Positive for probenecid?

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Thank God that Pedro Delgado thought of this back when he probably had
a bad case of Gout.

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Thank God that Pedro Delgado thought of this back when he probably had
a bad case of Gout.

That crappy, unrefrigerated Tour food did it to him. No ice to relieve the
swelling in his feet so he had to resort to Probenecid.

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"]Thank God that Pedro Delgado thought of this back when he probably had
a bad case of Gout.

He was on guard against bird flu before being on guard against bird flu was cool.

Pedro Delgado - Innovator, Bike Racer, Champion.

-Cosmo
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How do you figure? That drug is not going to help his feet! For an
athlete, it assists recovery the same way it assists the feet of those
with (and anly the feet of those with) gout. It reduces uric acid
levels in the blood. That is what the forgotten "Eat to Win" author
claimed in his first book (late 70s?) titled as above and in follow up
books like "Eat to Succeed" a few years later. He has been forgotten
because in the first book he used Navratilova as his claim to fame (or
effectiveness). By the time his second book came out Navratilova dumped
him and instead of handling it with discretion he took a few pot shots
at her and started bragging about Cher and other pop culture
endorsements of his methods and new line of supplements. I have not
read or even seen that first book for over 20 years but I think it
still has some excellent dietary advice for athletes both with access
to all of the ideal foods and those on the road and forced to
compromise. I remember his advice about potatoe bars (that everyone
knows by now) but there are also good tips about getting the ideal
athlete's recovery meals at each major fast food restaurant.

Back on topic, his section on legal medical performance optimizers is
way out of date because I think most if not all of the drugs he
advocated are now banned. Delgado was caught with it roughly 10 years
after the book was published in the US (and it isn't like this author
was the one to discover the concept) so Delgado was only clever in
finding one of the last drugs not banned by the UCI (though we all know
it was banned by tht IOC at that time) to give significant help (not
day to day I don't think, but I would imagine using it over the long
term would help some athletes a little bit in training volume they can
handle).

There is a question I have always wanted to ask but I am sort of sick
of drug threads. I would like to hear opinions on an athlete (say a
cyclist) that take up recreational or fitness cycling and gets drugs
from a smart but slightly corrupt MD (though in Europe I do not think
it would be frowned upon in some cases as long as it could be argued to
optimize health). He rides this way for a few years and then decides to
compete. He gets his license and checks the list of banned drugs and
then complies. He did gain some advantage in his training during those
previous years of ramping up.

Is this ethical? Is it illegal as you understand the rules? In the past
(many years ago, call it before the summer of '98) I would have said
"No harm no foul". I now get the impression that some cyclists and
officials want to apply the list of banned drugs retroactively! There
are those that claim it is unfair to have allowed Armstrong to have
used EPO during his cancer treatment. How far back should it go? I
think active cyclists (current license) should respect the lists of
banned substances and methods. It used to be thought (before blood
doping) that as long as you test clear on race day then you are in
compliance.

What say you?

PS - the "bird flu" has been around for as long (nearly) as birds.
Also, the 1918 pandemic was confirmed to be "bird flu".

Chris M said:

so Delgado was only clever in
finding one of the last drugs not banned by the UCI (though we all know
it was banned by tht IOC at that time) to give significant help (not
day to day I don't think, but I would imagine using it over the long
term would help some athletes a little bit in training volume they can
handle).

dumbass,

it's function is a masking agent. it prevents you from peeing steroids,
so you can pass drug tests. Garzelli had some problmes with it too.

it's like steroid users using clomid, it's not a performance enchancer
on it's own, but it counteracts a side effect.

probenacid counteracts the side effect of testing positive.

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There
are those that claim it is unfair to have allowed Armstrong to have
used EPO during his cancer treatment.

Who ? That's a strawman, no one is arguing that.