Preventing ice build up?

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Move to Australia, I've never had mine ice-up here, even in winter, and

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only an hour from the snowfields.
Minus 10C overnight, usually into positive numbers by 9am-ish, has

sometimes

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seen my gloves ice-up on a foggy morning, but never much more than that.

Miserable git 🙂

Micheal, in 10-11 years of winter riding I've never had that problem.
Mind you I tend to ride on plowed streets and roads. I suppose that
off-road riding at around 0 C might cause a problem.

Have you actually encountered the problem or are just worried about
it

On Friday, it was about -5C and i was on plowed roads, the slushy/wet mix
that was flying up from my tires was covering my derailers, and makeing them
freeze up

Micheal

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Is there a lube that will work, or do i have to jusk bang it when it freezes
up?

thanks

Micheal

Never had it happen to me. I suppose you could coat them with WD-40
before you head out.

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Micheal Artindale said:

Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Is there a lube that will work, or do i have to jusk bang it when it freezes
up?

thanks

Micheal

1. Use your trainer *inside* when it snows
2. Don't ride in snow and ice
3. Don't ride in sub freezing temps
4. Leave them on a shelf at home (convert to SS)
5. Spray with PAM (works on my snow shovel
6. Move to Florida
7. Drink enough beer that you; don't care/don't notice/can't ride
8.

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Micheal Artindale said:

Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?
Is there a lube that will work, or do i have to jusk bang it when it
freezes
up?
thanks
Micheal

1. Use your trainer *inside* when it snows
2. Don't ride in snow and ice
3. Don't ride in sub freezing temps
4. Leave them on a shelf at home (convert to SS)
5. Spray with PAM (works on my snow shovel
6. Move to Florida
7. Drink enough beer that you; don't care/don't notice/can't ride

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8. After drinking all that beer, you can use all that pee pee as a
de-icer.

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Move to Australia, I've never had mine ice-up here, even in winter, and I'm
only an hour from the snowfields.
Minus 10C overnight, usually into positive numbers by 9am-ish, has sometimes
seen my gloves ice-up on a foggy morning, but never much more than that.

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Move to Australia, I've never had mine ice-up here, even in winter, and I'm
only an hour from the snowfields.
Minus 10C overnight, usually into positive numbers by 9am-ish, has sometimes
seen my gloves ice-up on a foggy morning, but never much more than that.

Miserable git 🙂

Micheal, in 10-11 years of winter riding I've never had that problem.
Mind you I tend to ride on plowed streets and roads. I suppose that
off-road riding at around 0 C might cause a problem.

Have you actually encountered the problem or are just worried about
it

John Kane
Kingston ON

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Yeah, ride a singlespeed.

JD

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> only an hour from the snowfields.
> Minus 10C overnight, usually into positive numbers by 9am-ish, has

sometimes

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> seen my gloves ice-up on a foggy morning, but never much more than

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Miserable git 🙂

Micheal, in 10-11 years of winter riding I've never had that problem.
Mind you I tend to ride on plowed streets and roads. I suppose that
off-road riding at around 0 C might cause a problem.

Have you actually encountered the problem or are just worried about
it

On Friday, it was about -5C and i was on plowed roads, the slushy/wet

mix

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that was flying up from my tires was covering my derailers, and makeing

them

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freeze up

Micheal

Not nice. I don't know what to suggest other than the WD 40 another
poster suggested. Maybe your municipality needs to apply more salt 🙂
I suspect that may be why I have not had the problem.

They apply more sand than salt, otherwise in the REALY cold temps, the roads
are horrible

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Are you sure it's the derailer that freezing and not moisture getting
into the cables? A shot of silicone to the cables might help?

Its not the cables, I was able to put slack in them, and still the derailer
wouldnt move.... after kicking it a couple of times, it freed up.

Micheal

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> Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Move to Australia, I've never had mine ice-up here, even in winter, and

I'm

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only an hour from the snowfields.
Minus 10C overnight, usually into positive numbers by 9am-ish, has

sometimes

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seen my gloves ice-up on a foggy morning, but never much more than that.

Miserable git 🙂

Micheal, in 10-11 years of winter riding I've never had that problem.
Mind you I tend to ride on plowed streets and roads. I suppose that
off-road riding at around 0 C might cause a problem.

Have you actually encountered the problem or are just worried about
it

On Friday, it was about -5C and i was on plowed roads, the slushy/wet mix
that was flying up from my tires was covering my derailers, and makeing them
freeze up

Micheal

Not nice. I don't know what to suggest other than the WD 40 another
poster suggested. Maybe your municipality needs to apply more salt 🙂
I suspect that may be why I have not had the problem.

Are you sure it's the derailer that freezing and not moisture getting
into the cables? A shot of silicone to the cables might help?

Good luck

John Kane
Kingston ON

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Is there a lube that will work, or do i have to jusk bang it when it freezes
up?

thanks

Micheal

There's a reason all those snow bikes are SSers. You don't need to
convert, but choosing a gear and staying in it seems to work okay. And
if you add salt to your water, your urine will require a lower
temperature to freeze
(http://sorrel.humboldt.edu/~mwg1/peeresults.html). Stay away from the
Dew. Just something to think about when your cogset gets
snow-clogged....
If you're not running discs, my rims getting iced-over negates
braking. That'll usually end my ride well before the drivetrain stops
working.

/s

LUBE it really good. I ride in every thing Mother nature
dishes out and the only thing that freezes up is my mustache.

I MTB 2004

If you have a cracked cable housing leading to the
rear derailleur water gets in and it will freeze. I had this problem
about the year 99. Had to carry a car door lock de-icer & lubricant by
Victor. Can be had at any Auto parts place like Autozone,
Napa,Carcraft,ect. Still carry it in my back pack. What also works
is lock Grafite.

I MTB 2004

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Is there a lube that will work, or do i have to jusk bang it when it

freezes

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up?

It's not a real solution, but might get you home once you've stopped and
banged the ice off - shift often.

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Not nice. I don't know what to suggest other than the WD 40 another
poster suggested. Maybe your municipality needs to apply more salt 🙂
I suspect that may be why I have not had the problem.

Are you sure it's the derailer that freezing and not moisture getting
into the cables? A shot of silicone to the cables might help?

Good luck

I can corroborate Micheal's experiences.

The conditions that most contribute to ice accumulating on the drive
train are slushy roads and temperatures ranging from -15 C to 0C.

This may seem counter-intuitive: Why are the roads slushy at -15C?
Depending on the quantity of salt or sand present, and the intensity of
traffic­the constant agitation deters freezing-roads can retain slush
and moisture well below the freezing point. This is when the trouble
begins.

The process is simple: Each revolution of the wheel deposits slush and
moisture on the rider and bike, which (because the temperature is less
than 0 degrees) quickly freezes upon settling. Repeat the process
several thousand times and you're well on your way to becoming an ice
cube on wheels.

Once there was so much ice on my bicycle it tipped the scales at 24
kg­it regularly weighs 11Kg. The wheels were ice disks; the BB shell, a
frozen globe the size of a head of cabbage head. And even the fenders
proved troublesome: Layers of ice accumulated on their undersides and
prevented the wheels from freely spinning.

The are a few measures one can take to minimize the damage and
inconvenience of ice buildup: Avoiding wide tires that have large
knobbies­these are very effective in trapping snow/slush on the road
and depositing it on your bike; installing full fenders, preferably,
with mudguards; and­I recommend this­resorting to a fixed gear bike in
inclement conditions. The last option will save money: There are less
parts to wear out and replace on a fixie.

Keep on pedalling.
Luke

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Not nice. I don't know what to suggest other than the WD 40 another
poster suggested. Maybe your municipality needs to apply more salt 🙂
I suspect that may be why I have not had the problem.

Ironically, more salt exacerbates the difficulties. The source of the
ice on the bike is road slush and moisture combined with below freezing
temperatures. The potential for ice buildup is proportionate to
quantity of water extant and how low the temperature is.

If there were no saltings, the snow/ice on the road wouldn't liquefy at
less than 0C­which, of course, introduces a whole new set of
problems­and, your wheels wouldn't shower you in a sub-zero vapor.

Riding on ice (sans snow and slush) is similar to riding on dry black
top in this respect: Your bike remains squeaky clean. And riding on
snow (in freezing temperatures) doesn't result in ice buildup: most of
the snow is shed from the bike by the motions inherent in riding.

Luke

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Are you sure it's the derailer that freezing and not moisture getting
into the cables? A shot of silicone to the cables might help?

Good luck

John Kane
Kingston ON

Hey John, do you ride much in Quinte Isle?

Luke

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Is there a lube that will work, or do i have to jusk bang it when it freezes
up?

thanks

Micheal

There's a reason all those snow bikes are SSers.

That's obviously too easy, Scott. There has to be a more complicated
"answer" that requires input from wannabe "experts" who "think" they
know the best answer.

JD

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Is there a lube that will work,

Maybe...

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or do i have to jusk bang it when it freezes
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That works for some women...

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> > only an hour from the snowfields.
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> Miserable git 🙂
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> Micheal, in 10-11 years of winter riding I've never had that problem.
> Mind you I tend to ride on plowed streets and roads. I suppose that
> off-road riding at around 0 C might cause a problem.
>
> Have you actually encountered the problem or are just worried about
> it

On Friday, it was about -5C and i was on plowed roads, the slushy/wet

mix

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that was flying up from my tires was covering my derailers, and makeing

them

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freeze up

Micheal

Not nice. I don't know what to suggest other than the WD 40 another
poster suggested. Maybe your municipality needs to apply more salt 🙂
I suspect that may be why I have not had the problem.

They apply more sand than salt, otherwise in the REALY cold temps, the roads
are horrible

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Are you sure it's the derailer that freezing and not moisture getting
into the cables? A shot of silicone to the cables might help?

Its not the cables, I was able to put slack in them, and still the derailer
wouldnt move.... after kicking it a couple of times, it freed up.

Micheal

Weird, but it does prove the "use a bigger hammer" approach to cycle
maintanence 🙂 Is there any why that moisture is getting into the
bearings of your deraileur? Otherwise maybe some lubricant on the
acutual 'hinges' of the deraileur? Sorry, I don't have the faintest
idea of the the correct technical term.

John Kane
Kingston ON

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Is there anyway to prevent my derailers from icing up?

Is there a lube that will work, or do i have to jusk bang it when it

freezes

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up?

thanks

Micheal

There's a reason all those snow bikes are SSers.

That's obviously too easy, Scott. There has to be a more complicated
"answer" that requires input from wannabe "experts" who "think" they
know the best answer.

JD

Hey JD,

Have you hugged your kid today, this week, this month, this year?

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