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Prepare the way for the LORD...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD · 2006-05-01T08:44:00+00:00

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message news:[email hidden]... (...) > Would suggest you ask your doctor to supervise your use of the diabetic > 2PD-OMER Approach to help you lose the weight permanently. Bad suggestion. Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Jeff's opinion is meaningless only to those who are not with the Lord and who would deny the obvious meaning. Dr. Jeff Utz's opinion is meaningless for multiple additional reasons: (1) It is well-documented within the Google archives that Dr. Utz has admitted difficulties with losing weight and yet refuses to try the 2PD-OMER Approach first-hand despite his difficulties. (2) It is also well-documented within the Google archives that his area of expertise as a physician is in the area of pediatics where the weight control issues are different from those in adults. The 2PD-OMER Approach has applicability in adults but **not** children. (3) Moreover, it is also well-documented within the Google archives that Dr. Utz has difficulty understanding that the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet despite multiple attempts to help him with this conceptual "faux pas." However to reassure your potential customers The 2PD-OMER Approach is not for sale, thus there are no customers. It remains a public service offering freely accessible via the Internet since 1998 which has allowed the gathering of information on more than 625,550 people who have had more than 5 years of experience with sustained weight loss using this approach. that the 2PD-OMER plan has been peer-reviewed It has. It is also published in print medium in addition to the Internet. rather than having only been spammed to various online bulletin boards It has not been spammed to various online bulletin boards. it would be a good idea to post the link to the peer review findings. This matter has been discussed in the past and those discussions remain in the Google archives. As for reposting those discussion or links, it would risk further accusations of spamming. Sorry. Please forgive all my iniquities. That's right, brace yourself! It remains my choice to continue glorifying GOD by being steadfast and unassailable with HIS help. I'm actually inviting Andrew to post relevant content to the appropriate newsgroups. You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by waving his hands at an imaginary audience. Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' invincible, infinitely powerful, and most holy name. "My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon seeing the risen Jesus Christ. "I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right. Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev. 6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD willing: http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how the LORD has reshaped me: http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo Prayerfully in Christ's love, Andrew http://tinyurl.com/zlaml

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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1 May 2006, 08:44 UTC #1

Muty said:
Andrew B. Chung said:
Jeff said:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
(...)
> Would suggest you ask your doctor to supervise your use of the diabetic
> 2PD-OMER Approach to help you lose the weight permanently.
Bad suggestion.
Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Jeff's opinion is meaningless only to those who are not with the Lord
and who would deny the obvious meaning.
Dr. Jeff Utz's opinion is meaningless for multiple additional reasons:
(1) It is well-documented within the Google archives that Dr. Utz has
admitted difficulties with losing weight and yet refuses to try the
2PD-OMER Approach first-hand despite his difficulties.
(2) It is also well-documented within the Google archives that his area
of expertise as a physician is in the area of pediatics where the weight
control issues are different from those in adults. The 2PD-OMER
Approach has applicability in adults but **not** children.
(3) Moreover, it is also well-documented within the Google archives that
Dr. Utz has difficulty understanding that the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a
diet despite multiple attempts to help him with this conceptual "faux
pas."
Quoted message said:
However to reassure your potential customers
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not for sale, thus there are no customers.
It remains a public service offering freely accessible via the Internet
since 1998 which has allowed the gathering of information on more than
625,550 people who have had more than 5 years of experience with
sustained weight loss using this approach.
Quoted message said:
that the 2PD-OMER plan has been peer-reviewed
It has. It is also published in print medium in addition to the
Internet.
Quoted message said:
rather than having only been spammed to various online bulletin boards
It has not been spammed to various online bulletin boards.
Quoted message said:
it would be a good idea to post the link to the peer review findings.
This matter has been discussed in the past and those discussions remain
in the Google archives. As for reposting those discussion or links, it
would risk further accusations of spamming. Sorry. Please forgive all
my iniquities.
Quoted message said:
That's right, brace yourself!
It remains my choice to continue glorifying GOD by being steadfast and
unassailable with HIS help.
Quoted message said:
I'm actually inviting Andrew to post relevant content to the appropriate newsgroups.
You remind me of the blind man who would feign vision by waving his
hands at an imaginary audience.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' invincible,
infinitely powerful, and most holy name.
"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml

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Muty
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1 May 2006, 09:29 UTC #2

Andrew B. Chung said:
It has not been spammed to various online bulletin boards.

Googling PD-OMER indicates otherwise
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Quoted message said:
it would be a good idea to post the link to the peer review findings.
This matter has been discussed in the past and those discussions remain
in the Google archives.

Bottom line: no peer review exists..
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how
Andrew has reshaped it:
Muty
On 28th April 2006 in Message-ID: <[email hidden]>
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
burped the following into alt.christnet.christianlife:
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+The use of a killfile is a sin because of ones thoughts.+
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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1 May 2006, 11:44 UTC #3

Muty said:
Andrew B. Chung said:
It has not been spammed to various online bulletin boards.
Quoted message said:
Googling PD-OMER indicates otherwise
No it doesn't.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
it would be a good idea to post the link to the peer review findings.
This matter has been discussed in the past and those discussions remain
in the Google archives.
Bottom line: no peer review exists..
No. This approach has been peer-reviewed.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' invincible,
infinitely powerful, and most holy name.
"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml

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Muty
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1 May 2006, 13:38 UTC #4

Andrew B. Chung said:
Muty said:
Andrew B. Chung said:
It has not been spammed to various online bulletin boards.
Quoted message said:
Googling PD-OMER indicates otherwise
No it doesn't.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> it would be a good idea to post the link to the peer review findings.
This matter has been discussed in the past and those discussions remain
in the Google archives.
Bottom line: no peer review exists..
No. This approach has been peer-reviewed.

In that case you'll have no trouble giving specific information about
where an interested party could read the result of the peer review.
Where is the peer review ?
Muty

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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1 May 2006, 16:19 UTC #5

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Could this be the diet that Tom Cruise and Kirk Cameron follow????
The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet. That being said, it is possible
that they are using this eating approach because there are far more
using the 2PD-OMER Approach than is publicized. My estimate that every
lean/trim/active/healthy person you see in Hollywood is using the
2PD-OMER Approach. It is far easier to keep this method secret than
dieting where one has to put in special requests for diet meal plans.
The weighing of meals can be done privately with digital food scales
that are now quite slim and discrete (there are even fancier ones that
roll up to fit in purses easily). Many Hollywood restaurants are now
printing weights of their entree items on their menus.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml

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1 May 2006, 17:56 UTC #6

can't you leave this group alone it's already bad enough you got the
medical newgroups full of your [censored].

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DestinyintheDark
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1 May 2006, 18:08 UTC #7

Hope he brings some low cal snacks
D

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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2 May 2006, 07:10 UTC #8

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can't you leave this group alone it's already bad enough you got the
medical newgroups full of your [censored].
Sorry this bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my iniquities.
Will be praying for you, dear neighbor whom I love in Jesus' most
precious and holy name.
"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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2 May 2006, 07:10 UTC #9

DestinyintheDark said:

Hope he brings some low cal snacks
"Man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the
mouth of GOD." -- LORD Jesus Christ
"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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2 May 2006, 07:11 UTC #10

Don Kirkman said:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <[email hidden]>:
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Muty said:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:[email hidden]...
> > (...)
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> > > Would suggest you ask your doctor to supervise your use of the diabetic
> > > 2PD-OMER Approach to help you lose the weight permanently.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> > Bad suggestion.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Jeff's opinion is meaningless only to those who are not with the Lord
and who would deny the obvious meaning.
Quoted message said:
Dr. Jeff Utz's opinion is meaningless for multiple additional reasons:
Quoted message said:
(2) It is also well-documented within the Google archives that his area
of expertise as a physician is in the area of pediatics where the weight
control issues are different from those in adults. The 2PD-OMER
Approach has applicability in adults but **not** children.
You're adding your own ideas to the Bible again.
No.
Quoted message said:
The passages about
manna, on which you base the 2PoundDiet,
Actually, the inspiration for the 2PD-OMER Approach did not arise from
the Biblical passages about manna.
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does not say to take an omer a
day only for adults; it makes no distinction.
Correct.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
(3) Moreover, it is also well-documented within the Google archives that
Dr. Utz has difficulty understanding that the 2PD-OMER Approach is not a
diet despite multiple attempts to help him with this conceptual "faux
pas."
And despite the fact that for several years the **author** of the thing
***called*** it a diet.
It has been an approach from the outset regardless of how folks want to
reference it.
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:-) LOL WLIASOD
WLISD
Still praying for you, dear Don whom I love in Jesus' most exalted and
most holy name.
"My LORD **and** my GOD!" -- Archetypal Atheist "Doubting" Thomas upon
seeing the risen Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " -- LORD Jesus Christ
In truth, I most assuredly know the LORD to be kind, just and right.
Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the Lamb's opening of the 6th seal (Rev.
6:12), cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread
here during the next on-line chat(05/04/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST, LORD
willing:
http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
Prayerfully in Christ's love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/zlaml

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