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  1. timesonline.co.ukarticle2204200.ece

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    Hein Verbruggen, when he was president of the UCI, before the Festina Affair,” Pound said. “I was saying, ‘Hein, you have got a real problem in your sport and you don’t seem able to deal with it.’ He said, ‘Well, listen – if people don’t mind the Tour de France at 25 kilometres per hour, the riders don’t have to prepare – but if they want it at 42 kilometres per hour, then I’m sorry, the riders can’t do it without preparation,’ as he called it.”

  2. poulidor said:

    timesonline.co.ukarticle2204200.ece

    Pound in truth speaking shocker! This is the point that a lot of people have been making on this forum for ages now - that under the old stewardship the UCI wanted a clean sport, with clean meaning that riders didn't test positive. Ultra fast Tours made for exciting TV and increased profits. It is hardly surprising that so many riders/organisers mistrust the UCI now. They all know that for years doping was ignored and almost encouraged. It's therefore no wonder that riders like Landis and Vino appeal when they are tested positive. They have ridden for years in a culture where doping was the norm, where the UCI accepted it, and suddenly they are held up as cheats. What about the last five/ten years of my career, of all the riders' careers? They ask. Why are we cheats now when we weren't cheats five years ago? Landis wonders why he wins the Tour then gets labelled a cheat yet his ex-boss won 7 Tours and was never once officially labelled a cheat.

    If this apparent paradigm shift that Clerc (and any cycling fan who prefers racing over doping) wants is genuine then Pat McQuaid needs to prove he is 100 percent serious. He needs to come down hard on everyone involved, doctors, team directors as well as riders. He also needs to catch all cheats and not just those of the old guard like Vino and Ulle. We don;t all believe in the new whiter than white jersey generation, especially when that white jersey rides on the shoulders of a former Saiz, now Brunyeel rider.

  3. I have to agree with Pound on all points given....... I guess Pat's going to go on holiday again ?
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    Verbruggen, now president of the Coordination Commission of the Beijing Olympic Games, was replaced as UCI president by Pat McQuaid in 2005. But Pound said that he never felt confident that Verbruggen, who was UCI president for 14 years, was prepared to “rock the boat” against cycling’s culture of doping.

    Pound believes that Verbruggen’s skills were not right for the problems that cycling faced. “I don’t know what the UCI’s marketing objectives were, although I think that you could probably do some research and find that Verbruggen’s forte as a professional was in marketing.

    “Doping is cheating and for the most part it’s organised cheating. You have to confront it. It is ethically wrong, fraudulent and causes misery for athletes and their families.”

    While Pound has proposed a crisis meeting hosted by Wada over cycling’s doping problems, Patrice Clerc, the president of the Tour, and Christian Prudhomme, the director of the Tour, have demanded the resignation of McQuaid, whom they claim is little more than a stooge.

    Pound, however, is willing to work with the Irishman. “I’m waiting to see if [McQuaid] will be able to distance himself from Verbruggen,” he said. “I hope we can work together and leave Verbruggen to deal with what happened on his watch.”

    Clerc and Prudhomme have scorned McQuaid’s presidency and instead accused Verbruggen of manipulating events on this year’s Tour. “It’s time to stop pretending that it’s not Verbruggen who’s pulling the strings,” Clerc said.

    However, Pound is urging McQuaid to create “a paradigm shift”. “Up until now, the fight against doping has been pretty limited,” Pound said. “Now, with public authorities able to go in and seize evidence and question witnesses, it gives us a much broader ability to get the enablers, suppliers and the medical practitioners who are assisting in all this. It gives us a much more vigorous arsenal of weapons.

    “There are sociopaths out there. That’s why we have a police force. That’s why we have security checks at airports. That’s an unfortunate fact of life. We’re now paying the price for the sports authorities letting this get out of control and closing their eyes to it.”

  4. Rolfrae said:

    Pound in truth speaking shocker! This is the point that a lot of people have been making on this forum for ages now - that under the old stewardship the UCI wanted a clean sport, with clean meaning that riders didn't test positive. Ultra fast Tours made for exciting TV and increased profits. It is hardly surprising that so many riders/organisers mistrust the UCI now. They all know that for years doping was ignored and almost encouraged. It's therefore no wonder that riders like Landis and Vino appeal when they are tested positive. They have ridden for years in a culture where doping was the norm, where the UCI accepted it, and suddenly they are held up as cheats. What about the last five/ten years of my career, of all the riders' careers? They ask. Why are we cheats now when we weren't cheats five years ago? Landis wonders why he wins the Tour then gets labelled a cheat yet his ex-boss won 7 Tours and was never once officially labelled a cheat.

    If this apparent paradigm shift that Clerc (and any cycling fan who prefers racing over doping) wants is genuine then Pat McQuaid needs to prove he is 100 percent serious. He needs to come down hard on everyone involved, doctors, team directors as well as riders. He also needs to catch all cheats and not just those of the old guard like Vino and Ulle. We don;t all believe in the new whiter than white jersey generation, especially when that white jersey rides on the shoulders of a former Saiz, now Brunyeel rider.


    Perhaps Landis and Vino et.al. should just say that then, instead of making ridiculous, bogus defenses that just make the riders look like lying creeps.

  5. Pound did nothing to end the corruption at the IOC when he was in a position to benefit from it (lots of travel and other perks, no to mention the cash payments some IOC members were getting).

    Now, he is the crusader trying to clean up cycling. Let's see if he brings the same level of commitment to the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, FIFA, etc.

    How much doping takes place at the Olympics? How many positive tests amongst thousands and thousands of athletes? Who is the direct beneficiary given his talk about marketing strategies at the UCI.

  6. Serafino said:

    Pound did nothing to end the corruption at the IOC when he was in a position to benefit from it (lots of travel and other perks, no to mention the cash payments some IOC members were getting).

    Now, he is the crusader trying to clean up cycling. Let's see if he brings the same level of commitment to the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, FIFA, etc.

    How much doping takes place at the Olympics? How many positive tests amongst thousands and thousands of athletes? Who is the direct beneficiary given his talk about marketing strategies at the UCI.

    I don't think the big three American sports fall under the WADA umbrella.

  7. Rolfrae said:

    We don;t all believe in the new whiter than white jersey generation, especially when that white jersey rides on the shoulders of a former Saiz, now Brunyeel rider.


    Absolutely!!!

  8. nns1400 said:

    Perhaps Landis and Vino et.al. should just say that then, instead of making ridiculous, bogus defenses that just make the riders look like lying creeps.


    Who says Vino won't....

  9. cyclingheroes said:

    Who says Vino won't....


    well, if anyone were to do that, vino certainly has the disposition to do so.

  10. Klodifan said:

    well, if anyone were to do that, vino certainly has the disposition to do so.


    They are not rid of him yet. Vino is angry, very angry. I am pretty sure he will drop a few bombs as soon as he knows he will not win his case in court.

  11. helmutRoole2 said:

    I don't think the big three American sports fall under the WADA umbrella.

    That hasn't stopped Pound from going after sports before, especially in his native Canada (NHL, CFL, etc.). He picks and chooses his targets.

    How outspoken was he on doping when it could tarnish his work at the IOC (he's the one who negotiated all of the multi-billion dollar sponsorship contracts, etc.

    I seem to recall he only found religion after losing out to Jacques Rogge in the IOC elections for president.

  12. cyclingheroes said:

    They are not rid of him yet. Vino is angry, very angry. I am pretty sure he will drop a few bombs as soon as he knows he will not win his case in court.

    Will he wait that long? That's got to be almost a year away.

    CH, what's up with Jan? Any news?

  13. Serafino said:

    That hasn't stopped Pound from going after sports before, especially in his native Canada (NHL, CFL, etc.). He picks and chooses his targets.

    How outspoken was he on doping when it could tarnish his work at the IOC (he's the one who negotiated all of the multi-billion dollar sponsorship contracts, etc.

    I seem to recall he only found religion after losing out to Jacques Rogge in the IOC elections for president.

    Absolutely right on all points. Pound is an opportunist and as fraudulent and self-serving as all the IOC committee members.

  14. Tech72 said:

    Absolutely right on all points. Pound is an opportunist and as fraudulent and self-serving as all the IOC committee members.

    No kidding. Puerto brewed up right under his nose, with nary a word from him. A quarter of the pro peloton going to the same doctor, and he ignored it. He had to have known something, given the sheer volume. Even Walsh knew about the blood doping, and failed to pursue it, probably for the same reason - both are obsessed with bringing Armstrong down.

  15. cyclingheroes said:

    They are not rid of him yet. Vino is angry, very angry. I am pretty sure he will drop a few bombs as soon as he knows he will not win his case in court.


    The hero of Kazahkstan? That the whole country has now tied itself to saying he didn't dope. I doubt it.

  16. Serafino said:

    Will he wait that long? That's got to be almost a year away.

    CH, what's up with Jan? Any news?


    I don't know if he will wait that long, but he will drop a few bombs AT THE LATEST after the court case...

    Jan is doing fine ;-)))

  17. nns1400 said:

    The hero of Kazahkstan? That the whole country has now tied itself to saying he didn't dope. I doubt it.


    We'll see.

  18. Serafino said:

    That hasn't stopped Pound from going after sports before, especially in his native Canada (NHL, CFL, etc.). He picks and chooses his targets.

    How outspoken was he on doping when it could tarnish his work at the IOC (he's the one who negotiated all of the multi-billion dollar sponsorship contracts, etc.

    I seem to recall he only found religion after losing out to Jacques Rogge in the IOC elections for president.

    Hey, at least Pound has religion. I don't really care when he got it. The point is he is trying to do the right thing.

    Also, Pound will have zero influence over MLB, NFL or the NBA.

  19. cyclingheroes said:

    I don't know if he will wait that long, but he will drop a few bombs AT THE LATEST after the court case...

    Jan is doing fine ;-)))


    Don't tease us like this.

  20. nns1400 said:

    The hero of Kazahkstan? That the whole country has now tied itself to saying he didn't dope. I doubt it.


    Good point. After the whole country has rallied behind him and embraced his "I didn't dope" storyline, it will be very difficult for him to change the story now. Of course, he could acknowledge doping but delfect blame from himself by offering up some lame excuse: "I didn't realize the doctors on the team were doping me up with this stuff. I thought it was vitamins, etc., etc."

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