Possible Biceps Tear

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the middle
of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing like
that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a lot
of pain and no bruising.

Damn John, you jealous of Hobman or something? How'd you do that?

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Quoted message said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the middle
of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing like
that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a lot
of pain and no bruising.

ALIEN IMPLANT! GO TO THE DOCTOR AND TAKE THAT THING OUT... NOW!!!

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:13:26 -0600, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the middle
of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing like
that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a lot
of pain and no bruising.

Damn John, you jealous of Hobman or something? How'd you do that?

I'm not sure. The only thing I can think of is the couple of sets of
dumbbell curls I did Saturday after doing my CG Bench/heavy triceps
workout.

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the

middle

Quoted message said:

of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing

like

Quoted message said:

that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a

lot

Quoted message said:

of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear. Go see the doctor. Don't lift anything
heavy with that arm 'til then. Take two aspirin. Be kind to your
neighbors. Remember the Alamo.

HTH.

David

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the middle
of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing like
that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a lot
of pain and no bruising.

It's a tumour.

--
Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the

middle

Quoted message said:

of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing

like

Quoted message said:

that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a

lot

Quoted message said:

of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear.

Without any pain?

Quoted message said:

Go see the doctor. Don't lift anything
heavy with that arm 'til then. Take two aspirin. Be kind to your
neighbors. Remember the Alamo.

HTH.

David

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:13:26 -0600, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the middle
of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing like
that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a lot
of pain and no bruising.

Damn John, you jealous of Hobman or something? How'd you do that?

I'm not sure. The only thing I can think of is the couple of sets of
dumbbell curls I did Saturday after doing my CG Bench/heavy triceps
workout.

I would take David's advice and see a doc, but I would be amazed you
could tear a bicep enough to actually feel the lump with no pain at all.

Quoted message said:

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the

middle

Quoted message said:

of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing

like

Quoted message said:

that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a

lot

Quoted message said:

of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear.

Without any pain?

John did say "not a lot of pain", so, I suppose he has some. You're right,
in that one would expect significant pain from a muscle tear, but, if it's
very partial, just enough to cause the contractions resulting in the
"chords", combined with John's baseline pain relief blood levels, maybe.
Dunno'. Most any competant MD could diagnosis it with a simple exam.

David

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"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

John Hanson wrote:
> I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like
> two
> large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the
middle
> of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing
like
> that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a
lot
> of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear.

Without any pain?

John did say "not a lot of pain", so, I suppose he has some. You're
right, in that one would expect significant pain from a muscle tear,
but, if it's very partial, just enough to cause the contractions
resulting in the "chords", combined with John's baseline pain relief
blood levels, maybe. Dunno'. Most any competant MD could diagnosis it
with a simple exam.

Assuming your diagnosis is correct, what you expect the MD to do or
suggest John do? I'll hazard a guess that, for a partial tear like
this, you do nothing except let it heal on its own, but I'm curious to
know if, e.g., taking x-rays/ct scan/mri of it and/or surgery is
warranted to be sure it heals properly.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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David

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John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the middle
of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing like
that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a lot
of pain and no bruising.

It's a tumour.

We spell that "tooma" here on mfw, didn'cha know?

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com

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--
Helgi Briem hbriem AT simnet DOT is

David Cohen said:

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like

two

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the

middle

Quoted message said:

of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing

like

Quoted message said:

that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a

lot

Quoted message said:

of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear. Go see the doctor. Don't lift anything
heavy with that arm 'til then. Take two aspirin. Be kind to your
neighbors. Remember the Alamo.

HTH.

I went to the doc. It is a partial tear. He told me not to do curls
unless I'm in a power cage. Okay, he said not to do curls for a couple
of weeks and then start with the little dumbbells. No tendons
tore...just the muscle itself.

David Cohen said:

"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

John Hanson wrote:
> I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels

like two

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> large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the
middle
> of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps

tearing

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like
> that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not

a

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lot
> of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear.

Without any pain?

John did say "not a lot of pain", so, I suppose he has some. You're

right,

Quoted message said:

in that one would expect significant pain from a muscle tear, but, if

it's

Quoted message said:

very partial, just enough to cause the contractions resulting in the
"chords", combined with John's baseline pain relief blood levels,

maybe.

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Dunno'. Most any competant MD could diagnosis it with a simple exam.

Unfortunately, my pain relief blood levels have been nonexistant
lately. I'm trying to lose some fat. I weighed in at the doctors
office today at 221 with shoes, pants and shirt on as well as all of
the accessories (wallet, phone, etc.). I'm wasting away to nothing.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:34:08 -0500, Will Brink
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In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:13:26 -0600, Proton Soup <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:00:26 -0600, John Hanson
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
>large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the middle
>of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing like
>that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a lot
>of pain and no bruising.

Damn John, you jealous of Hobman or something? How'd you do that?

I'm not sure. The only thing I can think of is the couple of sets of
dumbbell curls I did Saturday after doing my CG Bench/heavy triceps
workout.

I would take David's advice and see a doc, but I would be amazed you
could tear a bicep enough to actually feel the lump with no pain at all.

I wouldn't say no pain but there certainly isn't much. As a matter of
fact, there is none with the arm resting comfortable at my side.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:45:52 -0500, "Steve Freides"
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

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"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Will Brink" <[email hidden]> wrote

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"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> John Hanson wrote:
> > I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like
> > two
> > large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the
> middle
> > of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing
> like
> > that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a
> lot
> > of pain and no bruising.
>
> Sounds like a partial tear.

Without any pain?

John did say "not a lot of pain", so, I suppose he has some. You're
right, in that one would expect significant pain from a muscle tear,
but, if it's very partial, just enough to cause the contractions
resulting in the "chords", combined with John's baseline pain relief
blood levels, maybe. Dunno'. Most any competant MD could diagnosis it
with a simple exam.

Assuming your diagnosis is correct, what you expect the MD to do or
suggest John do? I'll hazard a guess that, for a partial tear like
this, you do nothing except let it heal on its own, but I'm curious to
know if, e.g., taking x-rays/ct scan/mri of it and/or surgery is
warranted to be sure it heals properly.

I was told to not use the biceps for a couple of weeks and then start
rehabbing it. He also said that if I did start working the muscle
before it heals, there is a good chance that it will tear more and
then I may need to go in and have some surgery done to it.

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David Cohen said:

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like

two

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the

middle

Quoted message said:

of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing

like

Quoted message said:

that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a

lot

Quoted message said:

of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear. Go see the doctor. Don't lift anything
heavy with that arm 'til then. Take two aspirin. Be kind to your
neighbors. Remember the Alamo.

HTH.

I went to the doc. It is a partial tear. He told me not to do curls
unless I'm in a power cage. Okay, he said not to do curls for a couple
of weeks and then start with the little dumbbells.

PINK VINYL! PINK VINYL!!

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No tendons
tore...just the muscle itself.

The Cyber Diagnostic Force is strong with me today.

David

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:32:27 -0500, Will Brink
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In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

John Hanson said:

I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like two
large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the

middle

Quoted message said:

of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing

like

Quoted message said:

that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a

lot

Quoted message said:

of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear.

Without any pain?

When Shawn Cain tore his last biceps
(http://www.northernlinks.com/yohan/videos/nationals.mpg this clip
doesn't work for everyone. Watch his right biceps roll up into his
sleeve), he said he felt it go but not really any pain. He also found
out he has an extra attachment for his biceps that the rest of us
mortals don't have but that is another story.

"Usenet Posting" <[email hidden]> wrote

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David Cohen said:

John Hanson wrote:
> I have two lumps on the outside edge of my biceps that feels like

two

Quoted message said:

> large chords running over the top of it lengthwise right in the
middle
> of the belly of the muscle. Anyone ever hear of a biceps tearing
like
> that? It feels like there is something foreign in there but not a
lot
> of pain and no bruising.

Sounds like a partial tear. Go see the doctor. Don't lift anything
heavy with that arm 'til then. Take two aspirin. Be kind to your
neighbors. Remember the Alamo.

HTH.

I went to the doc. It is a partial tear. He told me not to do curls
unless I'm in a power cage. Okay, he said not to do curls for a couple
of weeks and then start with the little dumbbells. No tendons
tore...just the muscle itself.

I believe that would qualify as a "good thing" as the muscle ought to
heal a lot faster than a tendon tear.

Indeed, as torn tendons don't heal at all. One of the reasons orthopedic
surgeons drive really nice cars and live in really nice houses.

And they are worth every damn cent!

David