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  1. I made a large batch of preserved lemons using Judy Rodgers
    recipe in "The Zuni Cafe Cookbook" (a GREAT cookbook btw!)
    about a month ago and they are now ready for consumption. As
    far as I can tell they should be rinsed and seeded before
    use (Rodgers includes only one specific recipe - a butter
    caper preserved lemon sauce that sounds delicious) but
    several recipes on the net specified not to use the pulp.
    Does anyone know whether the pulp is used and if so under
    what circumstances?

    I'm also interested in any tried and tasty recipes for
    preserved lemon. I am going to try it in my osso buco recipe
    which I posted in the past ("braised veal shanks with
    olives, capers and gremolata"😉 but use preserved lemon
    instead of lemon zest. It seems like it would be a natural
    addition to any style braised fish dish with tomatoes and
    olives. I suppose you could use it in just about any dish
    that calls for lemon zest.

    Thanks in advance!

    Kate

  2. See if you can find any North African cookbooks...Moroccan,
    Algerian etc. Best writer I know of is Paula Wolfert, who
    writes wonderful moroccan cookbooks. Preserved lemons are a
    very important ingredient in many Moroccan Tagines and
    Couscouses. I tended to rinse them and use the LOT in my
    stuff, didn't want to waste any of them. They last forever
    too, if you keep adding a bit of salt to the surface before
    re-sealing the container.

    When you make a tagine or couscous, you chop up your lemon
    and add it near the end of cooking. They add an aromatic
    aspect to the dish.

    ant

  3. Kate B said:

    I made a large batch of preserved lemons using Judy
    Rodgers recipe in "The Zuni Cafe Cookbook" (a GREAT
    cookbook btw!) about a month ago and they are now ready
    for consumption. As far as I can tell they should be
    rinsed and seeded before use (Rodgers includes only one
    specific recipe - a butter caper preserved lemon sauce
    that sounds delicious) but several recipes on the net
    specified not to use the pulp. Does anyone know whether
    the pulp is used and if so under what circumstances?

    I'm also interested in any tried and tasty recipes for
    preserved lemon. I am going to try it in my osso buco
    recipe which I posted in the past ("braised veal shanks
    with olives, capers and gremolata"😉 but use preserved
    lemon instead of lemon zest. It seems like it would be a
    natural addition to any style braised fish dish with
    tomatoes and olives. I suppose you could use it in just
    about any dish that calls for lemon zest.

    COPYRIGHT 2003 – Barbara Lowery

    Serving Suggestion: Chop Preserved Lemon rind finely before
    adding to:

    * a prawn or scallop salad along with sliced semi-dried
    tomatoes, black olives & sliced red onion in a garlicky
    dressing. Serve on a bed of rocket leaves.

    * risotto, particularly with shell fish. Add at the end
    of cooking.

    * prepared couscous along with chopped mint and pine nuts.
    Serve with grilled lamb, beef or chicken.

    * a potato salad made from baby potatoes in skins, chopped
    Lebanese cucumber, sliced shallots, black olives and an
    olive oil & lemon juice dressing

    * chopped chives and scattering over fresh oysters in the
    shell, sliced smoked salmon or sliced avocado

    * mayonnaise with chopped fresh coriander. Use as a dip for
    cooked prawns

    * thick Greek-style plain yogurt with chopped mint and
    chives and use as a dip for crudite or to spoon over
    cooked fish

    * a lemon vinaigrette to spoon into avocado halves

    * pasta, rice, noodle or chick pea salads

    * stuffings for baked chicken, fish or lamb

    * mayonnaise for chicken sandwiches

    * 50/50 mayonnaise and thick yogurt with chopped flat-leaf
    parsley to serve over freshly cooked and cooled
    asparagus spears.

    --
    Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot)
    com

  4. On Tue, 18 May 2004 23:37:48 GMT, "Kate B" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I'm also interested in any tried and tasty recipes for
    preserved lemon. I am going to try it in my osso buco
    recipe which I posted in the past ("braised veal shanks
    with olives, capers and gremolata"😉 but use preserved
    lemon instead of lemon zest. It seems like it would be a
    natural addition to any style braised fish dish with
    tomatoes and olives.

    I once tried a pasta dish with mini-bowties, tomatoes,
    black olives, and preserved lemons. I cut up the lemons,
    rind and pulp. If I thought long enough, I could probably
    remember where I got the recipe, but even with only the
    above description, you could probably throw it together
    anyway. It was very good, btw, and I would/will probably
    make it again someday.

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  5. "Kate B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone know whether the pulp is used and if so
    under what


    circumstances?

    The pulp is not used that I know of and I use lots of
    preserved lemon. It is really too salty for the amount of
    lemon juice in it. The real lemony flavour and aroma is of
    course in the skin not the juice or pulp. You can however
    re-cycle the pulp to some extent by using it as the basis of
    the next batch of preserves, provided that it hasn't gone
    too brown and oxidised.

    Quoted message said:


    I'm also interested in any tried and tasty recipes for
    preserved lemon.

    It is used extensively in Moroccan cooking. Google for (for
    example) "tarjine" or "targine" I also use it as a garnish
    on things like lemon chicken.

    BTW you can also preserve limes in the same way and they
    turn out VERY yummy.

    David

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Kate B said:

    I made a large batch of preserved lemons using Judy
    Rodgers recipe in "The Zuni Cafe Cookbook" (a GREAT
    cookbook btw!) about a month ago and they are now ready
    for consumption. As far as I can tell they should be
    rinsed and seeded before use (Rodgers includes only one
    specific recipe - a butter caper preserved lemon sauce
    that sounds delicious) but several recipes on the net
    specified not to use the pulp. Does anyone know whether
    the pulp is used and if so under what circumstances?


    There may be some uses for pulp, but it's mostly scraped and
    the remaining skin choppped or slivered. I love lemons, but
    adding them to traditional or favorite dishes is a trip.
    Preserved lemons are so dominate that any more than
    miniscule additions take over a dish.

    For me a savory dish with preserved lemons is no longer
    savory. It's citric and I'd rather retain the savory and
    have a citrus side like mango-lime chutney.

    Like you I'm still looking for recipes, but faithfully keep
    those preserved lemons in the fridge.

  7. "ant" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Paula Wolfert,

    paula-wolfert.compaula-wolfert.com

    --
    Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on
    nothing but food and water.
    --------
    FIELDS, W. C.

  8. "ant" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    See if you can find any North African
    cookbooks...Moroccan, Algerian etc. Best writer I know of
    is Paula Wolfert, who writes wonderful moroccan cookbooks.
    Preserved lemons are a very important ingredient in many


    Moroccan

    Quoted message said:

    Tagines and Couscouses. I tended to rinse them and use the
    LOT in my


    stuff,

    Quoted message said:

    didn't want to waste any of them. They last forever too,
    if you keep


    adding

    Quoted message said:

    a bit of salt to the surface before re-sealing the
    container.

    When you make a tagine or couscous, you chop up your lemon
    and add it near the end of cooking. They add an aromatic
    aspect to the dish.

    ant

    I heartily second this recommendation. Moroccan cooking does
    some wonderful things with preserved lemons.

    --
    Peter Aitken

    Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

  9. "Peter Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I heartily second this recommendation. Moroccan cooking
    does some


    wonderful

    Quoted message said:

    things with preserved lemons.

    It's one of my favourite cuisines! When ever I cook a slow
    tagine and feed it to people, they are astonished. My Paula
    Wolfert book (Good Food from Morocco) is well-thumbed and
    grubby with cooking splatters. One day I shall attempt to
    make warka pastry.

    ant

  10. On Tue, 18 May 2004 23:37:48 GMT, "Kate B" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I made a large batch of preserved lemons using Judy Rodgers
    recipe in "The Zuni Cafe Cookbook" (a GREAT cookbook btw!)
    about a month ago and they are now ready for consumption.
    As far as I can tell they should be rinsed and seeded
    before use (Rodgers includes only one specific recipe - a
    butter caper preserved lemon sauce that sounds delicious)
    but several recipes on the net specified not to use the
    pulp. Does anyone know whether the pulp is used and if so
    under what circumstances?

    I don't know anything about Judy Rodger's version of
    prepared lemons but I would be interested in knowing how she
    makes them.. The preserved lemons I know about are closely
    associated with Moroccan cooking. I have made them a few
    times, having followed a method described by Paula Wolfert
    in her book, "Couscous and Other Good Food from Morocco."
    The ones I have in the refrigerator right now use the
    "optional Safi mixture" that includes--besides the lemons,
    extra lemon juice, and salt-- a cinnamon stick, cloves,
    coriander seeds, peppercorns, and bay leaf. They marinate in
    the stuff for 30 days. She says Moroccan Jews use a slightly
    different method that also includes olive oil. Some place I
    have read (Jeff Smith?) that they also pickle lemons in
    India, but they are very different. Does anyone know in what
    way they differ?

    By the way, Wolfert's book also includes a 5-day method for
    making preserved lemons which "preserved this way will not
    keep, but are perfectly acceptable in an emergency." Instead
    of dividing the lemon into quarters by cutting within 1/2"
    of the bottom and sprinkling salt on the exposed flesh
    before immersing them in lemon juice, you make 8 2-inch
    vertical incisions around the peel with a razor blade,
    cutting no deeper than the membrane that protects the pulp,
    and then boil the lemons in a stainless-steel sauce pan with
    plenty of salt until the peels are very soft. You then put
    the lemons and cooled cooking liquid in a jar to pickle for
    about 5 days.

    Concerning use of the pulp, i think the main consideration
    is how much you might like the addition of lemony sourness
    from the lemon juice in the pulp, and perhaps also the salt
    absorbed in the pickling. I often make a simple tagine
    (basically stewed lamb or beef over couscous) from Jeff
    Smith's book on the cooking immigrants have brought to the
    U.S, sometimes using a good part of the pulp, with what I
    thought were good results..

    Quoted message said:

    I'm also interested in any tried and tasty recipes for
    preserved lemon. I am going to try it in my osso buco
    recipe which I posted in the past ("braised veal shanks
    with olives, capers and gremolata"😉 but use preserved lemon
    instead of lemon zest. It seems like it would be a natural
    addition to any style braised fish dish with tomatoes and
    olives. I suppose you could use it in just about any dish
    that calls for lemon zest.

    I'm no creative cook, just a follower of recipes, but it
    sounds like you have the right idea. The main thing I think
    you will notice about the preserved lemons in comparison
    with fresh lemon zest is that they have a very mellow, less
    bitter taste. The addition of spices to the pickling also
    provides a distinctive touch.

  11. "Richard M. Kennedy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Kate B said:

    I made a large batch of preserved lemons using Judy
    Rodgers recipe in


    "The

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Zuni Cafe Cookbook" (a GREAT cookbook btw!) about a month
    ago and they


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    now ready for consumption. As far as I can tell they
    should be rinsed


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seeded before use (Rodgers includes only one specific
    recipe - a butter caper preserved lemon sauce that sounds
    delicious) but several recipes on the net specified not
    to use the pulp. Does anyone know whether the pulp


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    used and if so under what circumstances?

    I don't know anything about Judy Rodger's version of
    prepared lemons but I would be interested in knowing how
    she makes them. The preserved lemons I know about are
    closely associated with Moroccan cooking. I have made them
    a few times, having followed a method described by Paula
    Wolfert in her book, "Couscous and Other Good Food from
    Morocco." The ones I have in the refrigerator right now
    use the "optional Safi mixture" that includes--besides the
    lemons, extra lemon juice, and salt-- a cinnamon stick,
    cloves, coriander seeds, peppercorns, and bay leaf. They
    marinate in the stuff for 30 days. She says Moroccan Jews
    use a slightly different method that also includes olive
    oil. Some place I have read (Jeff Smith?) that they also
    pickle lemons in India, but they are very different. Does
    anyone know in what way they differ?

    <snippage>

    Judy Rodgers' (who won the 2004 James Beard Foundation's
    Best Chef Award) recipe calls for unwaxed ripe lemons (I
    scrubbed them as well) simmered in boiling water for about
    4 minutes. Drain then rinsed in cold water and packed
    tightly in a clean jar that "has 'shoulders' to keep the
    fruit submerged. You can cut some of the lemons into
    wedges, or slash them deeply, to make for an easier fit".
    In a small sauce pan combine water, salt, a cinnamon stick,
    black peppercorns, coriander seeds and a bay leaf and bring
    to a boil. Let cool and pour over the prepared citrus to
    cover completely. She also recommends coating the surface
    with a few tablespoons olive oil and store in a cool dry
    place for 30 days and refrigerate after opening at the end
    of the thirty days.

    Thanks to everyone for all of the great ideas! I am having
    fun with these! I am probably going to have to get Paula
    Wolfert's latest book which, coincidentally, won the 2004
    International Cook Book award from the JBF.

    Kate

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Curly Sue said:
    Kate B said:

    I'm also interested in any tried and tasty recipes for
    preserved lemon. I am going to try it in my osso buco
    recipe which I posted in the past ("braised veal shanks
    with olives, capers and gremolata"😉 but use preserved
    lemon instead of lemon zest. It seems like it would be a
    natural addition to any style braised fish dish with
    tomatoes and olives.

    I once tried a pasta dish with mini-bowties, tomatoes,
    black olives, and preserved lemons. I cut up the lemons,
    rind and pulp. If I thought long enough, I could probably
    remember where I got the recipe, but even with only the
    above description, you could probably throw it together
    anyway. It was very good, btw, and I would/will probably
    make it again someday.

    Were the tomatoes cooked, or not?

    Also, I'd be interested in the Zuni recipe. I have a lemon
    tree, so I have preserved lemons :-).

    I roasted a chicken with them a while back - don't remember
    how I liked
    it. (Iusually put fresh lemon slices under the skin of a
    chicken with the back cut out and flattened.).

    Charlotte

  13. "Kate B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Judy Rodgers' (who won the 2004 James Beard Foundation's
    Best Chef Award) recipe calls for unwaxed ripe lemons (I
    scrubbed them as well) simmered in boiling water for
    about 4 minutes.

    I made my preserved lemons according to the Paula Wolfert
    method...very simple, just slash the lemons lengthways
    twice, and salt the exposed surfaces, then reassemble and
    pack them tightly in sterilized jar so they render juice,
    put salt over the top and seal up for a about 6 weeks.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks to everyone for all of the great ideas! I am having
    fun with


    these!

    Quoted message said:

    I am probably going to have to get Paula Wolfert's latest
    book which, coincidentally, won the 2004 International
    Cook Book award from the JBF.

    Wolfert is excellent at explaining about Moroccan cooking.
    She got me hooked!

    ant

  14. Charlotte L. Blackmer said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Curly Sue said:
    Kate B said:

    I'm also interested in any tried and tasty recipes for
    preserved lemon. I am going to try it in my osso buco
    recipe which I posted in the past ("braised veal shanks
    with olives, capers and gremolata"😉 but use preserved
    lemon instead of lemon zest. It seems like it would be a
    natural addition to any style braised fish dish with
    tomatoes and olives.

    I once tried a pasta dish with mini-bowties, tomatoes,
    black olives, and preserved lemons. I cut up the lemons,
    rind and pulp. If I thought long enough, I could probably
    remember where I got the recipe, but even with only the
    above description, you could probably throw it together
    anyway. It was very good, btw, and I would/will probably
    make it again someday.

    Were the tomatoes cooked, or not?

    Yes, they were cooked to a sauce. I'll look for the recipe
    next week.

    Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  15. Charlotte wrote about preserved lemon recipes:

    Quoted message said:

    Also, I'd be interested in the Zuni recipe. I have a lemon
    tree, so I have preserved lemons :-).

    I just happen to have that recipe handy:

    Preserved Lemon-Caper Butter (from _The Zuni Cafe Cookbook_)

    "The one butter sauce I have not abandoned for salsa or
    vinaigrette. Unapologetically rich, but pungent and chunky
    with bits of fragrant citrus. Serve it with salmon, Pacific
    swordfish, bass, spearfish, or albacore. Garnish with
    potatoes roasted in their skins and wedges of slightly
    bitter grilled escarole or endive or blanched leeks. Or
    offer with artichokes or asparagus as a first course."

    FOR ABOUT ONE CUP:

    2 tablespoons dry white wine A few drops of water
    1/2 pound unsalted butter (2 sticks), sliced and chilled 1
    tablespoon capers, rinsed, pressed dry between towels, and
    barely chopped 1 tablespoon rinsed, chopped Preserved
    Lemon or Limequat, seeds removed Champagne vinegar, white
    wine vinegar, or lemon juice, as needed

    Choose a heavy saucepan 6 to 8 inches in diameter. I use a
    2-quart saucepan: for a larger quantity of sauce you can use
    a wider pan, but for this small quantity, a relatively small
    surface area is desirable. In a wide pan, changes in the
    necessarily shallow pool of liquid would happen very
    quickly, before you noticed, much less had time to cool the
    pan to slow or stop them. This leads to caramelized wine or
    separated butter sauce.

    Place the wine in the saucepan and reduce by half over
    medium heat. (If you are concerned that you won't know when
    it reaches that point, first measure 1 tablespoon of wine
    into the pan and tilt it, and try to remember what that
    amount looks like in that pan. Then add the second
    tablespoon of wine.) The reduced wine should be deep
    yellow, not amber. Taste it: it should be pungent, but not
    acrid. (If it is, pour it out, rinse the pan, and start
    again.) As soon as the wine is reduced, pull the pan from
    the heat and immediately add a few drops of water and a few
    slices of the cold butter. Swirl, reduce the heat slightly,
    and return the pan to the burner. Whisk, continuing to
    swirl the pan on the burner, until the first pats of butter
    are nearly melted. Add another few, and continue whisking
    to encourage emulsion. The emerging sauce will gain body as
    you add more butter. Don't allow it to boil; if it starts,
    quickly pull the pan from the burner, add a drop, or a few
    drops, of water at the edge, and swirl the pan to
    restabilize the emulsion.

    Once all of the butter is added, stir in the capers and
    preserved lemon. Taste. The sauce will taste underseasoned
    at first, but it will get saltier as the condiments infuse
    it. Add a few drops of white wine, vinegar, or lemon juice
    if you would like the sauce more [censored].

    You can keep the warm sauce covered in a warm spot, but not
    over direct heat - a double boiler is a fine idea, but it
    is imminently possible to break the sauce by resting it
    over, or in, hot water. We hold butter sauces in a double
    boiler, but instead of using water we stuff the bottom
    chamber with crumpled newspaper. This arrangement insulates
    the fragile sauce both from direct heat and from drafts.
    [BOB'S NOTE: Seems like a wide-mouth thermos would do an
    even better job.]

    Bob

  16. Bob said:

    I just happen to have that recipe handy:

    Preserved Lemon-Caper Butter (from _The Zuni Cafe
    Cookbook_)

    "The one butter sauce I have not abandoned for salsa or
    vinaigrette. Unapologetically rich, but pungent and chunky
    with bits of fragrant citrus. Serve it with salmon,
    Pacific swordfish, bass, spearfish, or albacore. Garnish
    with potatoes roasted in their skins and wedges of
    slightly bitter grilled escarole or endive or blanched
    leeks. Or offer with artichokes or asparagus as a first
    course."

    FOR ABOUT ONE CUP:

    2 tablespoons dry white wine A few drops of water
    1/2 pound unsalted butter (2 sticks), sliced and chilled 1
    tablespoon capers, rinsed, pressed dry between towels,
    and barely chopped 1 tablespoon rinsed, chopped
    Preserved Lemon or Limequat, seeds removed Champagne
    vinegar, white wine vinegar, or lemon juice, as needed

    I wonder how different this recipe would be if you subbed
    the preserved lemon with lemon zest (maybe half as much) and
    some salt. Not much, I suspect.

    --
    Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot)
    com

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