pomegranate martini!

On Mon 28 Nov 2005 06:58:13p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Myraide?

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over about a cup of ice in martini shaker:

four oz of prime citrus vodka, like absolut or grey goose
one to two oz cointreau
*POM* pomegranate juice, to fill shaker

makes two martinis, pour into chilled martini glasses and add:

squeeze of lime or lemon
pomegranate fruit for bottom of glass (optional decor)

this is the best martini i have ever had! myraide

Interesting drink. NOT a martini.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

"Myraide" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

over about a cup of ice in martini shaker:

four oz of prime citrus vodka, like absolut or grey goose
one to two oz cointreau
*POM* pomegranate juice, to fill shaker

makes two martinis, pour into chilled martini glasses and add:

squeeze of lime or lemon
pomegranate fruit for bottom of glass (optional decor)

this is the best martini i have ever had! myraide

No matter how good, this is NOT A MARTINI! Putting some weird concoction in
a martini glass does not make it a martini. A martini is gin and vermouth.

--
Peter Aitken

Peter Aitken said:

"Myraide" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

over about a cup of ice in martini shaker:

four oz of prime citrus vodka, like absolut or grey goose
one to two oz cointreau
*POM* pomegranate juice, to fill shaker

makes two martinis, pour into chilled martini glasses and add:

squeeze of lime or lemon
pomegranate fruit for bottom of glass (optional decor)

this is the best martini i have ever had! myraide

No matter how good, this is NOT A MARTINI! Putting some weird concoction in
a martini glass does not make it a martini. A martini is gin and vermouth.

uh oh....... i better ask oprah and rachel ray about this, then......
🙂 myraide

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--
Peter Aitken

On Mon 28 Nov 2005 07:36:20p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Myraide?

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Peter Aitken said:

"Myraide" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

over about a cup of ice in martini shaker:

four oz of prime citrus vodka, like absolut or grey goose
one to two oz cointreau
*POM* pomegranate juice, to fill shaker

makes two martinis, pour into chilled martini glasses and add:

squeeze of lime or lemon
pomegranate fruit for bottom of glass (optional decor)

this is the best martini i have ever had! myraide

No matter how good, this is NOT A MARTINI! Putting some weird
concoction in a martini glass does not make it a martini. A martini is
gin and vermouth.

uh oh....... i better ask oprah and rachel ray about this, then......
🙂 myraide

Well, someone needs to set them straight. It might as well be you. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Mon 28 Nov 2005 07:36:20p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Myraide?

Quoted message said:

Peter Aitken said:

"Myraide" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> over about a cup of ice in martini shaker:
>
> four oz of prime citrus vodka, like absolut or grey goose
> one to two oz cointreau
> *POM* pomegranate juice, to fill shaker
>
> makes two martinis, pour into chilled martini glasses and add:
>
> squeeze of lime or lemon
> pomegranate fruit for bottom of glass (optional decor)
>
> this is the best martini i have ever had! myraide
>

No matter how good, this is NOT A MARTINI! Putting some weird
concoction in a martini glass does not make it a martini. A martini is
gin and vermouth.

uh oh....... i better ask oprah and rachel ray about this, then......
🙂 myraide

Well, someone needs to set them straight. It might as well be you. :-)

what would this drink be called then? i mean there are all different
kinds of wine, why can't there be different kinds of martinis? myraide

Quoted message said:

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

Peter Aitken said:

"Myraide" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

over about a cup of ice in martini shaker:

four oz of prime citrus vodka, like absolut or grey goose
one to two oz cointreau
*POM* pomegranate juice, to fill shaker

makes two martinis, pour into chilled martini glasses and add:

squeeze of lime or lemon
pomegranate fruit for bottom of glass (optional decor)

this is the best martini i have ever had! myraide

No matter how good, this is NOT A MARTINI! Putting some weird
concoction in a martini glass does not make it a martini. A martini
is gin and vermouth.

Exactly. Some people think vodka rather than gin with is marginally
acceptable... I'm not one of them.

Jill

Myraide said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Mon 28 Nov 2005 07:36:20p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
Myraide?

Quoted message said:

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Myraide" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>> over about a cup of ice in martini shaker:
>>
>> four oz of prime citrus vodka, like absolut or grey goose
>> one to two oz cointreau
>> *POM* pomegranate juice, to fill shaker
>>
>> makes two martinis, pour into chilled martini glasses and add:
>>
>> squeeze of lime or lemon
>> pomegranate fruit for bottom of glass (optional decor)
>>
>> this is the best martini i have ever had! myraide
>>
>
> No matter how good, this is NOT A MARTINI! Putting some weird
> concoction in a martini glass does not make it a martini. A
> martini is gin and vermouth.

uh oh....... i better ask oprah and rachel ray about this,
then...... 🙂 myraide

Well, someone needs to set them straight. It might as well be you.
:-)

what would this drink be called then? i mean there are all different
kinds of wine, why can't there be different kinds of martinis? myraide

There are different kinds of wine because there are different grape
varieties made into wine. This "martini" is part of the "new millenium
yuppie" syndrome. Think Appletini's. Adding fruit juice to vodka does not
a martini make, I don't care what Oprah and Rachel Ray say. I like vodka
and cranberry juice; it doesn't make it a cranberry martini.

Jill
Jill

A Pomegranate cocktail would be my best guess without coming up with a
quirky name for it. What's often served as a "chocolate martini" was
until rather recently called a "chocolate shot" while a "sour apple
martini" was an "apple", "sour apple" or "apple jolly rancher" shot, I
imagine there are others but I'm not entirely up on the "martini"
menus. The glass something is served in doesn't define what it is. In
the heyday of cocktail culture what we now call a martini glass was
typically called a cocktail glass.

Jessica

Still miffed about the bartender who asked what kind of vodka I wanted
in my Beefeater gimlet.

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Peter Aitken said:

No matter how good, this is NOT A MARTINI! Putting some weird concoction in
a martini glass does not make it a martini. A martini is gin and vermouth.

In some places-- lots of bars in the UK-- ordering a "martini" will get
you a glass of vermouth, period.

I like the name "fauxtini" for those vodka drinks. Pomegranate really
is a spectacular cocktail mixer. I like to mix some with champagne (I
use Knudsen's concentrate rather than Pom for better color with less
dilution) and add a few fresh pomegranate seeds for a garnish. Also
same but with ginger ale for a nonalcoholic alternative.

On Mon 28 Nov 2005 08:13:04p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Myraide?

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Mon 28 Nov 2005 07:36:20p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Myraide?

Quoted message said:

Peter Aitken wrote:
> "Myraide" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > over about a cup of ice in martini shaker:
> >
> > four oz of prime citrus vodka, like absolut or grey goose
> > one to two oz cointreau
> > *POM* pomegranate juice, to fill shaker
> >
> > makes two martinis, pour into chilled martini glasses and add:
> >
> > squeeze of lime or lemon
> > pomegranate fruit for bottom of glass (optional decor)
> >
> > this is the best martini i have ever had! myraide
> >
>
> No matter how good, this is NOT A MARTINI! Putting some weird
> concoction in a martini glass does not make it a martini. A martini

is

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Quoted message said:

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> gin and vermouth.

uh oh....... i better ask oprah and rachel ray about this, then......
🙂 myraide

Well, someone needs to set them straight. It might as well be you. :-)

what would this drink be called then? i mean there are all different
kinds of wine, why can't there be different kinds of martinis? myraide

Take a look at any bar book and you'll see that there are hundreds of
unique names to define drinks that were once new inventions. If bartenders
and drink promoters of those generations had been as stupid as those of the
current, they'd all have been called martinis, or mabe manhattans. The
best they seem to be able to do today is capitalize on the glass that a
real martini is served in. What a lot of [censored]!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

Myraide said:

what would this drink be called then?

A cocktail.

Quoted message said:

i mean there are all different
kinds of wine, why can't there be different kinds of martinis? myraide

A martini is made with gin. It is traditionally gin and vermouth,
garnished with olives. Anything else is a poser.
-L.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Wayne Boatwright said:

Interesting drink. NOT a martini.

Yup. These days, restaurants and bars use "martini" in the name of any
drink served in a martini glass. It's not correct, but not worth
getting your panties bunched up, either.

I recently had a "crushed kumquat martini" at The Tamarind Tree, a fine
Vietnamese restaurant here in Seattle. Exquisitely tasty, even if it's
not the traditional formula. So far, the best real martini that I've
found in Seattle was served at the Sand Point Grill.

--
Julian Vrieslander

Myraide said:

uh oh....... i better ask oprah and rachel ray about this, then......
🙂 myraide

LOL They are diehards. Both of us know if it's served in a martini
glass, it's a martini.

🙂
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

Myraide said:

uh oh....... i better ask oprah and rachel ray about this, then......
🙂 myraide

LOL They are diehards. Both of us know if it's served in a martini
glass, it's a martini.

🙂
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

Myraide said:

what would this drink be called then? i mean there are all different
kinds of wine, why can't there be different kinds of martinis? myraide

Just another frou frou drink that probably tastes good, but it surely
isn't a martini. How can you justify calling it a martini when nothing
in it has anything to do with a classic martini?
Don't buy into "dumbing" down.. you end up with Sandra Lee if you go too
far.

Myraide said:

what would this drink be called then? i mean there are all different
kinds of wine, why can't there be different kinds of martinis? myraide

Just another frou frou drink that probably tastes good, but it surely
isn't a martini. How can you justify calling it a martini when nothing
in it has anything to do with a classic martini?
Don't buy into "dumbing" down.. you end up with Sandra Lee if you go too
far.

Julian Vrieslander said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Wayne Boatwright said:

Interesting drink. NOT a martini.

Yup. These days, restaurants and bars use "martini" in the name of any
drink served in a martini glass. It's not correct, but not worth
getting your panties bunched up, either.

Somebody has to stand up for the integrity of the martini; don't
bastardize a classic American cultural icon.
-L.

On Tue 29 Nov 2005 12:47:08a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it -L.?

Quoted message said:

Julian Vrieslander said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Wayne Boatwright said:

Interesting drink. NOT a martini.

Yup. These days, restaurants and bars use "martini" in the name of any
drink served in a martini glass. It's not correct, but not worth
getting your panties bunched up, either.

Somebody has to stand up for the integrity of the martini; don't
bastardize a classic American cultural icon.
-L.

Exactly!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

I'm more interested in words and word origins and the way word meanings
change over time than I am in mixed drinks. I don't like corrupting the
meaning of martini either. Now I'm wondering if changing it to mean any
mixed drink came from advertisers and liquor salespeople in the U.S. or
if it is an import from overseas. Conjecture: Maybe people in Asia and
Europe saw American movies where the tourists and servicemen drank
martinis, and not knowing exactly what was meant, spun off with the
definition.

--Lia