potluck etiquette--- please help!!!



On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:22:46 -0800, Terry Pulliam Burd
<[email protected]> wrote:

><snort!> "intimates"? I think you mean "intimidates."

Sometime Agent's first choice spell checking isn't the right one. I suppose I should be glad it
didn't suggest inmates. <G>
>
>Cheap shot, and I'm sorry - but it's been a long day.

Not cheap. I deserved it.

Gar
 
Julia Altshuler <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<joHIb.706910$Tr4.1785408@attbi_s03>...
> All these stories are so good. Would you consider checking out www.etiquettehell.com and making a
> contribution? I don't know anything about the person who runs the site.

Google her. You will get an eyefull.

> I've just enjoyed it and think your niece and The Ranger's relative would fit in nicely.
>
> When I was working in health food, I learned a lot about eating disorders. There's no doubt in my
> mind that these women are mentally ill, but I still get a freakshow type enjoyment from reading
> the stories where one is more outrageous than the next.
>
> Bringing this back to etiquette. I wonder if one could invite the other nieces and nephews without
> inviting the one who eats everything that's set out and rifles through the cupboards for more. If
> you (meaning everyone in general) had a relative who was in a serious alcoholic, even if he
> weren't in a treatment program, it might be good manners not to invite him to a gathering where
> alcohol was going to be served. The explanation for not inviting (before or after the fact) might
> be a simple "We were serving alcohol, and I know you have trouble with that." The alcoholic would
> likely be angry, but there wouldn't be much he could do about the honest answer, and the other
> relatives would understand.
>
> Thus with the problem eaters. Don't invite them to buffets. If anyone asks, explain "my neice has
> trouble with food." Say it with compassion and no sarcasm. Don't argue; don't explain, but stick
> to your guns. Everyone who has met your niece will understand. Your niece won't, but there won't
> be anything much she can do about it, and it might bring her a few steps closer to getting the
> help she needs.

How old is this niece? - I will have to re-read the post. IMO, it is never ok to exclude a child
when other children in the family are invited. But, I wouldn't exclude anyone, so I'm sort of biased
in this regard.

-L.
 
Dave Smith <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
Snip>

>That problem was solved this year by not inviting anyone. When she found out that no one >was
>having a family party she announced that she would have one, but it never happened. Another niece
>held a small party for her sister, brothers and us, >but the big niece was not invited.

Good god, Man, can't someone intervene? Grandma or her Mom or something? - This woman definitely has
a gorging disorder. This isn't about food - it is about something much more serious.

-L. (Feeling sick just reading about it...)
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:54:13 -0800, "The Ranger"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>* My description of what Doppelganger was doing, not Wife-hostess' words.

Thank's to you and Dave for two of the funniest stories I've read in some time.

Gar
 
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:41:35 GMT, Julia Altshuler
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>All these stories are so good. Would you consider checking out www.etiquettehell.com and making a
>contribution?

Pretty funny stuff on that site.

Gar
 
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:48:01 -0500, Nancy Young
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Gar wrote:
>
>> I'd be surprised if at least half of wedding attendees don't want to be there. The least you can
>> do is make them comfortable until you count your cash.
>
>(laugh) You mean, I'm not the only person who hates weddings?
>
>nancy

possibly the last wedding i went to was a backyard affair. they actually tapped the keg before the
ceremony (i was only an interested bystander), and the pastor who officiated had had an affair with
the bride.

a good time was had by me.

your pal, blake
 
David Wright <[email protected]> asked in message
news:[email protected] of Dave and I:
> >> SWMBO and Wife-hostess were visibly shaking and explaining, as agitated women are wont, with
> >> catty precision to Doppelganger that she needed to leave. <big snip>
> >>
> >LMAO...... there is only one difference between the big niece and your Doppelganger. The niece
> >would never be late. <big snip>
> >
> Is there any reason why you guys are posting this sick stuff here instead of dealing with it in
> some real way?

I "dealt" with it in the very manner I deal with most problem children -- adult or adolescent; head-
on and in a manner that will grab-and-hold the individual's attention while we focus on why they
aren't going to do something further damaging.

I didn't worry about long-term consequences of ever meeting her again nor did I care that
Doppelganger required a more professional level of help. She pinned a very dear set of friends into
a corner by misbehaving like a child that's never been told no. Her attitude of, "What're you going
to do about it?" compounded my resolve.

I will not abide boors or belligerence when I am present, be they family or associates. Should I be
faced with such, I will continue to act in a manner that drives the scoundrel from my presence. I
will not look away nor act like s/he is not a problem, nor feign shock nor find humor in deviant
behaviors. Those types of behaviors send too many wrong messages to a target.

You have a problem with how either situation was dealt with, not me, David. Perhaps someday you'll
understand that the world doesn't work in black-and-white and that not all solutions are pink
clouds and fluffy stuffing. Until that day, and I'll not hold my breath for enlightenment to tap
you across the forehead, you will continue to judge others without caring how you come through, and
for that I am glad.

The Ranger
--
"Everyone is subject to the laws of Darwinism whether or not they believe in them, agree with them,
or accept them. There is no trial, no jury, no argument, and no appeal."
-- Anonymous
 
-L. wrote:

> How old is this niece? - I will have to re-read the post. IMO, it is never ok to exclude a child
> when other children in the family are invited. But, I wouldn't exclude anyone, so I'm sort of
> biased in this regard.

I asked too. She's an adult and married.

--Lia
 
Gar wrote:

> >All these stories are so good. Would you consider checking out www.etiquettehell.com and making a
> >contribution?
>
> Pretty funny stuff on that site.

There is indeed some funny stuff on there. The weird thing is that we all know people like them.
There seems to be at least one in every crowd. In some cases they are people we work with or who are
connected to a circle of friends. In that case we usually have the option of dealing with them or
not, depending on how bad they are or how patient we are. It is a different matter when they are in
the family. Then you are pretty much stuck with them.
 
-L. wrote:
> Julia Altshuler <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<joHIb.706910$Tr4.1785408@attbi_s03>...
>
>>All these stories are so good. Would you consider checking out www.etiquettehell.com and making a
>>contribution? I don't know anything about the person who runs the site.
>
>
> Google her. You will get an eyeful.

All I know about the site is on the site itself. I don't even know the owner's name. Help with
googling, please.

--Lia
 
Julia Altshuler <[email protected]> asked in message
news:joHIb.706910$Tr4.1785408@attbi_s03... [snip]
> I wonder if one could invite the other nieces and nephews without inviting the one [snip]

Easily, and I have on numerous occasions, starting with my wedding reception.

It's very simple to state that So-And-So is persona non grata and then enforce that at the door.
It's my house, my party, my rules. I don't care if one or two family members find my directness
difficult to understand and exclusive in a mean way. I am not going to allow anyone free rein over
me. Ann Landers had a great quip, "The only people that can ride rough shod over you are the ones
you let do it."

The Ranger