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  1. My son is shopping for a college to attend. Some years ago I visited
    my brother at Brigham Young University and was astounded to see dozens of
    bikes rusting at a rack in mid-winter because the school has a rool
    against taking them inside the dorms. (Supposedly it's a fire hazard.)
    I'm wondering if we should be thinking beater bike for my son in case he
    ends up at a school with similar rules.
    Anyone else care to comment on rules regarding the use and storage of
    bicycles at their alma mater?

    Bill

    __o | The American fascist would prefer not to use violence.
    _`\(,_ | His method is to poison the channels of public information
    (_)/ (_) | --Henry A. Wallace

  2. Quoted message said:

    My son is shopping for a college to attend. Some years ago I visited
    my brother at Brigham Young University and was astounded to see dozens of
    bikes rusting at a rack in mid-winter because the school has a rool
    against taking them inside the dorms. (Supposedly it's a fire hazard.)

    If there's no room for them inside the dorms, such that they'd
    get in the way during an evacuation, I could believe that.
    Otherwise, it just sounds like a pretext that some administrator
    would claim because he doesn't like bikes inside the dorms.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if we should be thinking beater bike for my son in case he
    ends up at a school with similar rules.
    Anyone else care to comment on rules regarding the use and storage of
    bicycles at their alma mater?

    We had no such rules at Michigan State. In fact there were bike
    storage rooms inside the dorm that I lived in, where your bike
    could be kept dry, warm, and safe from the elements.
    --
    "Premature optimization is the root of all evil."
    --D. E. Knuth, "Structured Programming with go to Statements"


  3. Quoted message said:

    My son is shopping for a college to attend. Some years ago I visited
    my brother at Brigham Young University and was astounded to see dozens of
    bikes rusting at a rack in mid-winter because the school has a rool
    against taking them inside the dorms. (Supposedly it's a fire hazard.)
    I'm wondering if we should be thinking beater bike for my son in case he
    ends up at a school with similar rules.
    Anyone else care to comment on rules regarding the use and storage of
    bicycles at their alma mater?

    Bill

    They have a rool? Kool!

  4. Bill said:

    My son is shopping for a college to attend. Some years ago I visited
    my brother at Brigham Young University and was astounded to see dozens of
    bikes rusting at a rack in mid-winter because the school has a rool
    against taking them inside the dorms. (Supposedly it's a fire hazard.)

    Reminds me of an upper-level manager I had a while back... He banned
    bicycles from the office, claiming that the "petroleum products" (grease)
    in the "metal cylinders" (hubs, bottom brackets) would be an explosive
    hazard during a fire. Reasoning with him was futile; he basically didn't
    like bikes but wouldn't just come out and say so.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if we should be thinking beater bike for my son in case he
    ends up at a school with similar rules.

    The guys I knew in college who had nice bikes kept them in their rooms
    (usually suspended from the ceiling). They also had beater bikes that they
    rode to class. Even if there's room to store a nice bike in the dorm,
    you'll be stuck locking it up outside once you get to class. For that, you
    want something indestructible that won't attract a thief's attention.
    --
    Darin McGrew, [email hidden], http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/

    "The quickest way to double your money is to fold it
    and put it back in your pocket." - Will Rogers

  5. Get a nice folding bicycle with bag. Dahon is the most popular among
    the Chicago Folding Bicycle Society. Folds in 45 seconds, then bag it
    and take it in. Hang in closet or beside your classroom seat.

    Quoted message said:

    My son is shopping for a college to attend. Some years ago I visited
    my brother at Brigham Young University and was astounded to see dozens of
    bikes rusting at a rack in mid-winter because the school has a rool
    against taking them inside the dorms. (Supposedly it's a fire hazard.)
    I'm wondering if we should be thinking beater bike for my son in case he
    ends up at a school with similar rules.
    Anyone else care to comment on rules regarding the use and storage of
    bicycles at their alma mater?

    Bill

    __o | The American fascist would prefer not to use violence.
    _`\(,_ | His method is to poison the channels of public information
    (_)/ (_) | --Henry A. Wallace

  6. "Mike A Schwab"> wrote > Get a nice folding bicycle with bag. Dahon is the
    most popular among

    Quoted message said:

    the Chicago Folding Bicycle Society. Folds in 45 seconds, then bag it
    and take it in. Hang in closet or beside your classroom seat.

    This would work only if the son was immune to peer pressure--unlikely in an
    18 year old male.
    I bought a Bike Friday 2 years ago and am still getting stares and comments
    when I ride it...and I am not on a college campus (nor do I care about
    "fitting in" or "being cool"😉.

  7. "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Mike A Schwab"> wrote > Get a nice folding bicycle with bag. Dahon is
    the most popular among

    Quoted message said:

    the Chicago Folding Bicycle Society. Folds in 45 seconds, then bag it
    and take it in. Hang in closet or beside your classroom seat.

    This would work only if the son was immune to peer pressure--unlikely in
    an 18 year old male.
    I bought a Bike Friday 2 years ago and am still getting stares and
    comments when I ride it...and I am not on a college campus (nor do I care
    about "fitting in" or "being cool"😉.

    Gals dig a folder.


  8. Quoted message said:


    Gals dig a folder.

    Assuming you are talking about bicycles.....tell us more.

    Quoted message said:


  9. Quoted message said:

    My son is shopping for a college to attend. Some years ago I visited
    my brother at Brigham Young University and was astounded to see dozens of
    bikes rusting at a rack in mid-winter because the school has a rool
    against taking them inside the dorms. (Supposedly it's a fire hazard.)
    I'm wondering if we should be thinking beater bike for my son in case he
    ends up at a school with similar rules.
    Anyone else care to comment on rules regarding the use and storage of
    bicycles at their alma mater?

    I managed to park my Bianchi outside for about 7 years without any
    problems (This was at home though). A little weather is not going to
    do much if any damage[1]. You probably were seeing cheap beater bikes
    that students, who knew nothing about bikes, had bought at the Utah
    equivalent of Canadian Tire or Wal-Mart or, else, picked up cheaply
    second hand.

    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

    1. Apply oil to chain at least once a year 🙂

  10. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    My son is shopping for a college to attend. Some years ago I visited
    my brother at Brigham Young University and was astounded to see dozens of
    bikes rusting at a rack in mid-winter because the school has a rool
    against taking them inside the dorms. (Supposedly it's a fire hazard.)
    I'm wondering if we should be thinking beater bike for my son in case he
    ends up at a school with similar rules.
    Anyone else care to comment on rules regarding the use and storage of
    bicycles at their alma mater?


    A beater's not a bad idea, regardless. Here's my daughter's experience at a
    small liberal arts college:

    Freshman year, old junky Roadmaster: bike semi-stripped while parked
    outside.
    Sophomore year, used pink Specialized Crossroads bought for $40: Stolen off
    locked porch (it was a screen porch)
    Senior year: Old Schwinn Breeze, acquired for free out of friend's basement,
    stolen out of dorm bike room.
    Surviving: Schwinn Caliente, bright lime green, from the 1970's.

    My other daughter took a new Giant Sedona to a different campus, and after 3
    years she's still got it. The Sedona's a modest bike, but worth more than
    all her older sister's models put together.

    So, it's a risk. A beater lowers the cost of taking that risk.

  11. Mike Kruger said:

    A beater's not a bad idea, regardless. Here's my daughter's experience at a
    small liberal arts college:

    Freshman year, old junky Roadmaster: bike semi-stripped while parked
    outside.
    Sophomore year, used pink Specialized Crossroads bought for $40: Stolen off
    locked porch (it was a screen porch)
    Senior year: Old Schwinn Breeze, acquired for free out of friend's basement,
    stolen out of dorm bike room.
    Surviving: Schwinn Caliente, bright lime green, from the 1970's.

    My other daughter took a new Giant Sedona to a different campus, and after 3
    years she's still got it. The Sedona's a modest bike, but worth more than
    all her older sister's models put together.

    So, it's a risk. A beater lowers the cost of taking that risk.

    Indeed. Here at GA Tech it goes in cycles. When I first got here,
    there were QR'd front wheels and popped cables on every rack. Nowadays,
    you rarely here about bikes being stolen. Oddly enough, those that are
    stolen tend to be the Xmart bikes since those folks are the type to
    think locking the front wheel or a fork blade(!!!) is sufficient. All
    of the nice bikes seem to hang around these days.

  12. Darin McGrew said:

    Reminds me of an upper-level manager I had a while back... He banned
    bicycles from the office, claiming that the "petroleum products" (grease)
    in the "metal cylinders" (hubs, bottom brackets) would be an explosive
    hazard during a fire. Reasoning with him was futile; he basically didn't
    like bikes but wouldn't just come out and say so.

    What did he do about office chairs with oil-filled shocks and/or
    lubricateed swivels?

  13. I said:
    Quoted message said:

    Reminds me of an upper-level manager I had a while back... He banned
    bicycles from the office, claiming that the "petroleum products" (grease)
    in the "metal cylinders" (hubs, bottom brackets) would be an explosive
    hazard during a fire. Reasoning with him was futile; he basically didn't
    like bikes but wouldn't just come out and say so.

    Brian Huntley said:

    What did he do about office chairs with oil-filled shocks and/or
    lubricateed swivels?

    Not to mention all the other office hazards. Comparing the warnings (or
    lack thereof) on a tube of bicycle grease with the warnings on the products
    in the supply cabinet was interesting, but completely beside the point.

    He had an assortment of weak (and sometimes humorous) excuses like this
    one, but reasoning with him about the excuses didn't change the underlying
    issue: he just didn't want bikes in the office.
    --
    Darin McGrew, [email hidden], http://www.rahul.net/mcgrew/
    Web Design Group, [email hidden], http://www.HTMLHelp.com/

    "Adventure is nothing but a romantic name for trouble." - Louis L'Amour

  14. Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if we should be thinking beater bike for my son in case he
    ends up at a school with similar rules.
    Anyone else care to comment on rules regarding the use and storage of
    bicycles at their alma mater?

    I went to a small local university branch and never had much of a
    problem in an area with 100 inches of rain per year since the
    buildings had covered walkways with railings. I'm sure that the
    rules are tighter now that they've added more buildings, but some
    racks are at least under a roof.

    I would suggest that you not worry about the bike storage rules
    as a criterion for considering the school. There are several
    companies that make bike lockers that can be bolted to the
    concrete or a building. see http://huntco.com/bikepod/ for
    example of a personal locker for 1 bike. perhaps your son could
    buy one and install it near his dorm door.

    the biggest problem with getting kids to ride bikes to high
    school here is that too many of them have expensive full
    suspension konas and cannondales, and don't want to lock them in
    an open rack because they fear vandalism, something that goes
    away when lockers are used.

  15. Dennis P. Harris said:

    the biggest problem with getting kids to ride bikes to high
    school here is that too many of them have expensive full
    suspension konas and cannondales, and don't want to lock them in
    an open rack because they fear vandalism, something that goes
    away when lockers are used.

    One day last week my son's bike had a flat so he took my brand-new road
    bike to school. When he informed my by text message, I replied, "Thx, I
    needed something to worry about all day." And I did.

    Bill

    __o | Better a cruel truth than a comfortable delusion.
    _`\(,_ |
    (_)/ (_) | --Edward Abbey

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