *swimming* and other activities).

    However, he certainly was partly right. If you are susceptible to high


    LDL

    Quoted message said:

    ("bad"😉 cholesterol, and most people are, you do want a diet low in


    saturated

    Quoted message said:

    fats. Pritikin's books are very helpful in showing that an extremely-low-satirated-fat diet can
    cut cholesterol levels enormously!


    That

    Quoted message said:

    part I still stick to. But I have added back in more mono and poly-unsaturated fats (salmon is
    great) and more protein (but not too


    much).

  9. The concern is that a very high carbohydrate diet (even unrefined) like Pritikin's may lead to
    Syndrome X, hyperinsulinism, and high blood pressure.

    See e.g.

    sfms.orgsfm201i.htm

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